FAT32/NTFS conflict... won't run exe files over the network

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Hi All,

I have recently reformatted one PC in my peer to peer network and
reinstalled its win2k
on NTFS (previosuly all of the PC's were FAT32 / Win2k).
It seemed to work at first, until I tried to execute EXE files over
the network from the NTFS PC.

Whenever I try to execute a file over the network (i.e. a file
residing on another PC with FAT32) it hangs the NTFS PC with no Error
message (simply freezes up), while other PC's that still have FAT32
execute this file without a problem. The NTFS pc has a new WD hard
drive with no errors. Downloaded all patches (SP4, windows update
etc).

This happens with any EXE file I try to run this way. The PC's are
networked through a simple router and wired with 100mbps LAN cables.
The drives are mapped with the NET USE /persistent:no upon boot, the
way they were before (when all PC's were FAT32).
I have user accounts for each PC (no drive is shared to the
everyone).

I'm going straight back to FAT32, but any hints of what's going on?
 
When sharing drives/ files over a network connection, the pc's don't read
each other's file system format. They simply present a list of files for the
other to see and use, hence the pc or operating system's file system format
makes no difference.

Ask the application developer if this method of execution is supported.

NTFS is the native file system of Windows NT/2000/XP/2003/XP and is always
recommended

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
When sharing drives/ files over a network connection, the pc's don't read
each other's file system format. They simply present a list of files for the
other to see and use, hence the pc or operating system's file system format
makes no difference.

Ask the application developer if this method of execution is supported.

NTFSis the native file system of Windows NT/2000/XP/2003/XP and is always
recommended

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]http://www.microsoft.com/protect



Hi All,
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I have recently reformatted one PC in my peer to peer network and
reinstalled its win2k
onNTFS(previosuly all of the PC's were FAT32 / Win2k).
It seemed to work at first, until I tried to executeEXEfiles over
the network from theNTFSPC.
Click to expand...
Whenever I try to execute a file over the network (i.e. a file
residing on another PC with FAT32) it hangs theNTFSPC with no Error
message (simply freezes up), while other PC's that still have FAT32
execute this file without a problem. TheNTFSpc has a new WD hard
drive with no errors. Downloaded all patches (SP4, windows update
etc).
Click to expand...
This happens with anyEXEfile I try to run this way. The PC's are
networked through a simple router and wired with 100mbps LAN cables.
The drives are mapped with the NET USE /persistent:no upon boot, the
way they were before (when all PC's were FAT32).
I have user accounts for each PC (no drive is shared to the
everyone).
Click to expand...
I'm going straight back to FAT32, but any hints of what's going on?- Hide quoted text -
Click to expand...

- Show quoted text -
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Umm thanks for replying! there is no specific developer- any exe I run
hangs, even shareware files etc.
I know NTFS is the recommended file system, but If I go back to FAT32
and the problems disappear,
won't it mean that its not recommended to my particular setup? (though
I can't see what's so exotic about it- I don't have any fancy
hardware, plain vanilla IDE and intel motherboards, no partition
compression or anything like that...
the only thing is that I do use relatively large FAT32 partitions
(80GB-120GB).
I'm a bit wary of running a partition utlility to convert back to
FAT32 - I have everything backed up but even if it works will it leave
the FAT32 partition in good order and as efficiently as a fresh FAT32
install?
(eyes rolling to the ceiling, what possesed me to select NTFS in the
setup da di da
thanks...

Thanks
 
Most application installs copy various DLL's and other support library files
to the computer then register them so that the operating system and
application are aware of the location and available functions within them.
So generally running an EXE in the manner you describe is not supported or
expected to work. The file system in your case has nothing to do with it.
The local computer has no way of knowing or caring what file system is on a
remote computer.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
It also happens when trying to run setup.exe of applications that have
always installed fine from networked FAT32 machines. Additionally,
when I try to do a "copy" on an exe file, even a tiny one, and then
paste it to a FAT32 machine, this takes 1-2 minutes to respond after
the initial 'copy' (then the copy process itself takes a few seconds!)

Thanks
 
Nothing really to do with the file system. The latter may have to do with
incorrect DNS and or WINS configuration.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
Nothing really to do with the file system. The latter may have to do with
incorrect DNS and or WINS configuration.
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Well I'll be greatful if you can help me solve this issue once and for
all, I know little about it except I have set everything to automatic
with DHCP, (3com router updated to latest firmware).


I don't have internet connection sharing or anything exotic. Simple
3com 3CRWE554G72T router.

In the local area network properties I have three protocols:

Client for MS networks
File and Printer sharing
TCP/IP

In the General tab of the NIC TCP/IP I have:
everything set to automatic

In 'Advanced':
In the IP Settings tab:
DHCP enabled
no default gatways set

In the DNS tab:
No DNS server addresses set (DHCP is enabled)
Append primary and connection specific DNS suffixes turned on
Append parent suffixes of the primary DNS suffix turned on
Append these DNS suffixes... Turned off

Register this connection's addresses in DNS turned on
Use this connection's DNS suffix in DNS registration... turned off

In WINS I have:
Enable LMHOSTS turned on, and I set the LMHOSTS files to have an entry
for each workgroup computer name and IP

Enable Netbios over TCP/IP turned on (though I'm not sure if this is
correct- I have mapped drives with passwords anyway so I don't think I
really need it).

In options tab I have:
the standard settings, IP security with 'Do not use IPSEC'
and TCP/IP Filtering turned off.


I noticed that in XP systems (I don't have any though) there is an
additional network protocol called QOS packet scheduler, it can also
be added in Win2k, should I add it? (my particular 3COM router doesn't
have built in QOS).

I shall be eternally greatful for any tips... probably this problem is
also connected to web browsing that on my PC's each page, after typing
the URL, it takes 2-3 seconds on 'looking up' something before it is
shown.
In other people's setups I see it occurs instantly, even with slower
internet connection than mine...

Thanks
 
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