FP2004 Photogallery UGH, tried Jalbum per this group

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Trish

I tried the Fp2003 Photogallery but it isn't consistent or I'm
not consistent or at least I couldn't get it to do what I
wanted. I've been scanning and reading this newsgroup
for the past 3 months, trying to learn from the answers
others were getting, ignoring posted item subjects since
a lot of them don't describe the info I find inside.
I saw several referrals to JALBUM, so I downloaded and
tried it. Kudos for those of you who recommended it. It
seems to do exactly what I want except for 'how to get
captions' on the pictures? I tried the JALBUM.com to see
if there was a users newsgroup that I could maybe find
out how to put captions for each picture without luck.
Can anyone recommend some site where I could find
this answer or if this is even possible?
Thank you for any help.
 
Some of the JAlbum skins have the ability to add captions some dont...sorry
don't remember which ones...but there are previews of all skins, you'll have
to grub around and look.



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Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage





|I tried the Fp2003 Photogallery but it isn't consistent or I'm
| not consistent or at least I couldn't get it to do what I
| wanted. I've been scanning and reading this newsgroup
| for the past 3 months, trying to learn from the answers
| others were getting, ignoring posted item subjects since
| a lot of them don't describe the info I find inside.
| I saw several referrals to JALBUM, so I downloaded and
| tried it. Kudos for those of you who recommended it. It
| seems to do exactly what I want except for 'how to get
| captions' on the pictures? I tried the JALBUM.com to see
| if there was a users newsgroup that I could maybe find
| out how to put captions for each picture without luck.
| Can anyone recommend some site where I could find
| this answer or if this is even possible?
| Thank you for any help.
 
Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Some of the JAlbum skins have the ability to add captions some
dont...sorry
don't remember which ones...but there are previews of all skins, you'll
have
to grub around and look.
Click to expand...

Interesting,

As for the OP, I have the same problem with JAlbum.

I have used it on a club website, with the default skin. When/if I were to
find the skin with captions, it will need a bit of redoing.

So. I may have to look further.

Trish, if you find out first please post back. I'll do the same
 
I tried the Fp2003 Photogallery but it isn't consistent or I'm
not consistent or at least I couldn't get it to do what I
wanted. I've been scanning and reading this newsgroup
for the past 3 months, trying to learn from the answers
others were getting, ignoring posted item subjects since
a lot of them don't describe the info I find inside.
I saw several referrals to JALBUM, so I downloaded and
tried it. Kudos for those of you who recommended it. It
seems to do exactly what I want except for 'how to get
captions' on the pictures? I tried the JALBUM.com to see
if there was a users newsgroup that I could maybe find
out how to put captions for each picture without luck.
Can anyone recommend some site where I could find
this answer or if this is even possible?
Thank you for any help.
Click to expand...

Thank you, Rob and Trevor:
I've been grubbing around and have tried most of the skins.
I'll keep grubbing and if I find an answer will post back.
Just knowing that there is an answer is encouragement to
keep trying. Thanks, again.
 
I think one is Photodawg skin.


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Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage





| On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:49:43 -0600, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
|
| >I tried the Fp2003 Photogallery but it isn't consistent or I'm
| >not consistent or at least I couldn't get it to do what I
| >wanted. I've been scanning and reading this newsgroup
| >for the past 3 months, trying to learn from the answers
| >others were getting, ignoring posted item subjects since
| >a lot of them don't describe the info I find inside.
| >I saw several referrals to JALBUM, so I downloaded and
| >tried it. Kudos for those of you who recommended it. It
| >seems to do exactly what I want except for 'how to get
| >captions' on the pictures? I tried the JALBUM.com to see
| >if there was a users newsgroup that I could maybe find
| >out how to put captions for each picture without luck.
| >Can anyone recommend some site where I could find
| >this answer or if this is even possible?
| >Thank you for any help.
|
| Thank you, Rob and Trevor:
| I've been grubbing around and have tried most of the skins.
| I'll keep grubbing and if I find an answer will post back.
| Just knowing that there is an answer is encouragement to
| keep trying. Thanks, again.
 
