Fastest way to append text to a TextBox

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Phill W.

VB.Net 2005 SP1
Windows Forms Application

What's the fastest way to append text to a [Rich]TextBox?

I have an application that monitors data written to text [log] files.
It needs to scan some fairly hefty files (typically ~15MB) and scanning
the file pulling out the rows I want (typically ~10,000 of them) takes
/comfortably/ under three seconds. In normal usage, this application
will "follow" the end of these files as they are written to, so it needs
to be able to scan [the end of] the file and update the screen in "real
time".

However if, as I find them, I take each of these lines and append them
to the end of a TextBox on a Form, the process slows to a crawl,
red-lines my CPU and, even if I limit the TextBox to just 30KB of text,
it takes over 90 seconds to complete.
(This will eventually be a RichTextBox because the output lines will
need to be colour-coded as well, but I'm trying to start simple).


So, how can I get these lines into my TextBox /faster/?

Or, rather, why is updating the control /so/ slow, compared to hacking
strings around in memory?


OK, OK, normally, even /I'd/ be the first to say

"who /needs/ to see 10,000 lines of data?"

but, I can think of at least three of my users who will want [the
opportunity] to see every single one of them.

I have to say I was stunned at how fast VB.Net crunched its way through
the data, but if getting that data up onto the screen is going to be
/this/ slow, it's hardly worthwhile doing the "upgrade".

My "appending" code:

Private Sub AppendText(ByVal sText As String)
With Me.TextBox1
Dim iLen As Integer = .Text.Length + sText.Length

If (iLen >= (30000 * 1.1)) Then
Dim iTrimmer As Integer = iLen - 30000
Dim iPos As Integer = .Text.IndexOf(vbCrLf, iTrimmer)
.SelectionStart = 0
.SelectionLength = iPos + 1
.SelectedText = String.Empty
End If

.SelectionStart = .Text.Length
.SelectedText = sText & vbCrLf

.SelectionStart = .Text.Length

End With
End Sub

(Without the trimming bit, it's even more, /unbelievably/ slow; I got
fed up waiting after five minutes.)

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Phill W.
 
Update the rtb in with batches of lines, not single lines. The performance
behavior you don't like will come with any control, eg updating a heavily
loaded list box one line at a time will crawl too.
 
let me ask this....

10,000 lines in 3 seconds ... that is 3,333 per second ... and you want this
real time ... why? I have yet to see a speed reader achive this type of
performance.

Write logical blocks or write to text control every second.

When you update a 'control' there is much more going on than simple string
concatinaction -> the visual part of the process must be considered ... and
so on.


Jeff.
 
Phill,

You tell us about multiple lines while your code is in my idea for a single
string

First try to find out what makes the delay, is it about the writing to the
screen, or the creation of the added text.

As it is about the latter, then try a stringbuilder in between to create a
strings which ends with VBCRLF (probably automaticly because you retrieve
strings)

Cor
 
Have you tried just setting the text, not setting the selection ? Typically
setting selections is incredibly slow. Sometimes you can speed things up by
disabling the control, but that unusually also adds another lot of flicker.
For the RichTextBox, I use the COM interfaces and set the textranges.
 
Steve said:
' How about 10,000 lines, 5 seconds:
Click to expand...

<snip>

Steve,

/Very/ nice!

If I truncate the StringBuilder after it's transferred its data into the
TextBox, it's even faster still (your 10,000 lines display in under a
second)!
OK, I may not get all the benefit of this (my colour coding the output
means I'll have to group lines of the /same/ colour together into a
single RichTextBox update) but, even so, it's hugely faster than before.

Many Thanks,
Phill W.
 
Cor said:
You tell us about multiple lines while your code is in my idea for a
single string
Click to expand...

You are correct. The program would normally only deal with a handful of
lines but, when the servers get very heavily loaded, the current version
of this program (in VB6) gets swamped by the amount of incoming data.
First try to find out what makes the delay, is it about the writing to
the screen, or the creation of the added text.
Click to expand...

