Fixed IP disappears from "computers near me"??

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Fixed IP disappears from "computers near me"??

Windows 2000SP4, windows98se wired local network.
Using DHCP, it works fine. DHCP is in the router.

I want a fixed IP address for one of my 98se machines.
When I do that, the fixed IP machine disappears from the "computers near me"
menu on the 2K machine. Also missing from "entire network".
Search finds it.
I can still make a new network place and
access the machine.
The 2K machine is also missing from the 98se machine's network neighborhood.
Turning off the firewell doesn't help.

My xp machine can still see the fixed address 98se machine. Looks like
a win2k
issue.

I have almost no win2K experience.
How do I fix this so I can have a fixed IP machine without losing
functionality?

The root of my problem is that my laptop hibernates. When it's off, DHCP
assigns its IP address to a new machine. When the laptop comes out of
hibernation with it's old, now conflicting, IP address, things gets ugly
on the network.
Fixed IP address fixes this problem, but creates the one above.

Thanks, mike
 
The hibernation shouldn't be an issue. I think there is something wrong in
your router setup. Maybe the lease time is too short.

Fixed IP addresses should be no problem in your case, what I think is that
there are some problems with the master browser service on your network.
Start the Computer Browser service only on one computer on the network
(maybe on the one that runs all the time) and disable it on the others.


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Andrei said:
The hibernation shouldn't be an issue. I think there is something wrong in
your router setup. Maybe the lease time is too short.

Fixed IP addresses should be no problem in your case, what I think is that
there are some problems with the master browser service on your network.
Start the Computer Browser service only on one computer on the network
(maybe on the one that runs all the time) and disable it on the others.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the input.
Lease time should be irrelevant because ALL of the machines and the
router get shut down every night. The only machine that remembers
ANYTHING should be the laptop that's been hibernated. Everybody
else gets a new IP address from the router when they boot. yes?no?

The browser service on the 2000 machine claims to be running. I don't
have ANY machines that run continuously. This machine is always the
first one booted on the network. It recognizes the second machine if
it's dhcp but not if the second machine is fixed IP. Why does the
browser service care HOW the machines got their IP address?

mike
 
Wrong subnet mask usually. NetBIOS is broadcast based. What is constitutes a
network broadcast is determined by the subnet mask. If one computer has a
different subnet mask than the others, it's broadcast will not appear as a
broadcast to the other machines (even though they can still connect and ping
by ip address or WINS / DNS resolved name).

....kurt
 
so the router is shut down every night?
hey guess what ... your issue is solved: don't shut down the router every
night! (or after that shut down EVERY computer, not hibernate so that they
can relese the IP addresses).

Regarding the master browser service, use BROWSTAT utility to check who is
the master browser on your network.


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mike said:
Fixed IP disappears from "computers near me"??

Windows 2000SP4, windows98se wired local network.
Using DHCP, it works fine. DHCP is in the router.
Click to expand...

Let's not sit around and "guess" about everything.

Post the output of "IPConfig /All" from one DHCP machine and also from the
the Static machine. In the case of the Win98 it is "WinIPcfg" instead of
IPConfig.

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mike said:
Thanks for the input.
Lease time should be irrelevant because ALL of the machines and the
router get shut down every night. The only machine that remembers
ANYTHING should be the laptop that's been hibernated. Everybody
else gets a new IP address from the router when they boot. yes?no?
Click to expand...

Yes,..kinda-sorta.
DHCP Clients always request the same IP# they had the previous time and
99.99% of the time will get it. They only get a new IP# if their previous
one has be given to something else, which is rare since everything else is
also requesting the same IP Config it had last time.
The browser service on the 2000 machine claims to be running. I don't
have ANY machines that run continuously. This machine is always the
first one booted on the network. It recognizes the second machine if
it's dhcp but not if the second machine is fixed IP. Why does the
browser service care HOW the machines got their IP address?
Click to expand...

To early to answer that. See my other post.
 
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