I think one is Photodawg skin.
Click to expand...

Thanks, Rob:
Being aware of the possibility (from your prior response)
really helped.... I had started working my way down thru
skins when I saw your last posted response. You gave
me the answer as well as how to find the answer. My
hands don't work well and I very much appreciate both of
your responses.
 
Yer welcome, glad you found it. I'm pretty sure there's others as well.


--

Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage





|
| On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:06:19 -0700, "Rob Giordano \(Crash\)"
|
| >I think one is Photodawg skin.
|
| Thanks, Rob:
| Being aware of the possibility (from your prior response)
| really helped.... I had started working my way down thru
| skins when I saw your last posted response. You gave
| me the answer as well as how to find the answer. My
| hands don't work well and I very much appreciate both of
| your responses.
 
Ditto from here too! I've been headbashing FP gallery for hours trying to
figure out why font changes in descriptions are reset when the album is
re-edited, etc, etc, etc. Grrr.

Only problem I found with JAlbum - and it IS a problem - is that it seems to
require a flash player to work for most of the really cool album formats. And
because it's a 3rd party tool, it just doesn't integrate with FP at all
(themes & so on), unless you hand edit the output (which is actually quite
practical).

But I'm afraid I'm very old-fashioned - I don't want any of my customers to
be forced to download any kind of addon or addin or plugin or plugon or
switchon or dll or library or anything they don't already have in their
browser. For the majority of web-savvy potential customers, I know this isn't
even an issue.

But for a small but significant number of people worldwide, navigating to a
site and being presented with a blank page and a popup or warning that they
must download something to see the site is an instant and permanent loss of
business. I'm not guessing or exaggerating - I've got quantifiable evidence
that about 3% of my potential customers were completely put off by a flash
page I built for one aspect of my site.

It's a pity the FP Gallery tool wasn't better implemented, because it really
is quite simple to design a neat, elegant, useful, and practical gallery tool
that would work with the majority of image formats and paths and so on.

So while JAlbum is useful (and very, very pretty, I must admit!), there are
some drawbacks. Maybe for humungous sites that's not even on the radar, but
for little businesses like mine, we need something simple and that works in
any minimal rendering browser.

Just my $0.02...
 
FYI: IE/Windows XP users already have the flash plug-in installed by default.

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Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================
 
Tom, that's what I thought too - but the first time I built a test album in
JAlbum and tried to view it, I got a "You need to upgrade your browser's
Flash Plugin" message.

