Front End Back End Problems

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We have an Access db that we have been using for several
years. Recently we are having problems with the users
locking each other out of the tables. The problem is not
consistently there making it difficult to trace down a
cause. Can anyone suggest what I might need to be looking
for?

Prior to middle of last summer we did not have this
problem. Even then it was not a frequent thing but now is
most of the time. We basicly have 2 to 5 people on the
front ends at any one time. We could have as many as 10.

Thanks,
Steven C
 
Each user has there own front end. The primary (daily)
data is stored in a back end data base. Reference data is
stored in a second back end data base (Updated annually).
The problem started after some computers crashed with a
virus last summer and were taken in by our IT dept. and
reformated. It seem to straighten out for all computers
except one. She could not work the same time anyone else
was on this application. Then we upgrade a computer and
moved the replacement over to an office that had an even
older computer. This is when it really got serious and
will most of the time only let one person at a time in.
IT people and I have both been searching for what changed
but have not found it. It is not consistent in what it
does. Sometimes when we are trying to chase it down we can
have everyone in there frontends working find with no
lockouts. Can't ever figure out why the difference
between when it works and when it doesn't. (I hope we
find it before I become bald from pulling out my hair.)
Thanks for the lead.
Steven
 
Hi Steven,

I'm sure you've got this covered. I would also check and be sure that
everyone has all rights (read, write, delete, modify) on the folder where
the database is. And noone is actually opening the database exclusively. You
can also sort of "watch" the .ldb file and observe its behavior and make
sure it behaves as expected.

For example, if noone is logged on to the database, there should never be an
..ldb file. The first user gets on, an .ldb file has to be created. If one
user gets on and no .ldb file is created, then that user has the database
open exclusively.


HTH,
Immanuel Sibero
 
Hi Immanuel,
Thanks for the suggestions. I have already done most of
this. I am sure the problem is isolated to one
workstation causing it. I just can't figure out what is
different on it. The front ends are copies from an
original that is stored on the server. All the other
workstations seem to work together fine. I have a
temporary fix in that I have one of our laptops operating
in place of the workstation that is causing the problem.
Everybody is recognized as admin and this is using the
default workgroup that comes with Access.

Is it possible that this one work station may have a
different default workgroup. If so how do I check it or
replace it with one from the others.
Steven
 
Hi Steven,

The workgroup file is system.mdw. There may be multiple system.mdw on a
machine. To find out which one is being used in an Access session, pull up
VBA Editor (Ctrl-G) and the Immediate Window, type in:

? Application.DBEngine.SystemDB

This will tell you the location of the system.mdw in effect. You can copy
the default system.mdw from another machine since they are all identical.

HTH,
Immanuel Sibero
 
Hi Immanuel,
I gave this idea of updating the system.mdw file a try and
it did not help. I have narrowed down the problem to
being caused by four of our departments 12 computers.
Each of this have been setup or resetup since the middle
part of last summer by our IT Dept. all others were
updated to Windows 2000 about a year before that. Only
these four cause the lockouts to happen. The others can
work at the same time without problems. I have also
discovered it is affecting all of our split databases,
which is basicly all of our current databases. The front
ends are all located on local workstation drives and the
back ends are all on the same server. I have had IT check
out the server and there is no reported problems with it.

Thanks for all of your help.
Steven
 
In addition to this, I have discovered that these four
computers will open Excel Files that are already open by
other workstations without any warnings or "Read Only"
options. I have been keeping our IT person who is also
working on this informed on my discoveries as well. He is
not trying to search into the OS to find out what could be
giving these four computers such control privileges.
Thanks,
Steven
-----Original Message-----
Hi Immanuel,
I gave this idea of updating the system.mdw file a try and
it did not help. I have narrowed down the problem to
being caused by four of our departments 12 computers.
Each of this have been setup or resetup since the middle
part of last summer by our IT Dept. all others were
updated to Windows 2000 about a year before that. Only
these four cause the lockouts to happen. The others can
work at the same time without problems. I have also
discovered it is affecting all of our split databases,
which is basicly all of our current databases. The front
ends are all located on local workstation drives and the
back ends are all on the same server. I have had IT check
out the server and there is no reported problems with it.

Thanks for all of your help.
Steven
-----Original Message-----

Hi Steven,

The workgroup file is system.mdw. There may be multiple system.mdw on a
machine. To find out which one is being used in an
Access
session, pull up
VBA Editor (Ctrl-G) and the Immediate Window, type in:

? Application.DBEngine.SystemDB

This will tell you the location of the system.mdw in effect. You can copy
the default system.mdw from another machine since they are all identical.

HTH,
Immanuel Sibero
 
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