Dealing with the lines as Strings is lightning fast; it's adding them
sequentially to the TextBox that slows to a crawl.
As it is about the latter, then try a stringbuilder in between to create
a strings which ends with VBCRLF (probably automaticly because you
retrieve strings)
Click to expand...

I keep forgetting how quick StringBuilders are.

Batching the [TextBox] changes together improves things dramatically.

Regards,
Phill W.
 
Bill said:
Have you tried just setting the text, not setting the selection ?
Click to expand...

For a TextBox (all the same colour) I've tried this and it's a lot
faster. For the finished application, though, I need to use a
RichTextBox so that I can colour-code the displayed lines. If I set the
Text property on one of those, I lose all the previous colouration.
Typically setting selections is incredibly slow. Sometimes you can
speed things up by disabling the control, but that unusually also adds
another lot of flicker.
Click to expand...

I hadn't thought of that, but then I'd rather not add the flickering
either. Unless I can sell it as a "feature"... ;-)
For the RichTextBox, I use the COM interfaces and set the textranges.
Click to expand...

Can you tell me more? Or where to look?

Would these interfaces work even with the supplied [.Net] RichTextBox
Control? Or is /that/ just a wrapper around the underlying COM one?

Regards,
Phill W.
 
Phill W. said:
Bill said:
Have you tried just setting the text, not setting the selection ?
Click to expand...

For a TextBox (all the same colour) I've tried this and it's a lot faster.
For the finished application, though, I need to use a RichTextBox so that
I can colour-code the displayed lines. If I set the Text property on one
of those, I lose all the previous colouration.
Typically setting selections is incredibly slow. Sometimes you can speed
things up by disabling the control, but that unusually also adds another
lot of flicker.
Click to expand...

I hadn't thought of that, but then I'd rather not add the flickering
either. Unless I can sell it as a "feature"... ;-)
For the RichTextBox, I use the COM interfaces and set the textranges.
Click to expand...

Can you tell me more? Or where to look?

Would these interfaces work even with the supplied [.Net] RichTextBox
Control? Or is /that/ just a wrapper around the underlying COM one?
Click to expand...

Download the VB Snippet Editor. I use the COM interfaces of the .NET
richtextbox in that to color as you type. You may find it provides much of
the code colouring you are after.
http://www.billmccarthy.com/Projects/Snippet_Editor/default.html
 
put it into a database and use analysis services.

or just filter for the data you _REALLY_ want to see.
 
I am also looking for a fast way to put 10,000 plus lines into a text box and found this thread.

My application is reading a text file and counting unique words. The results (using regex and LINQ) look like this:

the 878
help 40
vb.net 2
etc.

I do not understand the comment:

"If I truncate the StringBuilder after it's transferred its data into the TextBox, it's even faster still (your 10,000 lines display in under a second)!"

I want that 1 second for 10,000 lines!

This is an old (2008) thread, but hopefully someone can help.

Thanks.

Bill




Phill W. wrote:

Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
03-Apr-08

Steve Gerrard wrote

<snip

Steve

/Very/ nice

If I truncate the StringBuilder after it's transferred its data into the
TextBox, it's even faster still (your 10,000 lines display in under a
second)
OK, I may not get all the benefit of this (my colour coding the output
means I'll have to group lines of the /same/ colour together into a
single RichTextBox update) but, even so, it's hugely faster than before

Many Thanks
Phill W.

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
VB.Net 2005 SP
Windows Forms Applicatio

What's the fastest way to append text to a [Rich]TextBox

I have an application that monitors data written to text [log] files.
It needs to scan some fairly hefty files (typically ~15MB) and scanning
the file pulling out the rows I want (typically ~10,000 of them) takes
/comfortably/ under three seconds. In normal usage, this application
will "follow" the end of these files as they are written to, so it needs
to be able to scan [the end of] the file and update the screen in "real
time"

However if, as I find them, I take each of these lines and append them
to the end of a TextBox on a Form, the process slows to a crawl,
red-lines my CPU and, even if I limit the TextBox to just 30KB of text,
it takes over 90 seconds to complete
(This will eventually be a RichTextBox because the output lines will
need to be colour-coded as well, but I'm trying to start simple)

