Faulty CPU?

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Could do with some thoughts/advice please.

Currently running a
Gigabyte GA7VTXE with Athlon 1333 266
IBM Deskstar 120Gb (I Know don't tell me!)
Maxtor 40Gb
Geoforce MX2 400 64Mb
Pioneer A104
LG 16x CDRW
256Mb DDR Ram

For the past few months the PC has been freezing repeatedly, heard that
before.

By process of elimination it is not
Hard Drives, Memory or Graphics Card. (Swapped them all out for old bits
and it still froze)

The processor has been running between 60 and 68 degrees, but freezes at
any temperature between that.

I can get it to freeze by running processor heavy applications such as
Video conversion.

I have now set the Mobo jumpers to 100 Hz from 133Hz, voila. No
freezes. The processor is now running around 58 - 62 Degrees.

Question is is this a heat problem or a knackered processor?

I'm tempted to jump in and get a new Athlon XP, but if it is heat I
could have the same problem.

If the processor is knackered would it work if it was running slower
(Now running as a 1000 rather than 1333).

Any ideas what temp I should be getting.

I ran the PC at 133, took the side panel and pointed a bloody great fan
in the side of the PC to bring thw whole tmepertaure down and it still
froze, which suggest to me that it is a faulty CPU, but if anyone has
any other ideas or can support my thoughts I would be greatful.

Thanks.
 
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Billy Whizz stood up, at show-n-tell, and said:
Could do with some thoughts/advice please.

Currently running a
Gigabyte GA7VTXE with Athlon 1333 266
IBM Deskstar 120Gb (I Know don't tell me!)
Maxtor 40Gb
Geoforce MX2 400 64Mb
Pioneer A104
LG 16x CDRW
256Mb DDR Ram

For the past few months the PC has been freezing repeatedly, heard
that before.

By process of elimination it is not
Hard Drives, Memory or Graphics Card. (Swapped them all out for old
bits and it still froze)

The processor has been running between 60 and 68 degrees, but freezes
at any temperature between that.

I can get it to freeze by running processor heavy applications such as
Video conversion.

I have now set the Mobo jumpers to 100 Hz from 133Hz, voila. No
freezes. The processor is now running around 58 - 62 Degrees.

Question is is this a heat problem or a knackered processor?
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Overheating is very obvious, in one way: rebooting. I'd say you have a bad
CPU. Hard freezes, always, make me think that first (memory seems to
manifest itself in application errors). I think if you replace the CPU, you
will see problems disappear. Besides, most motherboards today will sound a
very loud siren, if it's overheating. Just before shutting the bitch down.

I'm tempted to jump in and get a new Athlon XP, but if it is heat I
could have the same problem.
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Does not read like overheating.

If the processor is knackered would it work if it was running slower
(Now running as a 1000 rather than 1333).
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Bumping the FSB down is, always, an option.

Any ideas what temp I should be getting.
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Untaxed: 30-40degC
Taxed: 50-60degC

I'd suspect both your motherboard sensors and the software you are using to
monitor. Those temps seem awfuly high. Unless you have a crappy heatsink.
 
Billy said:
Could do with some thoughts/advice please.

Currently running a
Gigabyte GA7VTXE with Athlon 1333 266
IBM Deskstar 120Gb (I Know don't tell me!)
Maxtor 40Gb
Geoforce MX2 400 64Mb
Pioneer A104
LG 16x CDRW
256Mb DDR Ram

For the past few months the PC has been freezing repeatedly, heard that
before.

By process of elimination it is not
Hard Drives, Memory or Graphics Card. (Swapped them all out for old bits
and it still froze)

The processor has been running between 60 and 68 degrees, but freezes at
any temperature between that.

I can get it to freeze by running processor heavy applications such as
Video conversion.

I have now set the Mobo jumpers to 100 Hz from 133Hz, voila. No
freezes. The processor is now running around 58 - 62 Degrees.

Question is is this a heat problem or a knackered processor?

I'm tempted to jump in and get a new Athlon XP, but if it is heat I
could have the same problem.

If the processor is knackered would it work if it was running slower
(Now running as a 1000 rather than 1333).

Any ideas what temp I should be getting.

I ran the PC at 133, took the side panel and pointed a bloody great fan
in the side of the PC to bring thw whole tmepertaure down and it still
froze, which suggest to me that it is a faulty CPU, but if anyone has
any other ideas or can support my thoughts I would be greatful.

Thanks.
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I think you'll find the problem is software, not hardware. Which
operating system are you using?

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"spodosaurus" wrote
I think you'll find the problem is software, not hardware. Which
operating system are you using?
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XP! Tried that though, reformatted and reinstalled and still the same
problems. Still running fine at 100 FSB currently though.

I have a Coolermaster HHC-L61 fan, the nice lovely quiet one! Maybe my
install of it was crap? Replaced it recently but the PC was running before
for ages OK then began to freeze with the old fan too ( A thermaltake
noisy!) so doesn't seem to be that.

Looks like the CPU then I guess? Unless you have any other ideas

Thanks guys.
 
Billy said:
"spodosaurus" wrote




XP! Tried that though, reformatted and reinstalled and still the same
problems. Still running fine at 100 FSB currently though.

I have a Coolermaster HHC-L61 fan, the nice lovely quiet one! Maybe my
install of it was crap? Replaced it recently but the PC was running before
for ages OK then began to freeze with the old fan too ( A thermaltake
noisy!) so doesn't seem to be that.

Looks like the CPU then I guess? Unless you have any other ideas

Thanks guys.
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Hmmm...yes, it is looking like the CPU. I expected you to say WinME or
some such for the OS. As strontium pointed out, those temps are a
little high considering they are sensor temps and not chip thermal diode
temps. Try getting the heat down 10C and see how that goes. However,
if you're looking for an excuse to upgrade your CPU, well then, you may
have one :-)

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Are you registered as a bone marrow donor? You regenerate what you
donate. You are offered the chance to donate only if you match a person
on the recipient list. Call your local Red Cross and ask about
registering to be a bone marrow donor.

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Billy Whizz said:
Could do with some thoughts/advice please.

Currently running a
Gigabyte GA7VTXE with Athlon 1333 266
IBM Deskstar 120Gb (I Know don't tell me!)
Maxtor 40Gb
Geoforce MX2 400 64Mb
Pioneer A104
LG 16x CDRW
256Mb DDR Ram

For the past few months the PC has been freezing repeatedly, heard that
before.

By process of elimination it is not
Hard Drives, Memory or Graphics Card. (Swapped them all out for old bits
and it still froze)

The processor has been running between 60 and 68 degrees, but freezes at
any temperature between that.

I can get it to freeze by running processor heavy applications such as
Video conversion.

I have now set the Mobo jumpers to 100 Hz from 133Hz, voila. No
freezes. The processor is now running around 58 - 62 Degrees.

Question is is this a heat problem or a knackered processor?

I'm tempted to jump in and get a new Athlon XP, but if it is heat I
could have the same problem.

If the processor is knackered would it work if it was running slower
(Now running as a 1000 rather than 1333).

Any ideas what temp I should be getting.

I ran the PC at 133, took the side panel and pointed a bloody great fan
in the side of the PC to bring thw whole tmepertaure down and it still
froze, which suggest to me that it is a faulty CPU, but if anyone has
any other ideas or can support my thoughts I would be greatful.

Thanks.
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though i could be wrong i really think the problem is heat!
you can open the case and blow a good fan directly on the cpu and try to get
the temp down and see if that cures the problem
i had a similar problem
and eventually cured it by mouting a 2" case fan which blew directly onto
the
cpu.
 
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