dang...thought you knew a secret.
I still can't get DW up in my Edit With....driving me nuts.
| Heh - I open it from the local site.
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| Murray
| --------------
| MVP FrontPage
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|
| | > ah.
| > So how can you open it with EWD from the browser...or can you?
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | My page doesn't open in FP2003, and produces pretty much the same
| > symptoms
| > | as Sean's. It does open in EWD, but the menu items do not show
| > properly.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Murray
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| > | MVP FrontPage
| > |
| > |
| > message
| > | | > | > I'm disembodied...what I was alluding to was Sean's page with the -
| > | > position
| > | > crashes my FP when I try to open it. Your page also will not open in
| > FP
| > | > but
| > | > it doesn't crash FP...wonderin' if the symptom is related or if your
| > page
| > | > doesn't open for some other reason. I get an error that the web
| > doesn't
| > | > exist on your homepage.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | Well, the inc page is nothing but a disembodied list! 8)
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Murray
| > | > | --------------
| > | > | MVP FrontPage
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > message
| > | > | | > | > | > pretty cool...
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > it won't open in FP..says it doesn't exist, but I can open the
inc
| > | > page
| > | > in
| > | > | > FP.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Actually, I'm hiding the text offscreen. See, for example,
the
| > menu
| > | > | > here -
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
http://66.165.96.216
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | The menu is built from this include file -
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
http://66.165.96.216/includes/topmenu.html
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Now look back at the page. Do you see those words in the
menu?
| > | > Nope.
| > | > | > In
| > | > | > | fact, in making this post, I note that I have to edit that
file
| > to
| > | > | > | correspond to the new menu options I have just put in place.
| > Why
| > | > don't
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | see the words? Because of this -
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | #navlist LI A {
| > | > | > | DISPLAY: block;
| > | > | > | FONT-SIZE: 1px;
| > | > | > | BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(../images/nav/navButtons2.gif);
| > | > | > | WIDTH: 180px;
| > | > | > | COLOR: white;
| > | > | > | TEXT-INDENT: -1000px;
| > | > | > | BACKGROUND-REPEAT: no-repeat;
| > | > | > | TEXT-DECORATION: none
| > | > | > | }
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | The content of those <a> tags is being indented 1000px to the
| > left
| > | > of
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | screen. This moves them out of the way so that the background
| > image
| > | > can
| > | > | > | "shine" through. That's what allows me to use the special
font
| > on
| > | > the
| > | > | > menu
| > | > | > | options.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | Murray
| > | > | > | --------------
| > | > | > | MVP FrontPage
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > in
| > | > | > message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > So you're actually hiding an image 900px to the left...off
| > screen?
| > | > | > Total
| > | > | > | > weirdness. If my monitor were a cube could I see it if I
| > looked
| > | > around
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > corner to the left?
))
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Could be a problem with FP's handling of that kind of
thing?
| > | > But
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | practice is completely legal and even common.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | > | Murray
| > | > | > | > | --------------
| > | > | > | > | MVP FrontPage
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <
[email protected]>
| > wrote
| > | > in
| > | > | > | > message
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > So..why should FP crash when you try to open OP's
| > site...my
| > FP
| > | > | > totally
| > | > | > | > | > barfed on it a couple of times.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |> exclusive of the fact you shouldn't be using em
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | There is no reason not to use ems.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > - not possible to write off of the screen
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | Of course it is. I do it frequently to hide text
under
| > a
| > | > | > graphic
| > | > | > | > | > image -
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | h1 { text-indent:-900px; }
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | It's also commonly used to place layers offscreen so
| > that
| > | > they
| > | > | > can
| > | > | > | > be
| > | > | > | > | > moved
| > | > | > | > | > | onscreen at a later time.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | > | > | Murray
| > | > | > | > | > | --------------
| > | > | > | > | > | MVP FrontPage
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > message
| > | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > | > remove the css (exclusive of the fact you shouldn't
be
| > | > using
| > | > | > em)
| > | > | > | > | > | > - a negative absolute location means you are trying
to
| > | > | > write -999
| > | > | > | > em
| > | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > | > the left of the screen and -1.35em above the screen
| > | > | > | > | > | > - not possible to write off of the screen and
attempts
| > are
| > | > | > blocked
| > | > | > | > now
| > | > | > | > | > by
| > | > | > | > | > | > most browsers (that is an old 'trick" used by
| > | > | > | > | > | > spyware/hijackers)
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| > FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
anything!"
| > (-;
| > | > | > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support
see:
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| >
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
| > | > | > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > "Sean Powell" <
[email protected]>
| > wrote
| > | > in
| > | > | > | > message
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi All!
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | I hope everyone is fine, I have a strange issue
that
| > I
| > | > could
| > | > | > use
| > | > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | > hand
| > | > | > | > | > | > with.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Opening this page:
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/example/vertical.html
| > | > | > | > | > | > | in FP2003 causes an instant crash (Win XP PRo SP2)
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Makes no difference whether its local or online.
The
| > | > crash
| > | > | > | > "appears"
| > | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > | > be
| > | > | > | > | > | > | caused by the position:absolute statement in the
css
| > | > file:
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | #nav li ul { /* second-level lists */
| > | > | > | > | > | > | position : absolute;
| > | > | > | > | > | > | left: -999em;
| > | > | > | > | > | > | margin-left : 11.05em;
| > | > | > | > | > | > | margin-top : -1.35em;
| > | > | > | > | > | > | }
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Thoughts? Anyone heard of this happening?
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
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