file share between XP and win 2000

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Tony

I have a home LAN (workgroup)with 3 computers - one with
XP, another with 98 SE, and one with win2000. I can't
share files between the XP and the win2000 computers. The
XP and 98 SE machines can see and share the folders among
themselves. The XP can see the win2000 machine, but can't
access its shared folders. The win2000 can't even see the
XP machine.

Any suggestions???
 
"Tony" said:
I have a home LAN (workgroup)with 3 computers - one with
XP, another with 98 SE, and one with win2000. I can't
share files between the XP and the win2000 computers. The
XP and 98 SE machines can see and share the folders among
themselves. The XP can see the win2000 machine, but can't
access its shared folders. The win2000 can't even see the
XP machine.

Any suggestions???
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I've written a web site that should help you solve the problem:

Windows XP Network Troubleshooting
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot

Please pay particular attention to these sections:

1. Firewalls: Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection
Firewall on local area network connections -- it's for use only on a
direct modem connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all
other firewalls while troubleshooting.

2. Protocols: Use only one for File and Printer Sharing. If the
network needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing
from all but one of them.

3. NetBIOS over TCP/IP: Make sure that it's enabled on all computers.

If that doesn't solve the problem, please reply to this message in the
news group (not by E-mail) with more information to help other people
understand the problem.

How are you seeing the win2000 machine from XP? How are you trying to
access it shared folders? What exactly happens when you do it? If
there's an error message, what is its complete text?
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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-----Original Message-----
I've written a web site that should help you solve the problem:

Windows XP Network Troubleshooting
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot

Please pay particular attention to these sections:

1. Firewalls: Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection
Firewall on local area network connections -- it's for use only on a
direct modem connection to the Internet. Disable and un- install all
other firewalls while troubleshooting.

2. Protocols: Use only one for File and Printer Sharing. If the
network needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing
from all but one of them.

3. NetBIOS over TCP/IP: Make sure that it's enabled on all computers.

If that doesn't solve the problem, please reply to this message in the
news group (not by E-mail) with more information to help other people
understand the problem.

How are you seeing the win2000 machine from XP? How are you trying to
access it shared folders? What exactly happens when you do it? If
there's an error message, what is its complete text?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
.
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Answer to the above questions:
I see the w2000 machine from XP windows explorer. When I
double click on the computer name of the w2000 machine, I
get an error message box "you do not have permissions,
check with administrator ... etc." I don't see the shared
folders under the w2000 machine.

Latest update:
I took your advice to enable NETBIOS over TCP/IP and now
my w2000 machine can see and access the shared folders on
the XP machine. The only problem I have now it's trying
to access the w2000 machine from my XP machine.

Thanks for your help and the web site you refer me to has
alot of useful information. I think I am very close in
solving this problem! Any more suggestions???
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"Tony" said:
Answer to the above questions:
I see the w2000 machine from XP windows explorer. When I
double click on the computer name of the w2000 machine, I
get an error message box "you do not have permissions,
check with administrator ... etc." I don't see the shared
folders under the w2000 machine.

Latest update:
I took your advice to enable NETBIOS over TCP/IP and now
my w2000 machine can see and access the shared folders on
the XP machine. The only problem I have now it's trying
to access the w2000 machine from my XP machine.

Thanks for your help and the web site you refer me to has
alot of useful information. I think I am very close in
solving this problem! Any more suggestions???
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I assume that you enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP on both computers' local
area network connections.

Please try some tests on the XP computer. Open a command prompt
window and enter these lines. What are the results?

ping <w2000 machine's IP address>
ping <w2000 machine's computer name>
net view
ipconfig /all

On the "ipconfig" command, the main thing to check is the "Node Type".
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
-----Original Message-----
I assume that you enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP on both computers' local
area network connections.

Please try some tests on the XP computer. Open a command prompt
window and enter these lines. What are the results?

ping <w2000 machine's IP address>
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C:>ping 192.168.123.115

Pinging 192.168.123.115 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.123.115: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.123.115: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.123.115: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.123.115: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.123.115:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
ping <w2000 machine's computer name>
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C:>ping software
Ping request could not find host software. Please check
the name and try again.
net view
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C:>net view
Server Name Remark

----------------------------------------------------------
\\SOFTWARE
\\SPYRO Computer Room PC
The command completed successfully.
ipconfig /all
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C:>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Spyro
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : cable.rcn.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce
MCP Networking Control
ler
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-ED-8E-10-
18
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.109
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.172.3.8
207.172.3.9
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday,
August 02, 2003 9:42:46 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday,
September 13, 2003 1:42:46
AM
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"Tony" said:
C:>ping 192.168.123.115

Pinging 192.168.123.115 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.123.115: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.123.115: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.123.115: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.123.115: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.123.115:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


C:>ping software
Ping request could not find host software. Please check
the name and try again.


C:>net view
Server Name Remark

----------------------------------------------------------
\\SOFTWARE
\\SPYRO Computer Room PC
The command completed successfully.


C:>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Spyro
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : cable.rcn.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-ED-8E-10-18
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.109
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.172.3.8
207.172.3.9
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:42:46 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, September 13, 2003 1:42:46 AM
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Thanks for posting those results, Tony. Everything looks normal to me
except that pinging the w2000 machine by name failed. That usually
indicates a problem with NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT).

Please check again to be sure that it's enabled, not default, on both
computers:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right click the local area network connection and click Properties.
3. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
4. Click Advanced.
5. Click WINS.
6. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

Look in Event Viewer on both computers for any messages about NetBT:
click Start | Run, type "compmgmt.msc" in the box, and click OK. For
more information, see:

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308427
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
"Tony" said:
Steve,

I have solve the problem and it's working great.

I performed all your the suggestions and it did not work
at first. I read another message in this newsgroup where
a person had a similar problem. I installed NETBEUI
protocol from my XP CD and now it's working. When I
access the W2K computer, I have to login as a user the
first time and then I can see all the shared folders.

I understand that microsoft does not support NETBEUI in
XP. Don't know why???

Thanks for all your help.

Tony
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If adding NetBEUI to XP solved the problem, then the other computer
was already configured to use NetBEUI for file and printer sharing.
The computers have to use the same protocol to communicate with each
other. If you speak only English and I speak only French, we can't
communicate.

English is fine. French is fine. NetBEUI is fine. TCP/IP is fine.

Microsoft made NetBEUI the default protocol in Windows 95, and many
people still mistakenly believe that Windows networking requires
NetBEUI. It doesn't, and it never did. Even Windows 95 can use
TCP/IP. Starting with Windows 98, TCP/IP has been the default
protocol in all versions of Windows.

For some reason that I don't understand, some people who think that
NetBEUI is necessary act as if it's a religious issue, and they lash
out violently at anyone who challenges their mistaken belief.

The Internet and large corporate networks use TCP/IP, so it has become
the primary network protocol. Recognizing this, Microsoft dropped
support for NetBEUI in Windows XP. I expect that they'll drop NetBEUI
completely in the next version of Windows.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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