FP2000 and Win XP Pro

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Bazil

Hello

I author a website using FP2000 on my local harddrive and
publish to an ISP.

I recently moved the disk based website from an old Win
98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the files
from one directory to another using the LAN and windows
explorer)

I would like to be able to edit the disk based website
from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over the
LAN.

When I try to open the website from the Win 98 machine it
says "server timed out".

When I look at the website on the XP machine it says that
a server is not running and I cannot set any security
permissions as they are greyed out.

In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be running,
but there is nothing I can configure.

Can anyone help?

With thanks in advance

B
 
Think it's the way Network connections on Win 98 / XP work
- the timeout is because WinXP first has to open the Network Connection (check for any scheduled tasks on win 98) and then finally
open the web thru the network

Try opening Network Connections and browsing to the Win98 before you open FP
- should cause all that overhead to be over

IMHO - upgrade the Win 98 to Win XP

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"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;

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___________________________________________



| Hello
|
| I author a website using FP2000 on my local harddrive and
| publish to an ISP.
|
| I recently moved the disk based website from an old Win
| 98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the files
| from one directory to another using the LAN and windows
| explorer)
|
| I would like to be able to edit the disk based website
| from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over the
| LAN.
|
| When I try to open the website from the Win 98 machine it
| says "server timed out".
|
| When I look at the website on the XP machine it says that
| a server is not running and I cannot set any security
| permissions as they are greyed out.
|
| In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be running,
| but there is nothing I can configure.
|
| Can anyone help?
|
| With thanks in advance
|
| B
|
 
Thanks, Stefan, for the tip - but it didn't make any
difference. Think it must be to do with the XP disk based
web not being a "server". Presume I need some kind of
Personal Web Server, but can't find out what, or how to
configure.... Will keep looking

BW

B

-----Original Message-----
Think it's the way Network connections on Win 98 / XP work
- the timeout is because WinXP first has to open the
Click to expand...
Network Connection (check for any scheduled tasks on win
98) and then finally
open the web thru the network

Try opening Network Connections and browsing to the Win98 before you open FP
- should cause all that overhead to be over

IMHO - upgrade the Win 98 to Win XP

--
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (- ;

To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
___________________________________________



| Hello
|
| I author a website using FP2000 on my local harddrive and
| publish to an ISP.
|
| I recently moved the disk based website from an old Win
| 98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the files
| from one directory to another using the LAN and windows
| explorer)
|
| I would like to be able to edit the disk based website
| from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over the
| LAN.
|
| When I try to open the website from the Win 98 machine it
| says "server timed out".
|
| When I look at the website on the XP machine it says that
| a server is not running and I cannot set any security
| permissions as they are greyed out.
|
| In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be running,
| but there is nothing I can configure.
|
| Can anyone help?
|
| With thanks in advance
|
| B
|


.
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Think it's more related to NFTS permissions / sharing on Win XP vs Win 98

I have no problems opening a Network Disc Based Webs on machines running Win XP





| Thanks, Stefan, for the tip - but it didn't make any
| difference. Think it must be to do with the XP disk based
| web not being a "server". Presume I need some kind of
| Personal Web Server, but can't find out what, or how to
| configure.... Will keep looking
|
| BW
|
| B
|
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Think it's the way Network connections on Win 98 / XP
| work
| >- the timeout is because WinXP first has to open the
| Network Connection (check for any scheduled tasks on win
| 98) and then finally
| >open the web thru the network
| >
| >Try opening Network Connections and browsing to the
| Win98 before you open FP
| >- should cause all that overhead to be over
| >
| >IMHO - upgrade the Win 98 to Win XP
| >
| >--
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| ;
| >
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >___________________________________________
| >
| >
| >
| | >| Hello
| >|
| >| I author a website using FP2000 on my local harddrive
| and
| >| publish to an ISP.
| >|
| >| I recently moved the disk based website from an old Win
| >| 98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the
| files
| >| from one directory to another using the LAN and windows
| >| explorer)
| >|
| >| I would like to be able to edit the disk based website
| >| from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over
| the
| >| LAN.
| >|
| >| When I try to open the website from the Win 98 machine
| it
| >| says "server timed out".
| >|
| >| When I look at the website on the XP machine it says
| that
| >| a server is not running and I cannot set any security
| >| permissions as they are greyed out.
| >|
| >| In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be
| running,
| >| but there is nothing I can configure.
| >|
| >| Can anyone help?
| >|
| >| With thanks in advance
| >|
| >| B
| >|
| >
| >
| >.
| >
 
Bazil said:
Hello

I author a website using FP2000 on my local harddrive and
publish to an ISP.