And to be honest, JAlbum crashed and burned a lot as I tried to figure out
an album format. I have about 240 fairly large identical format images I
wanted to present, and it had all sorts of problems, including "out of
memory" errors and "file not found" errors. I don't think JA was designed for
x64 systems, so that's my fault, not JAlbums'!
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit
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Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| When you say that you "dont think JA was designed for x64 systems", to
what
| are you referring?
|
| | > Tom, that's what I thought too - but the first time I built a test album
| > in
| > JAlbum and tried to view it, I got a "You need to upgrade your browser's
| > Flash Plugin" message.
| >
| > And to be honest, JAlbum crashed and burned a lot as I tried to figure
out
| > an album format. I have about 240 fairly large identical format images
I
| > wanted to present, and it had all sorts of problems, including "out of
| > memory" errors and "file not found" errors. I don't think JA was
designed
| > for
| > x64 systems, so that's my fault, not JAlbums'!
| > --
| > Data is not Information; Information is not Knowledge; Knowledge is not
| > Wisdom.
| >
| >
| > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| >
| >> FYI: IE/Windows XP users already have the flash plug-in installed by
| >> default.
| >>
| >> --
| >> ==============================================
| >> Thomas A. Rowe
| >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>
| >> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
| >> ==============================================
| >>
| >>
| >> | >> > Ditto from here too! I've been headbashing FP gallery for hours
trying
| >> > to
| >> > figure out why font changes in descriptions are reset when the album
is
| >> > re-edited, etc, etc, etc. Grrr.
| >> >
| >> > Only problem I found with JAlbum - and it IS a problem - is that it
| >> > seems to
| >> > require a flash player to work for most of the really cool album
| >> > formats. And
| >> > because it's a 3rd party tool, it just doesn't integrate with FP at
all
| >> > (themes & so on), unless you hand edit the output (which is actually
| >> > quite
| >> > practical).
| >> >
| >> > But I'm afraid I'm very old-fashioned - I don't want any of my
| >> > customers to
| >> > be forced to download any kind of addon or addin or plugin or plugon
or
| >> > switchon or dll or library or anything they don't already have in
their
| >> > browser. For the majority of web-savvy potential customers, I know
this
| >> > isn't
| >> > even an issue.
| >> >
| >> > But for a small but significant number of people worldwide,
navigating
| >> > to a
| >> > site and being presented with a blank page and a popup or warning
that
| >> > they
| >> > must download something to see the site is an instant and permanent
| >> > loss of
| >> > business. I'm not guessing or exaggerating - I've got quantifiable
| >> > evidence
| >> > that about 3% of my potential customers were completely put off by a
| >> > flash
| >> > page I built for one aspect of my site.
| >> >
| >> > It's a pity the FP Gallery tool wasn't better implemented, because it
| >> > really
| >> > is quite simple to design a neat, elegant, useful, and practical
| >> > gallery tool
| >> > that would work with the majority of image formats and paths and so
on.
| >> >
| >> > So while JAlbum is useful (and very, very pretty, I must admit!),
there
| >> > are
| >> > some drawbacks. Maybe for humungous sites that's not even on the
radar,
| >> > but
| >> > for little businesses like mine, we need something simple and that
| >> > works in
| >> > any minimal rendering browser.
| >> >
| >> > Just my $0.02...
| >> > --
| >> > Data is not Information; Information is not Knowledge; Knowledge is
not
| >> > Wisdom.
| >> >
| >> >
| >> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| >> >
| >> >> Yer welcome, glad you found it. I'm pretty sure there's others as
| >> >> well.
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >> --
| >> >>
| >> >> Rob Giordano
| >> >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >> | >> >> |
| >> >> | On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:06:19 -0700, "Rob Giordano \(Crash\)"
| >> >> |
| >> >> | >I think one is Photodawg skin.
| >> >> |
| >> >> | Thanks, Rob:
| >> >> | Being aware of the possibility (from your prior response)
| >> >> | really helped.... I had started working my way down thru
| >> >> | skins when I saw your last posted response. You gave
| >> >> | me the answer as well as how to find the answer. My
| >> >> | hands don't work well and I very much appreciate both of
| >> >> | your responses.
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
|
|
 
I 'm sorry I wasn't clearer, rfr...

This isn't an issue with JAlbum per se, as I mentioned. It's a 32-bit
application with 32-bit libraries running on an x64 system.

It's actually the java side of JAlbum that seems to be having problems on
this system. JAlbum gets through between 11 and 38 images (out of 211) during
the "Make Album" phase when it runs out of memory
(java.lang.OutOfMemoryError), and I can't do anything in JAlbum when that
happens, I have to kill the process.
It allocates up to about 400M of working memory then stops with the out of
memory error.

Actually, twice JA recovered from the out of memory condition, and I could
re-attempt the album create with fewer images, but it still fell over at
around 380M working set, and that's two times out of a dozen runs trying to
create the album.

To be fair, I'm using fairly large, high-res source images (around 40M per
image), but I'm still not sure why JA doesn't free up the memory used to
import and scale and export each image immediately after it's finished with
the image. I don't want to have to scale down the images manually before
feeding them to JAlbum, that defeats the purpose of using JAlbum in the first
place.

So on my x64 system, with 4G RAM and massive resources free, JA just runs
out of puff.

It doesn't seem to make use of any of the java components on this system,
and that may just be because I didn't download the non-executable version. So
again, it's not a problem with JAlbum, it's a PEBKAC issue.
 
Thanks for the info, Thomas;
As an XP pro, IE user, I wasn't aware that others would
have to addon anything. It makes a difference that I
could not see from my PC. Thank you.
 
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