"Files Stored on this Computer"

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The above section of My Computers show up only Shared
Documents and one other normal user's Documents. Not
mine. I'm logged in as a normal (restricted) user. Why
don't others appear? According to

http://dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-339.html

only admin should see other users' folders here. Why is
the other normal user showing up here?

Win XP user accounts stink. I created two user account
(restricted, both). One shows up, one doesn't. Obe took
on some of the internet connection settings of the admin
user creating that account, the other didn't.

Really inconsistent and illogical.

Thanks,
Mike
 
| "Mike" <[email protected]>
| wrote in message | The above section of My Computers show up only Shared
| Documents and one other normal user's Documents. Not
| mine. I'm logged in as a normal (restricted) user. Why
| don't others appear? <SNIP>

See the WORKAROUND section in the following Microsoft
Knowledge Base article:

KB319825 - Shared Documents Folders Are Missing
From My Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;319825

NOTE:
Changing or deleting registry entries can cause you to have to
reinstall the whole operating system. Before you run the Registry
Editor I recommend that you understand how to backup, edit
and restore the registry.

In particular, I suggest that you read the KB Article section
titled "Export Registry Keys" and then, before you edit the
registry, export the keys that you plan to edit. For more
information see the following Microsoft Knowledge Base
Article and/or Registry FAQ.

KB322756 - HOW TO: Back Up, Edit, and Restore the
Registry in Windows XP and Windows Server
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;322756

Windows Registry Guide - Windows Registry FAQ
http://www.winguides.com/article.php?id=1&guide=registry
 
Thanks for the reply. I guess a follow-up question is:
should one restricted user directory be accessible by
another restricted user? By default, shouldn't the My
Docs folder be NOT shared to other restricted users, and
hence NOT appear in My Computer?

The KB article talks about shared directories not
appearing, but in my case it's the reverse where a
directory IS appearing and which perhaps shouldn't?

I do notice that when logged on as an Admin, all
directories appear in My Computer, which is what I would
expect.


Mike
 
||| "Mike" <[email protected]>
||| wrote in message ||| The above section of My Computers show up only Shared
||| Documents and one other normal user's Documents. Not mine.
||| I'm logged in as a normal (restricted) user. Why don't others
||| appear? <SNIP>

|| "Carrie Garth" <[email protected]>
|| wrote in message || See the WORKAROUND section in the following Microsoft
|| Knowledge Base article: KB319825 <SNIP>

| "Mike B" <[email protected]>
| wrote in message | Thanks for the reply. I guess a follow-up question is:
| should one restricted user directory be accessible by
| another restricted user? By default, shouldn't the My
| Docs folder be NOT shared to other restricted users,
| and hence NOT appear in My Computer?

On my installations of Microsoft Windows XP
Professional, when I logon as an Administrator and create
two new limited users (LimitedUser1 and LimitedUser2),
then logon to the computer using those accounts and view
the "Files Stored on This Computer" heading in My
Computer, the only folders visible to LimitedUser1 are:
"Shared Documents" and "LimitedUser1's Documents".
And the only folders visible to LimitedUser2 are:
"Shared Documents" and "LimitedUser2's Documents".

And the only way I am able to view "LimitedUser2's
Documents" while logged on as LimitedUser1 is to:
- Install Microsoft Windows XP on a partition formatted with NTFS
- Logon as an Administrator
- Disable Simple File Sharing
- Use Windows Explorer to display
C:\Documents and Settings\LimitedUser2\My Documents
- Right-click the folder, choose Properties, select the Security
tab, click the Add button to add LimitedUser1, click Apply
and click OK.

BTW, I tried sharing the LimitedUser2 folder and that did not
cause "LimitedUser2's Documents" to show up when I logged
on as LimitedUser1 and viewed the "Files Stored on This
Computer" heading in My Computer. So I do not think the
problem is related to File Sharing.

Also, I also tried giving full-control permission to Everyone on the
applicable registry key (listed in KB319825) and that did not
cause "LimitedUser2's Documents" to show up when I logged
on as LimitedUser1 and viewed the "Files Stored on This
Computer" heading in My Computer. So I do not think the
problem is related to registry key permissions.

Note: I am unable to find any Microsoft documentation on the
subject. However, I did Google and found a reference to
TweakUI being able to control this. So if you have TweakUI
(or a similar 3rd party tweaking application) installed you may
want to check its settings.

| The KB article talks about shared directories not
| appearing, but in my case it's the reverse where a
| directory IS appearing and which perhaps shouldn't?

The KB article explains how an Administrator could use the
registry editor to correct the problem of your documents
folder not appearing when you view the "Files Stored on
This Computer" heading in My Computer.

| I do notice that when logged on as an Admin, all
| directories appear in My Computer, which is what
| I would expect. Mike

Yes. That is correct.
 
Carrie -- thanks, it's really helpful to know what
behaviour to expect before trying to figure out what to
tweak. From what you say, it sounds like it should be
difficult for one user to access files in another user's
directory. I don't seem to have that difficulty, even as
a restricted user. I managed to create a restricted user
account, browse into an admin's folders, and copy all
files across into mine. The reason I was doing this is
because the admin was created as "default" when I
upgraded from ME as the sole account, but I didn't want
to be logged on routinely as admin, so I created a
separate account and copied files across -- should I have
been allowed to do this? Also, what is the difference
between the "default" admin created for me on upgrade
(which appears at login), and the "real" (?) Admin which
you access at boot time? Both show up using Run->control
userpasswords2. Do I need both?

I'll do some experimentation along the lines you have
done, check tweakui, and get back.

Thanks,

Mike
 
The reason for the restricted account to be able to access other users
accounts is the filesystem. If you upgraded from ME, which uses FAT32 to XP,
which can use FAT12/16/32 OR NTFS, without converting your filesystem leaves
it as FAT32.

And FAT32 has no access regulating functions, as NTFS has ACLs.
(ACL=Access Control List)

To convert your FS open a MSDOS-prompt (Start->Run: CMD)
and enter "convert c: /fs:ntfs" (without citation marks)
repeat for additional disks you have in the computer
I'd backup any valuable data on the disks beforehand, even if converting is
painless and nondestructive

I don't think XP places ACLs on files and folders now, it has to be done
file/folder by file/folder by hand after the conversion.


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Thanks, useful to know. In the upgrade literature it
recommended leaving as FAT unless you had a massive HD, so
I just left it. I can see the benefits of NTFS now, and
might try converting if I'm brave -- especially since you
say it's non-desctructive (in theory!). Might wait till I
have means of backing up though!

Mike
 
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