Floppy disk(s) fail (40)

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Hi,

A few weeks ago, I built a computer. T-Force 6100-939 motherboard, Seagate
Barracuda SATA hdd, Windows X64. It ran perfectly until I installed a SATA
adapter card about two weeks ago and my computer "died." I removed the SATA
card and it started to work again but when I shut it off at night when I went
to sleep, the next morning it wouldn't boot up again . . . no lights, no
fans or anything else. I bought a new PSU and it still wouldn't boot up.
The power-on button doesn't work. The only way the computer will boot up is
by pressing the Reset button and I found that by using a last resort measure
of pressing any button that moved. I made sure that all the system
connectors/plugs were in the right ports/slots a number of times, using the
motherboard's manual to make sure of each connection. I removed them all and
reinserted them at least 5 times. Since I was able to get my computer to
work by pressing the Reset button, I resigned myself to be temporarily okay
with it until I could take it to someone who could fix the problem (wires?).

Prior to this happening, when I pressed the power on button, the T-Force
splash screen came on for about 5 seconds and then it proceeded to Windows.
Now, the T-Force splash screen stays on for about 15 seconds and it goes to
the Post screen where it says "floppy disk(s) fail (40)" and then I have to
press F1 to get to Windows.

I've already deleted the floppy driver and controller and rebooted. Both
times I received the "new hardware" icon in my systray but the drive still
doesn't work.

I Googled "floppy disk(s) fail (40)" and it came up with a number of
results, with all of them saying that it's either a bad cable, a bad floppy
drive or the cable was inserted incorrectly. I know the cable is inserted
correctly, but I switched it around all 8 way two times, but it didn'thelp.
One of the results from the Google search came from Microsoft:

"Shut down
Disconnect Floppy cables
Reboot into safe mode
remove floppy in system properties
Reboot
Shut down
Reconnect both cables ( power & data)
Reboot"

I would like to try this method but I don't understand the instruction
"remove floppy in system properties." How do I remove floppy in system
properties? Where is system properties? How do I get to it?

And if you can think of anything else, I'd sure appreciate it.
 
Denise wrote: "How do I remove floppy in system properties"

Here are three methods:
1.) Right-click 'My Computer' | Manage | Device Manager | +Floppy disk
drives | Right-click Floppy disk drive | (click) OK button.

2.) Start | Control Panel | System | Hardware (tab) | (click) Device Manager
button | +Floppy disk drives | Right-click Floppy disk drive | (click) OK
button.

3.) Start | Run | (type) MMC | (click) OK button | File | Add/Remove
Snap-in... | (click) Add... button | Device Manager | (click) Add button |
(click) Finish button | (click) Close button | (click) OK button | (click)
Device Manager button | +Floppy disk drives | Right-click Floppy disk drive
| (click) OK button.

Steve
 
So no "System Properties, only "Device Manager" in Computer Management.
Terminology. . . it'll getcha every time.

Thanks for your help Steve.
--
Denise

~ If you don't know where you came from, you won't know where you're going.
 
Some Windows System tools lack intuitive names, but 'Device Manager' is,
indeed, where you "manage devices".
"System Properties", on the other hand, is not entirely intuitive. Some of
its tabs detail 'properties' (General and Computer Name). Most of the tabs,
however, are paths to 'System Tools', such as Device Manager.

Here is one way to visit "System Properties":
Right-click on 'My Computer' and select "Properties" -- the popup is labeled
"System Properties".

The study of Windows is rather like the study of English Grammar:
Some rules are intuitive (every question should end with a question mark).
Other rules make no sense ('i' before 'e' except after 'c' and except for a
whole slew of itemized exceptions, and except for Jewish proper names, and
except for...).

Good luck,
Steve
 
I came to the conclusion that either the cable or the floppy drive is
defective. When I plugged in that SATA card, something in my computer didn't
like it very much. I bought a Corsair 620W (vs the original OKIA 450W).
Hopefully, it will make a difference.

Thanks for your advice.
--
Denise

~ If you don't know where you came from, you won't know where you're going.
 
I get the "floppy disk(s) fail (40)" message also when I boot up, I then have to press F1 to boot windows, just like you said. I found this makes no difference when all the floppy drives are disconnected. I have changed some of the BIOS setting and this could be the cause. What boot settings should I have set up?

