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for Windows?

Hamster is a local server for news and mail. It's a
windows-32-bit-program. It allows the use of multiple news- and
mailserver and combines them to one mail- and newsserver for the
news/mail-client. It load faster than a normal newsreader because many
threads can run simultaneous. It contains scorefile for news and mail, a
build-in script language, the GUI allows translation to other languages,
it can be used in a network and that's not all

http://www.tglsoft.de/misc/hamster_en.htm

I found it from Pricelessware:
http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/PL2004INTERNET.htm#A375
 
Mark Carter said:
Hamster is a local server for news and mail. It's a
windows-32-bit-program. It allows the use of multiple news- and
mailserver and combines them to one mail- and newsserver for the
news/mail-client. It load faster than a normal newsreader because many
threads can run simultaneous. It contains scorefile for news and mail, a
build-in script language, the GUI allows translation to other languages,
it can be used in a network and that's not all

http://www.tglsoft.de/misc/hamster_en.htm

I found it from Pricelessware:
http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/PL2004INTERNET.htm#A375
Cool!
 
...and it hijacks your account data.

No, it doesn't. You thought it would store users' passwords and make
them available for retrieval by you; it shouldn't do that, and it
doesn't.
 
IOW...you enter your data...you don't get it back...you can't export it so
that you can move your accounts to a different news server. It doesn't
matter how you word it. You CANNOT get your account data out for moving the
accounts to a different news server. If you have a method of exporting the
data I'd surely be interested in hearing about it.
 
Ceg said:
IOW...you enter your data...you don't get it back...you can't
export it

Yes, exactly the way passwords should be handled. A one-way hash would
be best; I'm not sure whether that's what Hamster does or not.
It doesn't matter how you word it.

It matters if you misleadingly refer to it as "hijacking" data, as
though it were doing something wrong. You might just as easily claim
that Linux systems "hijack" users' login passwords.
 
I guess that would be down to your interpretation of the word "hijack".
Good or bad, right or wrong it still comes down to the fact that you can't
export your account data for the purposes of moving your accounts to a
different news server. What part of that is incorrect???
 
Ceg said:
I guess that would be down to your interpretation of the word "hijack".
Good or bad, right or wrong it still comes down to the fact that you can't
export your account data for the purposes of moving your accounts to a
different news server. What part of that is incorrect???

Dunno; it is years since I used Hamster. I do know that it is
extremely highly regarded.
Did you ever take your problem to the Hamster specialists? There are
mailing lists and ng's...
 
Ceg said:
I guess that would be down to your interpretation of the word
"hijack".

All definitions of that word include such things as "to steal", "to
rob", "to seize by force". It's clearly not appropriate here. If
you had the passwords, you lost them when you discarded them, not
because they were stolen from you or seized.
Good or bad, right or wrong it still comes down to the
fact that you can't export your account data for the purposes of
moving your accounts to a different news server.

Your users' passwords cannot be exported. There was no reason for
you to expect Hamster to store those passwords, let alone allow them
to be exported as cleartext.
What part of that is incorrect???

The part about hijacking, as well as the implication that your
users's passwords are "your" data.

I'll let it go until the next thread about Hamster I notice you
posting misinformation in. HAND.
 
Dunno; it is years since I used Hamster. I do know that it is
extremely highly regarded.
Did you ever take your problem to the Hamster specialists? There
are mailing lists and ng's...

He did, a couple of years ago. From them he got the correct answer
that the users' passwords could not be exported as cleartext, and has
been referring to it as "hijacking" data ever since.
 
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