So, how can I get these lines into my TextBox /faster/

Or, rather, why is updating the control /so/ slow, compared to hacking
strings around in memory

OK, OK, normally, even /I'd/ be the first to sa

"who /needs/ to see 10,000 lines of data?

but, I can think of at least three of my users who will want [the
opportunity] to see every single one of them

I have to say I was stunned at how fast VB.Net crunched its way through
the data, but if getting that data up onto the screen is going to be
/this/ slow, it's hardly worthwhile doing the "upgrade"

My "appending" code

Private Sub AppendText(ByVal sText As String
With Me.TextBox
Dim iLen As Integer = .Text.Length + sText.Lengt

If (iLen >= (30000 * 1.1)) The
Dim iTrimmer As Integer = iLen - 3000
Dim iPos As Integer = .Text.IndexOf(vbCrLf, iTrimmer
.SelectionStart =
.SelectionLength = iPos +
.SelectedText = String.Empt
End I

.SelectionStart = .Text.Lengt
.SelectedText = sText & vbCrL

.SelectionStart = .Text.Lengt

End Wit
End Su

(Without the trimming bit, it's even more, /unbelievably/ slow; I got
fed up waiting after five minutes.

Any suggestions

TIA
Phill W.

Update the rtb in with batches of lines, not single lines.
Update the rtb in with batches of lines, not single lines. The performance
behavior you don't like will come with any control, eg updating a heavily
loaded list box one line at a time will crawl too

:

let me ask this....10,000 lines in 3 seconds ... that is 3,333 per second ...
let me ask this...

10,000 lines in 3 seconds ... that is 3,333 per second ... and you want this
real time ... why? I have yet to see a speed reader achive this type of
performance

Write logical blocks or write to text control every second

When you update a 'control' there is much more going on than simple string
concatinaction -> the visual part of the process must be considered ... and
so on.


Jeff.


Phill W.
Phill W. wrote:

' How about 10,000 lines, 5 seconds:

Private Sub Button1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, _
ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
Dim n As Integer
Dim s As String = "Hello, World, how is it going these days, " _
+ "is this quick enough for you?" + vbCrLf

Dim sb As New System.Text.StringBuilder

Dim t As Date = Now

With Me.TextBox1
For n = 1 To 10000
sb.Append(n.ToString("0000") + " ")
sb.Append(s)
If n Mod 500 = 0 Then
.Text = sb.ToString
.SelectionStart = .Text.Length
.SelectedText = " "
Me.Text = n.ToString
My.Application.DoEvents()
End If
Next n
.Text = sb.ToString
.SelectionStart = .Text.Length
.SelectedText = " "
Me.Text = "Done: " + (Now - t).TotalSeconds.ToString("#,0.00")
End With

End Sub

Phill,You tell us about multiple lines while your code is in my idea for a
Phill,

You tell us about multiple lines while your code is in my idea for a single
string

First try to find out what makes the delay, is it about the writing to the
screen, or the creation of the added text.

As it is about the latter, then try a stringbuilder in between to create a
strings which ends with VBCRLF (probably automaticly because you retrieve
strings)

Cor

Have you tried just setting the text, not setting the selection ?
Have you tried just setting the text, not setting the selection ? Typically
setting selections is incredibly slow. Sometimes you can speed things up by
disabling the control, but that unusually also adds another lot of flicker.
For the RichTextBox, I use the COM interfaces and set the textranges.




Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
Steve Gerrard wrote:

<snip>

Steve,

/Very/ nice!

If I truncate the StringBuilder after it's transferred its data into the
TextBox, it's even faster still (your 10,000 lines display in under a
second)!
OK, I may not get all the benefit of this (my colour coding the output
means I'll have to group lines of the /same/ colour together into a
single RichTextBox update) but, even so, it's hugely faster than before.

Many Thanks,
Phill W.

Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
Cor Ligthert[MVP] wrote:


You are correct. The program would normally only deal with a handful of
lines but, when the servers get very heavily loaded, the current version
of this program (in VB6) gets swamped by the amount of incoming data.


Dealing with the lines as Strings is lightning fast; it's adding them
sequentially to the TextBox that slows to a crawl.