I recently moved the disk based website from an old Win
98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the files
from one directory to another using the LAN and windows
explorer)

I would like to be able to edit the disk based website
from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over the
LAN.

When I try to open the website from the Win 98 machine it
says "server timed out".
Click to expand...

You have a "file share" server, not a "web server" server. You have to
browse across the LAN to edit from the 98 box to the XP box. (You will have
to share the folder on the XP box first.) The server timed out because
there isnt one, you did not set it up.
When I look at the website on the XP machine it says that
a server is not running and I cannot set any security
permissions as they are greyed out.
Click to expand...

Either set the server up, or use the LAN method. (Note, I think I remember
some sort of restriction against editing across a LAN on IIS for
Workstation, like, can't be done. You may need to use PWS on the 98 box and
leave the web there to edit with a real server.)
In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be running,
but there is nothing I can configure.

Can anyone help?
Click to expand...

It sounds like you have an IIS problem. Try asking in the IIS groups. Can
you get to http://localhost/ on the XP box? If not, the server is not
running. (Despite what the Server Extensions thing says, it probably says
you have it installed, not running.)
 
Many thanks for the email. Appreciate your help.

<<You have a "file share" server, not a "web server"
server. You have to browse across the LAN to edit from
the 98 box to the XP box. (You will have to share the
folder on the XP box first.) The server timed out because
there isnt one, you did not set it up.>>

The folder is shared. I can browse from 98 to XP and open
the files in a web browser OK, but I cannot open them in
FrontPage. Guess this is to do with the server setup (or
lack of one!).


<<Either set the server up, or use the LAN method. (Note,
I think I remember some sort of restriction against
editing across a LAN on IIS for Workstation, like, can't
be done. You may need to use PWS on the 98 box and
leave the web there to edit with a real server.)>>

Not sure how to set the server up. 98 does have a PWS but
it seems like a backward step to have to go back to 98
for the two boxes to both be able to edit the same
website. If I can make it work, I would like to use the
XP as the "storage" place for the disk based version of
the web as it is with all the other related work files.



<<It sounds like you have an IIS problem. Try asking in
the IIS groups. Can you get to http://localhost/ on the
XP box? If not, the server is not running. (Despite
what the Server Extensions thing says, it probably says
you have it installed, not running.)>>

Cannot see http://localhost/- so I guess you've hit on
the problem. Will ask in IIS.

THANKS a million for the advice

B
 
Thanks, again, for the advice.

I will check the permissions and see if that helps.
Fingers crossed.

Logically it should all work. Must be doing something
wrong somewhere. Do you run IIS on XP?

Thanks
B
-----Original Message-----
Think it's more related to NFTS permissions / sharing on Win XP vs Win 98

I have no problems opening a Network Disc Based Webs on machines running Win XP


_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (- ;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________


| Thanks, Stefan, for the tip - but it didn't make any
| difference. Think it must be to do with the XP disk based
| web not being a "server". Presume I need some kind of
| Personal Web Server, but can't find out what, or how to
| configure.... Will keep looking
|
| BW
|
| B
|
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Think it's the way Network connections on Win 98 / XP
| work
| >- the timeout is because WinXP first has to open the
| Network Connection (check for any scheduled tasks on win
| 98) and then finally
| >open the web thru the network
| >
| >Try opening Network Connections and browsing to the
| Win98 before you open FP
| >- should cause all that overhead to be over
| >
| >IMHO - upgrade the Win 98 to Win XP
| >
| >--
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| ;
| >
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >___________________________________________
| >
| >
| >
| | >| Hello
| >|
| >| I author a website using FP2000 on my local harddrive
| and
| >| publish to an ISP.
| >|
| >| I recently moved the disk based website from an old Win
| >| 98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the
| files
| >| from one directory to another using the LAN and windows
| >| explorer)
| >|
| >| I would like to be able to edit the disk based website
| >| from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over
| the
| >| LAN.
| >|
| >| When I try to open the website from the Win 98 machine
| it
| >| says "server timed out".
| >|
| >| When I look at the website on the XP machine it says
| that
| >| a server is not running and I cannot set any security
| >| permissions as they are greyed out.
| >|
| >| In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be
| running,
| >| but there is nothing I can configure.
| >|
| >| Can anyone help?
| >|
| >| With thanks in advance
| >|
| >| B
| >|
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.
Click to expand...
 
