Fastest Tualatin?

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Jens Christian Jørgensen said:
Dear group
Does anybody know, what would be the most powerful CPU that could be
installed in a CUSL2-LS motherboard?
I have read about Tualatin, but I can't find information about which is the
fastest Tualatin made so far.
Thank you for your help.
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Upgrade your whole system already.
 
Dear group
Does anybody know, what would be the most powerful CPU that could be
installed in a CUSL2-LS motherboard?
I have read about Tualatin, but I can't find information about which is the
fastest Tualatin made so far.
Thank you for your help.

Jens Christian Jørgensen
 
Darkfalz said:
Upgrade your whole system already.
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Why such a snotty response to his simply question ?
19 out of 20 people won't even stress a 1 GHz P3,
let alone a 1.4 GHz Tualatin. Only he knows whether it
would be both fast enough for him and fit within his
budget - you sure as heck don't.

To get the same performance from a P4 system he would
have spend at least twice as much to get a 2600 MHz P4,
a new motherboard, and new RAM. For all you know he has
the board maxed out on PC133 that he can't afford to
replace with DDR.

As well, a simple cpu replacement might be within his
technical skills, whereas a motherboard upgrade might
not.
 
Dear group
Does anybody know, what would be the most powerful CPU that could be
installed in a CUSL2-LS motherboard?
I have read about Tualatin, but I can't find information about which is the
fastest Tualatin made so far.
Thank you for your help.
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The tualatin celeron 1400 MHz is a good buy. It has a 2nd level cache
of 256 kbyte just as many coppermine P3 had.

There was produced also 1433 MHz P3 with 512 kbyte 2nd level cache,
but it is hard to find and much more expensive. The advantage of the
P3 is here that it is able to run in dual (on a dual board). This is
not possible with the celeron.

Then comes the clue:

Your board is not directly compatible to a tualatin. They are fcpga2
and coppermines are fcpga.

There are adapter for this. It is just a few pins that are different.
I have just yesterday found such an adapter for sale in Denmark from

https://www.computer-parts.dk/

Under processors take: cpu tilbehor

then you have it. For just 148 d.kr. excl. .....

It is the socalled Lin-lin adapter I believe, from China.

There are also others, the 370GU from www.upgradeware.com
but it has to be bought in Germany and is much more expensive, 55 €
incl. postage. Including a special cooler with longer clips.

The Lin-lin adapters requires that you modify the clips holding your
cooler. This should just be a small challenge to a handyman.

Then before operating with that cpu: exchange your bios with the
newest beta from asus, since this contains cpu microcodes for tualatin
(cpu code 06B4).

Take 1014ls01.zip
ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIOS/Socket_370/INTEL_Chipset/i815e/

I have just checked that 06B4 is within the cpucode.exe inside this
bios.

Hope this fits !

The 1400 is not a very great overclocker for fsb133. But it can do
14x112 quite easily.

For some design reasons this P3 technology beats a 1.6 GHz P4.

best regards

John
 
Jens Christian Jørgensen said:
Dear group
Does anybody know, what would be the most powerful CPU that could be
installed in a CUSL2-LS motherboard?
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About a 1 GHz PIII Coppermine.
I have read about Tualatin, but I can't find information about which is the
fastest Tualatin made so far.
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PIII-S 1.4. Tualatins won't work out of the box with a pre-Tualatin
board like yours, though - an adapter is needed for that.

Stephan
 
The Lin-lin adapters requires that you modify the clips holding your
cooler. This should just be a small challenge to a handyman.
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John
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John,

could you expand on the above sentence? I use a lin-lin without
modifying any of the clips...

and since you have experience with this adapter, could you list your
jumper configuration on the lin-lin and the voltage you are running,

thanks, eric
 
John,

could you expand on the above sentence? I use a lin-lin without
modifying any of the clips...
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Oh, no you are right:
https://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.html

I know the 370GU and it has no clips holders on.
and since you have experience with this adapter, could you list your
jumper configuration on the lin-lin and the voltage you are running,
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I don't. I have experience just with 370GU from upgradeware. There the
voltage is set in bios (to 1.5 volt of course) and no other settings
are required. Multiplier setting is of no importance. It is ignored
and the cpu boots correctly anyway since it is multiplier locked.

The speed can be checked with CPU-Z or cpu-id:

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

if the motherboard does not post correctly during boot. This is just
of cosmetic importance.

This is all I can say about it.
Fsb is also set in bios, normally.

best regards

John
 
Oh, no you are right:
https://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.html

I know the 370GU and it has no clips holders on.
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I have much experience with modifications for tualatin for slot1
motherboards.

The cusl2 motherboard can also be hardware modified on the socket, if
one dare.

You see the cookbook here:

http://www.geocities.com/_lunchbox/tualeron_success_table.html
Insulate AN3 AK4 AJ3. Bridge AK4-AK26. VID 0+2+4+Vss

Slot1 adapters can be modified in the same way, or some can:
http://www.geocities.com/_lunchbox/tualeron_compatible_slotkets.html

I have not gone into the very hard modifications like that for Abit
ZM6 or a generic slocket. You can read it on lunchbox.

best regards

John
 
Oh, no you are right:
https://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.html
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Just for the record this site, which is selling the lin-lin adapter,
has some, dare I say it, bullshit advertising. To wit:

"The box and instructions have some grammatical and spelling errors,
but this device worked well in our in-house tests. We tested it with a
Biostar M6VCF motherboard using both a Celeron 1200 and a Pentium III
1133 (both Tualatin processors). In the case of the Celeron 1200, the
BIOS of the M6VCF saw it as a Pentium III 305, but Sandra 2002 saw it
as a Celeron 1200, and it ran without problems".

This is the blurb, originally used by some reviewer and now by almost
every single seller of this device, who has probably never even opened
the package, from New York to Vladivostock, on e-bay and points
south.

In-house tests..... yeah right.

If anyone has experience with the lin-lin and data to add, please
visit http://www.bp6.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=10558#10558 and
contribute to the thread.
I know the 370GU and it has no clips holders on.
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Correct, thus adding height to your cpu and negating the use of your
original HSF, which is why Upgradeware supply their own hsf along with
the adapter.


eric
 
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