I keep forgetting how quick StringBuilders are.

Batching the [TextBox] changes together improves things dramatically.

Regards,
Phill W.

Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
Bill McCarthy wrote:

For a TextBox (all the same colour) I've tried this and it's a lot
faster. For the finished application, though, I need to use a
RichTextBox so that I can colour-code the displayed lines. If I set the
Text property on one of those, I lose all the previous colouration.


I hadn't thought of that, but then I'd rather not add the flickering
either. Unless I can sell it as a "feature"... ;-)


Can you tell me more? Or where to look?

Would these interfaces work even with the supplied [.Net] RichTextBox
Control? Or is /that/ just a wrapper around the underlying COM one?

Regards,
Phill W.

Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox

Download the VB Snippet Editor. I use the COM interfaces of the .NET
richtextbox in that to color as you type. You may find it provides much of
the code colouring you are after.
http://www.billmccarthy.com/Projects/Snippet_Editor/default.html

put it into a database and use analysis services.
put it into a database and use analysis services.

or just filter for the data you _REALLY_ want to see.



wrote:


Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
XmlDocument Caching / SQL Server nText
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorial...b9-a82e85f2a08c/xmldocument-caching--sql.aspx
 
I think the point of the thread was to say that, instead of updating the
textbox.text 10,000 times (which casues 10,000 new string objects to be
placed into memory and causes the textbox control to have to update 10,000
times, it's better to prepare the string in a StringBuilder and then update
the textbox.text just once with the stringbuilder's internal string.

-Scott


I am also looking for a fast way to put 10,000 plus lines into a text box
and found this thread.

My application is reading a text file and counting unique words. The
results (using regex and LINQ) look like this:

the 878
help 40
vb.net 2
etc.

I do not understand the comment:

"If I truncate the StringBuilder after it's transferred its data into the
TextBox, it's even faster still (your 10,000 lines display in under a
second)!"

I want that 1 second for 10,000 lines!

This is an old (2008) thread, but hopefully someone can help.

Thanks.

Bill




Phill W. wrote:

Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
03-Apr-08

Steve Gerrard wrote:

<snip>

Steve,

/Very/ nice!

If I truncate the StringBuilder after it's transferred its data into the
TextBox, it's even faster still (your 10,000 lines display in under a
second)!
OK, I may not get all the benefit of this (my colour coding the output
means I'll have to group lines of the /same/ colour together into a
single RichTextBox update) but, even so, it's hugely faster than before.

Many Thanks,
Phill W.

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
VB.Net 2005 SP1
Windows Forms Application

What's the fastest way to append text to a [Rich]TextBox?

I have an application that monitors data written to text [log] files.
It needs to scan some fairly hefty files (typically ~15MB) and scanning
the file pulling out the rows I want (typically ~10,000 of them) takes
/comfortably/ under three seconds. In normal usage, this application
will "follow" the end of these files as they are written to, so it needs
to be able to scan [the end of] the file and update the screen in "real
time".

However if, as I find them, I take each of these lines and append them
to the end of a TextBox on a Form, the process slows to a crawl,
red-lines my CPU and, even if I limit the TextBox to just 30KB of text,
it takes over 90 seconds to complete.
(This will eventually be a RichTextBox because the output lines will
need to be colour-coded as well, but I'm trying to start simple).


So, how can I get these lines into my TextBox /faster/?

Or, rather, why is updating the control /so/ slow, compared to hacking
strings around in memory?


OK, OK, normally, even /I'd/ be the first to say

"who /needs/ to see 10,000 lines of data?"

but, I can think of at least three of my users who will want [the
opportunity] to see every single one of them.

I have to say I was stunned at how fast VB.Net crunched its way through
the data, but if getting that data up onto the screen is going to be
/this/ slow, it's hardly worthwhile doing the "upgrade".

