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I have 3 pc's in front of me...
3 monitors

it all flows from left to right.


On my far left is os XP
in the middle is Y2K
on the right is Y2K (my very very cool server..has 4 processors and 5
HD)


The far left pc has 2 ethernet cards.
The middle pc has 2 ethernet cards.
The last pc, has one ethernet card


The left pc has ICS turned on, I DO get internet on the middle
machine...
so that's two machines on the internet...


I have tried all evening to get the 3rd pc on the internet...


I am not allowed to use ICS on the middle machine because it creates an

IP conflict with the first machine.. 192.168.1.1


How can I jump the 3rd machine onto the internet..


another very cool thing...All 3 machines are in the same workgroup, all

3 machines can see each other...(in case that is of signifigance)


I don't have a hub or router...(I know this is ideal and I am going to
get one soon)
but can't I just assign and IP for the 3rd machine


looks like


PC 1 = Internet Source
PC 1 = ICS enabled


PC 2 = Does get on the internet just fine
PC 2 = Will not let me share second card here...IP conflict with first
machine


PC3 = Is on the network, but not on the internet (yet)


Thanks - good luck
 
wait min...

the 3rd machine can't see the first...
but! the middle machine can see both

i think I must address a subnet?


this post is an addition to the OP under this thread.
 
Systemrecovery said:
I have 3 pc's in front of me...
3 monitors

it all flows from left to right.


On my far left is os XP
in the middle is Y2K
on the right is Y2K (my very very cool server..has 4 processors and 5
HD)


The far left pc has 2 ethernet cards.
The middle pc has 2 ethernet cards.
The last pc, has one ethernet card


The left pc has ICS turned on, I DO get internet on the middle
machine...
so that's two machines on the internet...


I have tried all evening to get the 3rd pc on the internet...


I am not allowed to use ICS on the middle machine because it creates an

IP conflict with the first machine.. 192.168.1.1


How can I jump the 3rd machine onto the internet..


another very cool thing...All 3 machines are in the same workgroup, all

3 machines can see each other...(in case that is of signifigance)


I don't have a hub or router...(I know this is ideal and I am going to
get one soon)
but can't I just assign and IP for the 3rd machine


looks like


PC 1 = Internet Source
PC 1 = ICS enabled


PC 2 = Does get on the internet just fine
PC 2 = Will not let me share second card here...IP conflict with first
machine


PC3 = Is on the network, but not on the internet (yet)


Thanks - good luck
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Get a switch. Or among other things, you could disable ICS on the XP
machine; remove one adapter from the middle machine and install it in the XP
machine; bridge the internal connections; enable ICS on the XP machine's
external adapter:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309640/en-us

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
It can be done.
probably the easist way to go would be route.exe to add ststic routes
and effectively make the mddle machine a router.
Or you could take a NIC and add it to the server and install RAS.
 
It can be done easier than that. You'll need to assign IP addresses
statically, though. ICS changes the IP address of the "LAN" NIC to
192.168.0.1, but you don't have to leave it. Once ICS is enabled and
running, you change the LAN-side IP address to whatever you want. So, here
goes:

Computer 1:
enable ICS
change LAN IP address to 192.168.3.1 / 255.255.255.0
leave LAN default gateway blank
Set DNS to your ISP's DNS server(s)

Computer 2:
Enable ICS
Change WAN (Not LAN) IP address to 192.168.3.2 255.255.255.0
Default gateway 192.168.3.1
DNS as above

Change LAN IP address to 192.168.2.1 / 255.255.255.0
No default Gateway
DNS as above

Computer 3
Set IP address to 192.168.2.2 / 255.255.255.0
Default gateway 192.168.2.1
DNS like the rest

You're done!

You'll have to forward ports to go backward through the ICS NAT service, so
this is for Internet Only, really
If you want a LAN and Internet, buy a switch.

....kurt
 
Kurt said:
You're done!
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well cool! it worked just fine, i am posting from the final machine in
the series

interestingly

I can share files in either direction from the middle, but not the ends

no biggie...i can just bounce them off the middle pc... :)

when I need to..it's not that big of a deal

Thanks a millions
 
Unless firewalls are blocking it, Computer 3 should be able to access shares
on Computer 1: Start/Run \\192.168.3.1 ENTER.

Computer 1 will not be able to access shares on Computer 3.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
Doug said:
Unless firewalls are blocking it, Computer 3 should be able to access shares
on Computer 1: Start/Run \\192.168.3.1 ENTER.
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Yeah, thanks, that worked out real nice

i feel like a dog chasing a car, now that I have it, im not sure what
to do with it...
heh heh

maybe Ill just transfer some chunks around and check some speeds...

thanks
 
Kurt said:
Computer 1:
enable ICS
change LAN IP address to 192.168.3.1 / 255.255.255.0
leave LAN default gateway blank
Set DNS to your ISP's DNS server(s)

Computer 2:
Enable ICS
Change WAN (Not LAN) IP address to 192.168.3.2 255.255.255.0
Default gateway 192.168.3.1
DNS as above

Change LAN IP address to 192.168.2.1 / 255.255.255.0
No default Gateway
DNS as above

Computer 3
Set IP address to 192.168.2.2 / 255.255.255.0
Default gateway 192.168.2.1
DNS like the rest

You're done!
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Thanks again bud, I can't tell you how many times I have referenced
this ezpea-z waytogo.

I had to jog a few numbers for pc one and two...
seems both machine one and two have ghost adapter that is using the
numbers you provided. but the last two adapters figuration remain the
same...so long as it's working im happy...my switch still hasn't got
here..so much for 1 day shipping. whew.

yeah, i have ghost adapters now..i think it is a service pack issue...i
chased them away once before (recently..since this post)..im not sure
how I got rid of them, but they happen to be configured with the
numbers I want (im straight right now..)

what happened...with this config...(which is nice)... i was having a
compatibility problem or mobo or adapter...just something kept making
them flicker...

so i swap them around 3 and 4 times..this one here that one
there...till they all play nice together...it seems to be working for
now..

the ghost adapters (who have ip's) (but are not in the network folder)

showed up after I moved all the cards around.

Thanks...later
 
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