Yes on occasion, but I also just run DBW

Make sure you set up the folders as shares
(I have a partition W: with just a series of DBW in it and set the drive W as a share)
--



| Thanks, again, for the advice.
|
| I will check the permissions and see if that helps.
| Fingers crossed.
|
| Logically it should all work. Must be doing something
| wrong somewhere. Do you run IIS on XP?
|
| Thanks
| B
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Think it's more related to NFTS permissions / sharing on
| Win XP vs Win 98
| >
| >I have no problems opening a Network Disc Based Webs on
| machines running Win XP
| >
| >
| >_____________________________________________
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| ;
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >_____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | >| Thanks, Stefan, for the tip - but it didn't make any
| >| difference. Think it must be to do with the XP disk
| based
| >| web not being a "server". Presume I need some kind of
| >| Personal Web Server, but can't find out what, or how to
| >| configure.... Will keep looking
| >|
| >| BW
| >|
| >| B
| >|
| >|
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Think it's the way Network connections on Win 98 / XP
| >| work
| >| >- the timeout is because WinXP first has to open the
| >| Network Connection (check for any scheduled tasks on
| win
| >| 98) and then finally
| >| >open the web thru the network
| >| >
| >| >Try opening Network Connections and browsing to the
| >| Win98 before you open FP
| >| >- should cause all that overhead to be over
| >| >
| >| >IMHO - upgrade the Win 98 to Win XP
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| >| FrontPage ]
| >| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
| anything!" (-
| >| ;
| >| >
| >| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >| >___________________________________________
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >
| >| | >| >| Hello
| >| >|
| >| >| I author a website using FP2000 on my local
| harddrive
| >| and
| >| >| publish to an ISP.
| >| >|
| >| >| I recently moved the disk based website from an old
| Win
| >| >| 98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the
| >| files
| >| >| from one directory to another using the LAN and
| windows
| >| >| explorer)
| >| >|
| >| >| I would like to be able to edit the disk based
| website
| >| >| from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over
| >| the
| >| >| LAN.
| >| >|
| >| >| When I try to open the website from the Win 98
| machine
| >| it
| >| >| says "server timed out".
| >| >|
| >| >| When I look at the website on the XP machine it says
| >| that
| >| >| a server is not running and I cannot set any
| security
| >| >| permissions as they are greyed out.
| >| >|
| >| >| In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be
| >| running,
| >| >| but there is nothing I can configure.
| >| >|
| >| >| Can anyone help?
| >| >|
| >| >| With thanks in advance
| >| >|
| >| >| B
| >| >|
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >
| >.
| >
 
Have shared the drive and the web folder, still no luck.

Have asked over at IIS.

THANKS for all your ideas and time

B

-----Original Message-----
Yes on occasion, but I also just run DBW

Make sure you set up the folders as shares
(I have a partition W: with just a series of DBW in it
Click to expand...
and set the drive W as a share)
--
_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (- ;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________