My "appending" code:

Private Sub AppendText(ByVal sText As String)
With Me.TextBox1
Dim iLen As Integer = .Text.Length + sText.Length

If (iLen >= (30000 * 1.1)) Then
Dim iTrimmer As Integer = iLen - 30000
Dim iPos As Integer = .Text.IndexOf(vbCrLf, iTrimmer)
.SelectionStart = 0
.SelectionLength = iPos + 1
.SelectedText = String.Empty
End If

.SelectionStart = .Text.Length
.SelectedText = sText & vbCrLf

.SelectionStart = .Text.Length

End With
End Sub

(Without the trimming bit, it's even more, /unbelievably/ slow; I got
fed up waiting after five minutes.)

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Phill W.

Update the rtb in with batches of lines, not single lines.
Update the rtb in with batches of lines, not single lines. The
performance
behavior you don't like will come with any control, eg updating a heavily
loaded list box one line at a time will crawl too.

:

let me ask this....10,000 lines in 3 seconds ... that is 3,333 per second
...
let me ask this....

10,000 lines in 3 seconds ... that is 3,333 per second ... and you want
this
real time ... why? I have yet to see a speed reader achive this type of
performance.

Write logical blocks or write to text control every second.

When you update a 'control' there is much more going on than simple string
concatinaction -> the visual part of the process must be considered ...
and
so on.


Jeff.


Phill W.
Phill W. wrote:

' How about 10,000 lines, 5 seconds:

Private Sub Button1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, _
ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
Dim n As Integer
Dim s As String = "Hello, World, how is it going these days, " _
+ "is this quick enough for you?" + vbCrLf

Dim sb As New System.Text.StringBuilder

Dim t As Date = Now

With Me.TextBox1
For n = 1 To 10000
sb.Append(n.ToString("0000") + " ")
sb.Append(s)
If n Mod 500 = 0 Then
.Text = sb.ToString
.SelectionStart = .Text.Length
.SelectedText = " "
Me.Text = n.ToString
My.Application.DoEvents()
End If
Next n
.Text = sb.ToString
.SelectionStart = .Text.Length
.SelectedText = " "
Me.Text = "Done: " + (Now - t).TotalSeconds.ToString("#,0.00")
End With

End Sub

Phill,You tell us about multiple lines while your code is in my idea for a
Phill,

You tell us about multiple lines while your code is in my idea for a
single
string

First try to find out what makes the delay, is it about the writing to the
screen, or the creation of the added text.

As it is about the latter, then try a stringbuilder in between to create a
strings which ends with VBCRLF (probably automaticly because you retrieve
strings)

Cor

Have you tried just setting the text, not setting the selection ?
Have you tried just setting the text, not setting the selection ?
Typically
setting selections is incredibly slow. Sometimes you can speed things up
by
disabling the control, but that unusually also adds another lot of
flicker.
For the RichTextBox, I use the COM interfaces and set the textranges.




Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
Steve Gerrard wrote:

<snip>

Steve,

/Very/ nice!

If I truncate the StringBuilder after it's transferred its data into the
TextBox, it's even faster still (your 10,000 lines display in under a
second)!
OK, I may not get all the benefit of this (my colour coding the output
means I'll have to group lines of the /same/ colour together into a
single RichTextBox update) but, even so, it's hugely faster than before.

Many Thanks,
Phill W.

Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
Cor Ligthert[MVP] wrote:


You are correct. The program would normally only deal with a handful of
lines but, when the servers get very heavily loaded, the current version
of this program (in VB6) gets swamped by the amount of incoming data.


Dealing with the lines as Strings is lightning fast; it's adding them
sequentially to the TextBox that slows to a crawl.


I keep forgetting how quick StringBuilders are.

Batching the [TextBox] changes together improves things dramatically.

Regards,
Phill W.

Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox
Bill McCarthy wrote:

For a TextBox (all the same colour) I've tried this and it's a lot
faster. For the finished application, though, I need to use a
RichTextBox so that I can colour-code the displayed lines. If I set the
Text property on one of those, I lose all the previous colouration.


I hadn't thought of that, but then I'd rather not add the flickering
either. Unless I can sell it as a "feature"... ;-)


Can you tell me more? Or where to look?

Would these interfaces work even with the supplied [.Net] RichTextBox
Control? Or is /that/ just a wrapper around the underlying COM one?

Regards,
Phill W.

