Fastest colour inkjet available?

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Hello,

What is the fastest colour inkjet printer currently available in the market?


Friend of mine wants to replace a Stylus Color 980, which he thinks of as
having been quite fast, and is now lookin at brochures and dismissing
everything he sees as not fast enough. I don't know how fast the 980 was,
but he sees figures like 14 ppm in colour and says that is too slow for him.

Any suggestions?


Thanks.

Joe
 
Hi Joe
What is the fastest colour inkjet printer
currently available in the market?

[1] For what sorts of printing tasks ?

[2] What's the budget ?

-- stan
 
What is the fastest colour inkjet printer
currently available in the market?

[1] For what sorts of printing tasks ?

We work a lot with digital photographs, that we kind of use as something to
look at while we plan a project. That's stuff that usually get's thrown away
or filed somewhere when we done with the project, so these printed photos do
not need to approach perfection, we'd rather have them printing very fast
while still looking decent. Hey, when we take those pictures out in the
field, we set the camera to low to medium resolutions, they just don't need
to be perfect, just give a pretty good idea, and handle relativly fast....

I hope that explanation get's across an idea of what we do.

Plus, of course, the usual letters, documents, etc.

Paper we use is normal 80g/m2 copier/printer paper for documents, and
usually 120g/m2 720 dpi paper for pictures, but not so-called photo paper.
[2] What's the budget ?

Difficult question. What did that Stylus Color 980 cost when it was new?
Something like 300 or 350 Euros? In any case, we'd love to stay well below
the 500 Euro mark...


Any suggestions welcome. Thanks.

Joe
 
Hi Joe

I think the Canon photo
inkjets would serve you well.

For example, the i960 prints
a 4x6 in under a minute, and
an 8x10 in about a minute.
Results are quite lovely.
Around $200 here in the US.

The only negative on the Canon
photo inkjets is that they haven't
paid much attention to image
longevity. But that doesn't matter
for your application.

Here's a link to that product's
webpage:

http://www.usa.canon.com/html/conCprProductDetail.jsp?modelid=9388&item=9443&section=10214


Best ...

-- stan
 
Hi Joe

Another option, slightly pricier, but
having the advantage of image longevity:

Epson's coming-soon R800. Uses their
UltraChrome pigment inks, for images that
last many decades. Prints to CDs and DVDs.
Puny little 1.5 picoliter ink drops. They're claiming
45 seconds to put out a 5"x7" print. Epson says
it'll be arriving in February. My distributor
has ETAs during the first week of Feb.
Should be selling for about $400
here in the U.S. Another printer that's going
to sell to lots of dedicated photo folks.

Here's a link to that product's website:

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=37472319

I realize the longevity may not be worth the
extra money to you, but thought you'd like to
be aware that a high-speed long-lived-images
printer is nigh extant.

-- stan
 
If you dont need "photo-quality", look at some of the HP office
models. My 1220C (still made) in the "fast" mode is **really fast**.

Quality is amazingly good at the fast setting.

Hello,

What is the fastest colour inkjet printer currently available in the market?


Friend of mine wants to replace a Stylus Color 980, which he thinks of as
having been quite fast, and is now lookin at brochures and dismissing
everything he sees as not fast enough. I don't know how fast the 980 was,
but he sees figures like 14 ppm in colour and says that is too slow for him.

Any suggestions?


Thanks.

Joe

**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
 
If you dont need "photo-quality", look at some of the HP office
models. My 1220C (still made) in the "fast" mode is **really fast**.

Quality is amazingly good at the fast setting.
It's still a snail compared to a Canon i960. It is faster in high quality
mode than your 1220C is in it's fast mode. It will print a 4x6 borderless in
37 second and an 8.5"x11" borderless in about 1 minute 10 seconds. That's in
it's highest quality photo setting. You can get that down to about 20-25
seconds if you select a lower quality mode which will be faster. And there
is a new model called the i990 that is more than twice as fast as the i960.
It does borderless 8.5"x11" photos in top quality mode in 37 seconds.
 
On 20/01/04 23:02, in article
[email protected], "Stanley Krute"


(...)
I realize the longevity may not be worth the
extra money to you, but thought you'd like to
be aware that a high-speed long-lived-images
printer is nigh extant.

Yes, you're right, longevity is not really our highest priority.

