formatting issue

[Guest]

Good evening all. I'm a relative newbie at this, so if you can answer in a
way that doesn't require me to do scripting, I'd appreciate it!

I'm creating my first site in FrontPage (after being told by my ISP that
using Publisher to design it in the first place was a bad idea).

The problem I'm having is formatting. How do you turn off "Word-like"
formatting? ie: Why can't I just place buttons where I want on the page, or
navigation bars where I want? Why do they just pop up wherever the cursor
happens to be? Once they're there, I can't move them either. Whatever
shortcoming Publisher had, it allowed you to do this quite easily.

ANY help is welcome, as I have been searching the assistance groups for 2
days... and not quite finding the help I desperately need.

Much obliged!

 

[Murray]

(after being told by my ISP that

using Publisher to design it in the first place was a bad idea).

Score one for the ISP!

Why can't I just place buttons where I want on the page, or
navigation bars where I want?

Because that's not how HTML works.

Why do they just pop up wherever the cursor
happens to be?

They don't. But they may appear to do that because they will usually align
with the left margin of the page unless you put them IN something that can
move them away from that location, like a table.

Once they're there, I can't move them either.

That's right - that's HTML.

Whatever
shortcoming Publisher had, it allowed you to do this quite easily.

That's because Publisher wasn't restricted to the rules imposed by browsers
and HTML.

ANY help is welcome, as I have been searching the assistance groups for 2
days... and not quite finding the help I desperately need.

Perhaps a clear and specific statement of the help you need would help!

 

[Steve Easton]

Sarah

Unfortunately you are going to have to "forget" everything you learned using publisher
and start from scratch with FrontPage, as there is no comparison between the two.

Painful as it may seem at first, once you get down the basics of FrontPage you will be amazed at
it's simplicity. ( And at the same time it's capabilities )

;-)

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer

 

[Guest]

Ah yes sorry...the tendency to blather when frustrated.

Right, trying to set up navigation bar and would like to place it beneath my
logo. Now my logo does not spread the width of the page, but the navigation
bar insists on inserting itself the the right of my logo.

Direct question: Can you set it so that navigation bars can appear in like
say, a text box or something like buttons can?

Cheers.

 

[Ronx]

If by text-box you are referring to the object produced using the
Drawing toolbar - avoid them for any purpose. The objects produced
from the Drawing toolbar (text boxes, shape art, word art etc.) use
VML graphics. VML will only display in Internet Explorer running on
Windows, other browsers will instead render a poor quality .gif image
or nothing at all.

The simplest way to get your nav bar below the logo is to use a 2 row
single column table, the code for which will resemble:
<table width="100%">
<tr>
<td>insert logo here</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>insert navigation bar here</td>
</tr>
</table>

Use the positioning buttons to align the logo and nav.bar to left,
right or centre of the table.
This example will place a table across the browser, with no borders
showing around the cells.

 

[Guest]

Sigh....third time lucky I suppose then. Thanks everyone, I'll give all of
your recommendations a try (and start again from scratch...seeing as I used
text boxes all OVER the place). Forgive the greenness...I aspire to
greatness, it just might take a while.

Cheers!

 

[KatWoman]

My advice for FP new users is to begin with one of the templates. If you
already use other MS programs it is really easy.

The layout is already done, you can learn much by working with an already
created outline of a well-structured page.
As you learn more you can customize it!