Re: Fastest way to append text to a TextBox

Download the VB Snippet Editor. I use the COM interfaces of the .NET
richtextbox in that to color as you type. You may find it provides much
of
the code colouring you are after.
http://www.billmccarthy.com/Projects/Snippet_Editor/default.html

put it into a database and use analysis services.
put it into a database and use analysis services.

or just filter for the data you _REALLY_ want to see.



wrote:


Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
XmlDocument Caching / SQL Server nText
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorial...b9-a82e85f2a08c/xmldocument-caching--sql.aspx
Click to expand...
 
in .NET the TextBox control now has an AppendText(text as String) method which is fast - hammering this method doesn't have a terribly severe effect on performance as the TextBox control will real-time update until a certain performance bottleneck is reached and then it delays update until resources are available to refresh the control - the underlying code can still quickly append text to the textbox without it holding it up.

Nick
VB.Net 2005 SP1
Windows Forms Application

What's the fastest way to append text to a [Rich]TextBox?

I have an application that monitors data written to text [log] files.
It needs to scan some fairly hefty files (typically ~15MB) and scanning
the file pulling out the rows I want (typically ~10,000 of them) takes
/comfortably/ under three seconds. In normal usage, this application
will "follow" the end of these files as they are written to, so it needs
to be able to scan [the end of] the file and update the screen in "real
time".

However if, as I find them, I take each of these lines and append them
to the end of a TextBox on a Form, the process slows to a crawl,
red-lines my CPU and, even if I limit the TextBox to just 30KB of text,
it takes over 90 seconds to complete.
(This will eventually be a RichTextBox because the output lines will
need to be colour-coded as well, but I'm trying to start simple).


So, how can I get these lines into my TextBox /faster/?

Or, rather, why is updating the control /so/ slow, compared to hacking
strings around in memory?


OK, OK, normally, even /I'd/ be the first to say

"who /needs/ to see 10,000 lines of data?"

but, I can think of at least three of my users who will want [the
opportunity] to see every single one of them.

I have to say I was stunned at how fast VB.Net crunched its way through
the data, but if getting that data up onto the screen is going to be
/this/ slow, it's hardly worthwhile doing the "upgrade".

My "appending" code:

Private Sub AppendText(ByVal sText As String)
With Me.TextBox1
Dim iLen As Integer = .Text.Length + sText.Length

If (iLen >= (30000 * 1.1)) Then
Dim iTrimmer As Integer = iLen - 30000
Dim iPos As Integer = .Text.IndexOf(vbCrLf, iTrimmer)
.SelectionStart = 0
.SelectionLength = iPos + 1
.SelectedText = String.Empty
End If

.SelectionStart = .Text.Length
.SelectedText = sText & vbCrLf

.SelectionStart = .Text.Length

End With
End Sub

(Without the trimming bit, it's even more, /unbelievably/ slow; I got
fed up waiting after five minutes.)

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Phill W.
On Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:41 AM AMerce wrote:
Update the rtb in with batches of lines, not single lines. The performance
behavior you don't like will come with any control, eg updating a heavily
loaded list box one line at a time will crawl too.

"Phill W." wrote:
Click to expand...
You are correct. The program would normally only deal with a handful of
lines but, when the servers get very heavily loaded, the current version
of this program (in VB6) gets swamped by the amount of incoming data.


Dealing with the lines as Strings is lightning fast; it's adding them
sequentially to the TextBox that slows to a crawl.


I keep forgetting how quick StringBuilders are.

Batching the [TextBox] changes together improves things dramatically.

Regards,
Phill W.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
For a TextBox (all the same colour) I've tried this and it's a lot
faster. For the finished application, though, I need to use a
RichTextBox so that I can colour-code the displayed lines. If I set the
Text property on one of those, I lose all the previous colouration.


I hadn't thought of that, but then I'd rather not add the flickering
either. Unless I can sell it as a "feature"... ;-)


Can you tell me more? Or where to look?

Would these interfaces work even with the supplied [.Net] RichTextBox
Control? Or is /that/ just a wrapper around the underlying COM one?

Regards,
Phill W.
Click to expand...
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