| Thanks, again, for the advice.
|
| I will check the permissions and see if that helps.
| Fingers crossed.
|
| Logically it should all work. Must be doing something
| wrong somewhere. Do you run IIS on XP?
|
| Thanks
| B
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Think it's more related to NFTS permissions / sharing on
| Win XP vs Win 98
| >
| >I have no problems opening a Network Disc Based Webs on
| machines running Win XP
| >
| >
| >_____________________________________________
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| ;
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >_____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | >| Thanks, Stefan, for the tip - but it didn't make any
| >| difference. Think it must be to do with the XP disk
| based
| >| web not being a "server". Presume I need some kind of
| >| Personal Web Server, but can't find out what, or how to
| >| configure.... Will keep looking
| >|
| >| BW
| >|
| >| B
| >|
| >|
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Think it's the way Network connections on Win 98 / XP
| >| work
| >| >- the timeout is because WinXP first has to open the
| >| Network Connection (check for any scheduled tasks on
| win
| >| 98) and then finally
| >| >open the web thru the network
| >| >
| >| >Try opening Network Connections and browsing to the
| >| Win98 before you open FP
| >| >- should cause all that overhead to be over
| >| >
| >| >IMHO - upgrade the Win 98 to Win XP
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| >| FrontPage ]
| >| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
| anything!" (-
| >| ;
| >| >
| >| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >| > http://www.net- sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >| >___________________________________________
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >
| >| | >| >| Hello
| >| >|
| >| >| I author a website using FP2000 on my local
| harddrive
| >| and
| >| >| publish to an ISP.
| >| >|
| >| >| I recently moved the disk based website from an old
| Win
| >| >| 98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the
| >| files
| >| >| from one directory to another using the LAN and
| windows
| >| >| explorer)
| >| >|
| >| >| I would like to be able to edit the disk based
| website
| >| >| from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over
| >| the
| >| >| LAN.
| >| >|
| >| >| When I try to open the website from the Win 98
| machine
| >| it
| >| >| says "server timed out".
| >| >|
| >| >| When I look at the website on the XP machine it says
| >| that
| >| >| a server is not running and I cannot set any
| security
| >| >| permissions as they are greyed out.
| >| >|
| >| >| In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be
| >| running,
| >| >| but there is nothing I can configure.
| >| >|
| >| >| Can anyone help?
| >| >|
| >| >| With thanks in advance
| >| >|
| >| >| B
| >| >|
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.
Click to expand...
 
If you are using IIS, then you need to access the webs via http://servername
or http://localhost or http://127.0.0.1 not via the file system.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


bazil said:
Have shared the drive and the web folder, still no luck.

Have asked over at IIS.

THANKS for all your ideas and time

B

-----Original Message-----
Yes on occasion, but I also just run DBW

Make sure you set up the folders as shares
(I have a partition W: with just a series of DBW in it
Click to expand...
and set the drive W as a share)
--
_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (- ;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________


| Thanks, again, for the advice.
|
| I will check the permissions and see if that helps.
| Fingers crossed.
|
| Logically it should all work. Must be doing something
| wrong somewhere. Do you run IIS on XP?
|
| Thanks
| B
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Think it's more related to NFTS permissions / sharing on
| Win XP vs Win 98
| >
| >I have no problems opening a Network Disc Based Webs on
| machines running Win XP
| >
| >
| >_____________________________________________
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| ;
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >_____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | >| Thanks, Stefan, for the tip - but it didn't make any
| >| difference. Think it must be to do with the XP disk
| based
| >| web not being a "server". Presume I need some kind of
| >| Personal Web Server, but can't find out what, or how to
| >| configure.... Will keep looking
| >|
| >| BW
| >|
| >| B
| >|
| >|
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Think it's the way Network connections on Win 98 / XP
| >| work
| >| >- the timeout is because WinXP first has to open the
| >| Network Connection (check for any scheduled tasks on
| win
| >| 98) and then finally
| >| >open the web thru the network
| >| >
| >| >Try opening Network Connections and browsing to the
| >| Win98 before you open FP
| >| >- should cause all that overhead to be over
| >| >
| >| >IMHO - upgrade the Win 98 to Win XP
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| >| FrontPage ]
| >| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
| anything!" (-
| >| ;
| >| >
| >| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >| > http://www.net- sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >| >___________________________________________
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >
| >| | >| >| Hello
| >| >|
| >| >| I author a website using FP2000 on my local
| harddrive
| >| and
| >| >| publish to an ISP.
| >| >|
| >| >| I recently moved the disk based website from an old
| Win
| >| >| 98 machine to an XP Pro machine. (I just copied the
| >| files
| >| >| from one directory to another using the LAN and
| windows
| >| >| explorer)
| >| >|
| >| >| I would like to be able to edit the disk based
| website
| >| >| from the XP machine and from the Win 98 machine over
| >| the
| >| >| LAN.
| >| >|
| >| >| When I try to open the website from the Win 98
| machine
| >| it
| >| >| says "server timed out".
| >| >|
| >| >| When I look at the website on the XP machine it says
| >| that
| >| >| a server is not running and I cannot set any
| security
| >| >| permissions as they are greyed out.
| >| >|
| >| >| In Admin Tools, Server Extensions appears to be
| >| running,
| >| >| but there is nothing I can configure.
| >| >|
| >| >| Can anyone help?
| >| >|
| >| >| With thanks in advance
| >| >|
| >| >| B
| >| >|
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >
| >.
| >


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