Fluid Mask for Paint Shop Pro X

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Is there a compatible (or freeware) option of Fluid Mask
(http://www.vertustech.com) that would work for PSP X?
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The best tool for removing background is the back ground eraser. Free in psp
OX and from PSP 8 onwards. To get the best from it, like all tools you need
practise and understanding
http://www.campratty.com/4tooltours/kz/bge1.html That a user guide, a
lengthy one. written by its crater and hosted by Porter.

Looking at the demo of the software its a cross between Magic wand
selections and modify select colour ranges.
In PSP you have many ways of selecting and modifying selections with
practise you will find which is best for the job in hand.Sometimes the
simplest is the better. I certainly dont think you need any extra software
to do what psp was designed for.
 
Trev said:
The best tool for removing background is the back ground eraser. Free
in psp OX and from PSP 8 onwards. To get the best from it, like all
tools you need practise and understanding
http://www.campratty.com/4tooltours/kz/bge1.html That a user guide, a
lengthy one. written by its crater and hosted by Porter.

Looking at the demo of the software its a cross between Magic wand
selections and modify select colour ranges.
In PSP you have many ways of selecting and modifying selections with
practise you will find which is best for the job in hand.Sometimes the
simplest is the better. I certainly dont think you need any extra
software to do what psp was designed for.
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Thanks. I will have a look at the tut. I have struggled in the past with PSP
X to get the busy backgrounds (e.g. hair on people's heads, spokes on
bicycle wheels etc.) out of the way. The simple ones work great with that
background eraser tool.
 
Gabriele said:
On that special day, Image Skill, ([email protected]) said...


This is a DEMO, not freeware.
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You are exactly correct. The original poster wrote as follows:
"Is there a compatible (OR freeware) option". The poster did not
write: "Is there a compatible (AND freeware) option". The emphasis
is mine because English may not be your native language. The
original poster put his message in alt.comp.freeware but he also
cross-posted to comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro. Both the
language of his post and his choice of posting locations shows
he (or maybe she) is open to purchasing a product. The originally
mentioned Fluid Mask product is not a free one either.
 
You are exactly correct. The original poster wrote as follows:
"Is there a compatible (OR freeware) option". The poster did not
write: "Is there a compatible (AND freeware) option". The emphasis
is mine because English may not be your native language. The
original poster put his message in alt.comp.freeware but he also
cross-posted to comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro. Both the
language of his post and his choice of posting locations shows
he (or maybe she) is open to purchasing a product. The originally
mentioned Fluid Mask product is not a free one either.
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Had you replied ONLY to "comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro," then your
reply would have been on topic, but you didn't and it wasn't on topic
for ACF. By way of example, I'm replying ONLY in ACF.
 
Thanks very much everyone. I had a long read of the tutorial mentioned by
Trev.
I didn't realise the background eraser was so detailed so learned a lot
especially "Discontiguous".
Asked in A.C.F. because many times there are freeware alternatives which do
the job :-D
So...is PSP X background eraser built-in but nothing like this in PhotoShop
and that's why they need FluidMask?
 
Thanks very much everyone. I had a long read of the tutorial mentioned
by Trev.
I didn't realise the background eraser was so detailed so learned a
lot especially "Discontiguous".
Asked in A.C.F. because many times there are freeware alternatives
which do the job :-D
So...is PSP X background eraser built-in but nothing like this in
PhotoShop and that's why they need FluidMask?
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I can't speak for all the Photoshop programs (Elements, for
example) but happen to have PS7 and it also has a built-in
background eraser. I don't actually use PS for much so haven't
tried it and don't know if it is as effective or flexible as the
one that is in Paint Shop Pro.

People often develop plugins for programs that already have the
capability in the program, claiming that their plugin does it
easier, faster or better. Sometimes they are correct, often not.
The Paint Shop Pro Background Eraser is extremely good in my
opinion.

Regards,

JoeB
 
JoeB said:
I can't speak for all the Photoshop programs (Elements, for
example) but happen to have PS7 and it also has a built-in
background eraser. I don't actually use PS for much so haven't
tried it and don't know if it is as effective or flexible as the
one that is in Paint Shop Pro.

People often develop plugins for programs that already have the
capability in the program, claiming that their plugin does it
easier, faster or better. Sometimes they are correct, often not.
The Paint Shop Pro Background Eraser is extremely good in my
opinion.

Regards,

JoeB
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Where PSP outshines PS in the background eraser stakes Is Its ability to
change brush size and settings as you go work so Always having the best for
the job. It does this without losing the data so at any time you can un
erase or paint back in. Not so with PS you have to start a new instance,
should you need a smaller soft brush or different shape so losing all the
data created so far. That and the fact PS was a year later with it then PSP
 
Where PSP outshines PS in the background eraser stakes Is Its ability
to change brush size and settings as you go work so Always having the
best for the job. It does this without losing the data so at any time
you can un erase or paint back in. Not so with PS you have to start a
new instance, should you need a smaller soft brush or different shape
so losing all the data created so far. That and the fact PS was a year
later with it then PSP
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Thanks for the info, Trev.