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Right now, I have mine set to boot from DVD drive first, then hard drive. I
disabled the floppy drive in BIOS so I don't have to press F1. I just bought
a new floopy drive and cable and will be installing it soon. From what I've
read, SATA should have the floppy drive as first in the boot sequence, the
DVD ROM drive next, and the hard drive is third. It was the ideal set-up
before the SATA card damaged my floppy drive. (I'm hoping it's the floppy
drive and not something on the motherboard.) A floppy drive is also
necessary to create the Automated System Recovery disks.
 
You probably still have the BIOS setup to look for the floppy drive as a
boot device. If the floppy drive is shot and you have no intention of
repairing or replacing it, remove it from the Boot Sequence in the BIOS.

Also Disable Floppy Drive Seek at Boot
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/bios/set/advSeek-c.html

Disable FDD Controller or Floppy Controller
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/bios/set/periphFDC-c.html

Remove the floppy drive from the Boot Sequence.
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/bios/set/advBoot-c.html

Floppy disk fail (40) or (80) error
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000426.htm

Basic floppy disk drive troubleshooting
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000277.htm

I just bought a new machine that did not come with a floppy drive. I added
one and use it frequently.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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I get the "floppy disk(s) fail (40)" message also when I boot up, I then have to press F1 to boot windows, just like you said. I found this makes no difference when all the floppy drives are disconnected. I have changed some of the BIOS setting and this could be the cause. What boot settings should I have set up?

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Why post here? What happens during POST happens before the OS loads.
As such, this has nothing to do with XP.

Ask elsewhere.
 
NoConsequence said:
Why post here? What happens during POST happens before the OS loads.
As such, this has nothing to do with XP.

Ask elsewhere.
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What about all the questions about OEM's. (Dell, HP, etc.)
Microsoft does not support OEM versions of Windows.
 
What about all the questions about OEM's. (Dell, HP, etc.)
Microsoft does not support OEM versions of Windows.
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If they relate to the h/w interaction with the OS, they belong here,
regardless of the OEM version. MS doesn't provide the answers, after
all, they merely sponsor the server that houses the groups.
 
I've disabled the floppy drive in BIOS so that I don't have to press F1 to
continue. I bought another floppy drive and but I haven't installed them
yet.

Thanks for the links.
 
XP Pro X64 needs the floppy drive to be first in the boot sequence, otherwise
it stops at the post screen and F1 has to be pressed to continue. In
addition, the Automated System Recovery disks must be floppy disks. This
makes it an XP Pro X64 problem (not sure about Vista X64).
 
XP Pro X64 needs the floppy drive to be first in the boot sequence, otherwise
it stops at the post screen and F1 has to be pressed to continue. In
addition, the Automated System Recovery disks must be floppy disks. This
makes it an XP Pro X64 problem (not sure about Vista X64).
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XP does NOTHING during POST. POST occurs before the OS even begins to
load. The message that pops up about needing to press F1 to continue
ALSO occurs BEFORE the OS loads.

So, it has NOTHING to do with the OS.
 
You misunderstood what I said. I didn't mean the POST screen prior to
installing the os. I mean the POST screen that appears after the os is
installed if there is no floppy drive. This POST screen doesn't appear if a
floppy drive is installed so that it goes from the splash screen straight to
Windows without stopping at the POST screen to press F1. The only other way
to get around the need to press F1 at the POST screen after the os is
installed is by going into BIOS and disabling the floppy drive.
 
You misunderstood what I said. I didn't mean the POST screen prior to
installing the os. I mean the POST screen that appears after the os is
installed if there is no floppy drive. This POST screen doesn't appear if a
floppy drive is installed so that it goes from the splash screen straight to
Windows without stopping at the POST screen to press F1. The only other way
to get around the need to press F1 at the POST screen after the os is
installed is by going into BIOS and disabling the floppy drive.
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There is no POST messages or screens AFTER the OS loads. POST occurs
immediately after the system comes on, hence the name: Power On Self
Test.

Once POST has finished, THEN the OS starts to load. Hence, no POST
messages after the OS starts.

So if this is a POST issue, it has nothing to do with the OS and you
are wasting our time here.

If it's NOT a POST issue, please stop calling it that.
 
You misunderstood what I said. I didn't mean the POST screen prior to
installing the os. I mean the POST screen that appears after the os is
installed if there is no floppy drive. This POST screen doesn't appear if
a
floppy drive is installed so that it goes from the splash screen straight
to
Windows without stopping at the POST screen to press F1. The only other
way
to get around the need to press F1 at the POST screen after the os is
installed is by going into BIOS and disabling the floppy drive.
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Denise,

Ignore "No C".

-John O
 
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