"Free trials" at webattack.com

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I found this humorous...


"IconCool Editor
IconCool Editor is a powerful icon editor to edit icons, cursors and
web graphics. It comes with all the functions for creating and editing
ICO, CUR, ... [more]

Free Trial Rating: *****"


They are so desperate to use the word FREE in their advertising of
software that they will even use it in situations where it really
doesn't make any sense. It seems reasonable that nobody would be
willing to pay for a trial so why wouln't it be free?

dos-man
 
I had this site, along with a couple others, submitted to my site for
inclusion several months ago..... took one look, saw it wasn't freeware, so
said nope......

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Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)
 
(e-mail address removed) (Dos-Man):
Re: "Free trials" at webattack.com

I found this humorous...

"IconCool Editor
IconCool Editor is a powerful icon editor to edit icons, cursors and
web graphics. It comes with all the functions for creating and editing
ICO, CUR, ... [more]

Free Trial Rating: *****"


They are so desperate to use the word FREE in their advertising of
software that they will even use it in situations where it really
doesn't make any sense. It seems reasonable that nobody would be
willing to pay for a trial so why wouln't it be free?

It's typical to mis-use the word free. Comes long before computers. If you
ever watch TV, without protection of something like a TIVO, you'll find
they holler and screech "free" at you all over the place there, too. Really,
advertising in general, whatever medium, whatever product, hooks constantly
on "FREE (muted smallprint: trial)."

You did not give a URL. If WebAttack has this listed in its freeware
section, you have discovered a problem. Their design is to include as
freeware: only freeware; plus adware (the latter identified as adware).
Not talking about the page ads etc -- but their actual freeware listings.

You're not saying that "Free Trial" thing was under Webattack's freeware
listings?
 
omega said:
(e-mail address removed) (Dos-Man):
Re: "Free trials" at webattack.com

I found this humorous...

"IconCool Editor
IconCool Editor is a powerful icon editor to edit icons, cursors and
web graphics. It comes with all the functions for creating and editing
ICO, CUR, ... [more]

Free Trial Rating: *****"


They are so desperate to use the word FREE in their advertising of
software that they will even use it in situations where it really
doesn't make any sense. It seems reasonable that nobody would be
willing to pay for a trial so why wouln't it be free?

It's typical to mis-use the word free. Comes long before computers. If you
ever watch TV, without protection of something like a TIVO, you'll find
they holler and screech "free" at you all over the place there, too. Really,
advertising in general, whatever medium, whatever product, hooks constantly
on "FREE (muted smallprint: trial)."

You did not give a URL. If WebAttack has this listed in its freeware
section, you have discovered a problem. Their design is to include as
freeware: only freeware; plus adware (the latter identified as adware).
Not talking about the page ads etc -- but their actual freeware listings.

You're not saying that "Free Trial" thing was under Webattack's freeware
listings?

http://www.webattack.com/freeware/gmm/fwicontools.html

Right at the top of the listings.......

Actual program listing:
http://www.webattack.com/features/iconcooleditor-803-410704.php

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Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)
 
Steven Burn said:

: License: Shareware
: Price: $19.95
Right at the top of the listings.......

Actual program listing:
http://www.webattack.com/features/iconcooleditor-803-410704.php

: featured download
: IconCool Editor IconCool Editor

It's not part of the freeware listings, not formatted out as part of that
list. It's at the top, as an advertsisement. Same as with some other sites,
like NoNags.

I don't see it as deceptive. I don't see it as pure, of course, to do it
that way. Sort of a fine line. I admit that they deliberately didn't put
anywhere in that advertisement that it is a shareware product. I wonder if
WebAttack gets paid when we click that particular link, even if we don't go
further than that step, having next seen the payware status.
 
[Repost. I'd messed up quoting which from which on the web pages]

Steven Burn said:

: featured download
: IconCool Editor IconCool Editor


: License: Shareware
: Price: $19.95


It's not part of the freeware listings, not formatted out as part of that
list. It's at the top, as an advertisement. Same as with some other sites,
like NoNags.

I don't see it as deceptive. I don't see it as pure, of course, to do it
that way. Sort of a fine line. I admit that they deliberately didn't put
anywhere in that advertisement that it is a shareware product. I wonder if
WebAttack gets paid when we click that particular link, even if we don't go
further than that step, having next seen the payware status.

.. . .

Additional comment. That small commercially-motivated ploy really doesn't
bother me. That which I /would/ like to see changed in WebAttack is that
they don't have spyware & adware at all in their freeware listings. Even
though those products are marked, it's still a hassle to have to stare down
that part of things. Much adware is malware in that it causes errors and
damage to your system performance. I'd like if WebAttack's freeware listings
didn't mix together, as they do, the nasty with the good.
 
omega said:
[Repost. I'd messed up quoting which from which on the web pages]


: featured download
: IconCool Editor IconCool Editor




: License: Shareware
: Price: $19.95


It's not part of the freeware listings, not formatted out as part of that
list. It's at the top, as an advertisement. Same as with some other sites,
like NoNags.

I don't see it as deceptive. I don't see it as pure, of course, to do it
that way. Sort of a fine line. I admit that they deliberately didn't put
anywhere in that advertisement that it is a shareware product. I wonder if
WebAttack gets paid when we click that particular link, even if we don't go
further than that step, having next seen the payware status.

. . .

Additional comment. That small commercially-motivated ploy really doesn't
bother me. That which I /would/ like to see changed in WebAttack is that
they don't have spyware & adware at all in their freeware listings. Even
though those products are marked, it's still a hassle to have to stare down
that part of things. Much adware is malware in that it causes errors and
damage to your system performance. I'd like if WebAttack's freeware listings
didn't mix together, as they do, the nasty with the good.
Theres no deception on WebAttack. I've been downloading from WebAttack
for a long time and I've never been or felt like I've been misled.
I think it in the top 3 of freeware sites.
 
Theres no deception on WebAttack. I've been downloading from WebAttack
for a long time and I've never been or felt like I've been misled.
I think it in the top 3 of freeware sites.

I don't personally see it as deception. I do find it rather annoying
however, that they'd advertise shareware so blatantly in what is supposed to
be a freeware area.

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)
 
Theres no deception on WebAttack. I've been downloading from WebAttack
for a long time and I've never been or felt like I've been misled.
I think it in the top 3 of freeware sites.

This seems to equate "I feel safe" with "I am safe".

Eg, "There is nothing wrong with gator; I've been using gator
a long time and I've never felt like I'm being attacked."

I commonly hear this as a critique of the U.S. in general, that
they confuse the feeling of security with actually being secure,
and so they spend a lot of money on expensive gadgets, such as
airport searches, so as to be visually reassured that something
expensive is happening, so as to feel safe.
 
wmf said:
This seems to equate "I feel safe" with "I am safe".

Eg, "There is nothing wrong with gator; I've been using gator
a long time and I've never felt like I'm being attacked."

I commonly hear this as a critique of the U.S. in general, that
they confuse the feeling of security with actually being secure,
and so they spend a lot of money on expensive gadgets, such as
airport searches, so as to be visually reassured that something
expensive is happening, so as to feel safe.
Apples and Oranges
 
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