But still, this is interesting stuff, as well as the info I got via email,
that the Stylus Color 980, that my friend thinks is very fast, is specced at
10,5 ppm for color.

So, assuming that all these published spec have some relationshiop with
reality, these printers that are specced at 12 or 14 ppm should be faster
than his old one...

Now he only has to make up his mind.

Thanks,

Joe
 
Chris said:
It's still a snail compared to a Canon i960. It is faster in high
quality mode than your 1220C is in it's fast mode. It will print a
4x6 borderless in 37 second and an 8.5"x11" borderless in about 1
minute 10 seconds. That's in it's highest quality photo setting.
You can get that down to about 20-25 seconds if you select a lower
quality mode which will be faster. And there is a new model called
the i990 that is more than twice as fast as the i960. It does
borderless 8.5"x11" photos in top quality mode in 37 seconds.

Be aware that manufacturers *always* quote for 5% page coverage. So a
printer that claims to be able to print 10ppm is actually quite slow if you
make it proportionate.
 
Be aware that manufacturers *always* quote for 5% page coverage. So a
printer that claims to be able to print 10ppm is actually quite slow if you
make it proportionate.
I didn't quote PPM, I quoted ACTUAL print time for each size paper. BTW,
I've got an i850 sitting on my desk. It will do a 4x6 print in about 40
seconds and an 8.5"x11" in under 2 minutes. The i960 is faster. Just go
check some of the reviews that list actual print times.
 
On 20/01/04 23:02, in article
[email protected], "Stanley Krute"


(...)

Yes, you're right, longevity is not really our highest priority.

But still, this is interesting stuff, as well as the info I got via email,
that the Stylus Color 980, that my friend thinks is very fast, is specced at
10,5 ppm for color.

So, assuming that all these published spec have some relationshiop with
reality, these printers that are specced at 12 or 14 ppm should be faster
than his old one...
Don't go by the PPM specs, they are only for the maximum speed the motor can
move the paper through the printer. Not actual print throughput. The Canon
printers are at least 2 times faster than pretty much everything else out
there. Check Toms Hardware Guide, Steve Digicams, and Photo-i. They will
tell the actual print speed and Toms hardware guide give charts comparing
things like speed and actual ink usage.
 
Chris Stumpf said:
Don't go by the PPM specs, they are only for the maximum speed the motor can
move the paper through the printer. Not actual print throughput. The Canon
printers are at least 2 times faster than pretty much everything else out
there. Check Toms Hardware Guide, Steve Digicams, and Photo-i. They will
tell the actual print speed and Toms hardware guide give charts comparing
things like speed and actual ink usage.
And those print speeds are in draft mode for text and the lowest
quality for pictures
 
And those print speeds are in draft mode for text and the lowest
quality for pictures
Toms hardware shows both low and high quality settings. Not just draft. And
the other sites I mentioned do the testing in best photo mode. With epson
and HP, you get photo print speed in minutes per page (like 9-12 minutes) and
with Canon you get print speed in pages per minute. The canon i960 is the
fastest photo printer you can buy in the US, by a huge margin. Do a little
lurking in some of the web forums or read the reviews on the sites I
mentioned.
 
Hi Chris

Thanks for your additions to this thread.

Funny how folks with spurious info
want to dispute it. Ahh, the 'net,
where idjits roam free .....

Regards,

Stan
 
I have the i960 along with several HPs. The printhead is quite large on the
i960 which helps with it's speed. My timing of the 4"x6" is more like 1
minute than the 37 seconds I have seen printed. Still better than the
HPs....plus the ink is cheaper by a third ($12/cart. vs. HP's $34/cart.
where I buy them). The bordless print output is stunning on Canon's Pro
glossy paper.

Very nice printer.

BP~
 
I have the i960 along with several HPs. The printhead is quite large on the
i960 which helps with it's speed. My timing of the 4"x6" is more like 1
minute than the 37 seconds I have seen printed. Still better than the
HPs....plus the ink is cheaper by a third ($12/cart. vs. HP's $34/cart.
where I buy them). The bordless print output is stunning on Canon's Pro
glossy paper.

Very nice printer.
Well, it all depends on how you time the print. If you do it from the time
you hit the print key, then yeah, its about a minute due to spooling the head
cleaning ritual. But if you time it from the initiation of the paper feed,
then it is 37 seconds. The head cleaning ritual takes about 30 seconds btw.
 
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