Regards,

JoeB
 
Where PSP outshines PS in the background eraser stakes Is Its ability to
change brush size and settings as you go work so Always having the best
for
the job. It does this without losing the data so at any time you can un
erase or paint back in. Not so with PS you have to start a new instance,
should you need a smaller soft brush or different shape so losing all the
data created so far. That and the fact PS was a year later with it then
PSP
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In PS CS2 you can use the [] keys to change brushsizes (shift [] to change
hardness) on almost all tools as you paint (or erase). Or you can assign any
other keys to do this.
If you want to redraw what you erased use the history brush.

Kiri
 
The growcut plugins are free and they do actaully work both in PSP
although you have to fiddle a bit. Best start out with a simple mask.

http://research.graphicon.ru/growcut/gml-growcut.html

Has somebody tried the Imageskill plugin yet?

Personally I do like the solution integrated in Corels PhotoPaint the
best, far from perfect but very usefull, and I wish they would include
it in PSP.
 
HTech said:
Where PSP outshines PS in the background eraser stakes Is Its ability to
change brush size and settings as you go work so Always having the best
for
the job. It does this without losing the data so at any time you can un
erase or paint back in. Not so with PS you have to start a new instance,
should you need a smaller soft brush or different shape so losing all the
data created so far. That and the fact PS was a year later with it then
PSP
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In PS CS2 you can use the [] keys to change brushsizes (shift [] to change
hardness) on almost all tools as you paint (or erase). Or you can assign any
other keys to do this.
If you want to redraw what you erased use the history brush.
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Darn, just like Adobe to supply the power.

:-)

Uni
 
Uni said:
HTech said:
Where PSP outshines PS in the background eraser stakes Is Its ability to
change brush size and settings as you go work so Always having the best
for
the job. It does this without losing the data so at any time you can un
erase or paint back in. Not so with PS you have to start a new instance,
should you need a smaller soft brush or different shape so losing all the
data created so far. That and the fact PS was a year later with it then
PSP
Click to expand...


In PS CS2 you can use the [] keys to change brushsizes (shift [] to
change hardness) on almost all tools as you paint (or erase). Or you can
assign any other keys to do this.
If you want to redraw what you erased use the history brush.
Click to expand...

Darn, just like Adobe to supply the power.

:-)

Uni
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Took the 3 more Verstions Than Jasc. Can you change its shape on the fly
too.
They have a good chanch of making Adobe one of the best Now that PSP has the
corel handcap.
 
Trev said:
Uni said:
HTech said:
Where PSP outshines PS in the background eraser stakes Is Its ability to

change brush size and settings as you go work so Always having the best
for
the job. It does this without losing the data so at any time you can un
erase or paint back in. Not so with PS you have to start a new instance,
should you need a smaller soft brush or different shape so losing all
the
data created so far. That and the fact PS was a year later with it then
PSP


In PS CS2 you can use the [] keys to change brushsizes (shift [] to
change hardness) on almost all tools as you paint (or erase). Or you can
assign any other keys to do this.
If you want to redraw what you erased use the history brush.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Took the 3 more Verstions Than Jasc. Can you change its shape on the fly
too.
They have a good chanch of making Adobe one of the best Now that PSP has
the corel handcap.
Click to expand...
You can change whatever you like, if you keep the brush palette open.
And with a Wacom tablet (which I use) possibilities become endless.
The only thing imho where PSP outshines PS is DCNR. That's the best filter
I've ever seen.
 
Trev said:
HTech wrote:

Where PSP outshines PS in the background eraser stakes Is Its ability to


change brush size and settings as you go work so Always having the best
for
the job. It does this without losing the data so at any time you can un
erase or paint back in. Not so with PS you have to start a new instance,
should you need a smaller soft brush or different shape so losing all the
data created so far. That and the fact PS was a year later with it then
PSP


In PS CS2 you can use the [] keys to change brushsizes (shift [] to
change hardness) on almost all tools as you paint (or erase). Or you can
assign any other keys to do this.
If you want to redraw what you erased use the history brush.
Click to expand...

Darn, just like Adobe to supply the power.

:-)

Uni
Click to expand...

Took the 3 more Verstions Than Jasc. Can you change its shape on the fly
too.
They have a good chanch of making Adobe one of the best Now that PSP has the
corel handcap.
Click to expand...

Dear Trev: Stores that USED to sell Paint Shop Pro, no longer do. Oh,
yeah, Corel will be its savior, alright!

:-)

Uni
 
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