External Hard Drives

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I have recently started back to college for my fall semester. One of
the things I have been told I need is either a flash drive or cd-rws
(^^p not gonna get the cdrws). I was wondering, while I was searching
on ebay, for a flash drive, I noticed an external hard drive that could
be connected via usb (it was a Dynamic Bearing Toshiba 40GB drive USB
in case <link for auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8702675621&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1>).
Would this be compatible to PC or MAC Desktops? Or am I better off
buying a flash drive (though external drives are actually cheaper and
store more)? Any input would be awsome (need to buy very soon and with
limited budgwet), thanks!
 
I have recently started back to college for my fall semester. One of
the things I have been told I need is either a flash drive or cd-rws
(^^p not gonna get the cdrws). I was wondering, while I was searching
on ebay, for a flash drive, I noticed an external hard drive that could
be connected via usb (it was a Dynamic Bearing Toshiba 40GB drive USB
in case <link for auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8702675621&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1>).
Would this be compatible to PC or MAC Desktops? Or am I better off
buying a flash drive (though external drives are actually cheaper and
store more)? Any input would be awsome (need to buy very soon and with
limited budgwet), thanks!

Flash drives are not actually cheaper though they do store
more.

The primary issue here is the size requirements of your
portable data. External drives are all multiple times
larger than a typical flash thumbdrive, in physical
dimensions, as well as far less reliable over the longer
term.

If you don't "need" more than 1GB of storage, I'd go with
the flash thumbdrive, but it's a personal preference and
yours might differ. Drives like you linked would be
universally supported on MAC (don't know the first OS
version though) and Windows (always Win2k or XP with latest
service packs, and "sometimes" Win98/ME if a driver for
those is explicitly included (but often such a driver is not
included yet might be available from manufacturer's
website)).

I would be weary of buying one off ebay though, some of them
are buggy and tend to disconnect intermittently, "drop out".
The best option would be to find a known name-brand,
relatively modern model in a local newspaper, promoted with
a rebate for lowest cost.
 
I think Kony got a little confused.

Yes, Flash drives are expensive. To add enough of them up to equal
your hard drive would be several hundred dollars, to several thousand
dollars.

I wouldn't buy a portable from e-bay however. I've never know anyone
who's had much luck with their electronics.

That said, there are other possibilities:

A regular hard drive enclosure, (3 1/2 inch) requires a separate power
cord to plug it into the wall. Several of these are available at
Tiger Direct.

Then there is the notebook hard drive enclosure, (2 1/2 inch) that
will run on the USB's power port. These have the advantage of being
very small and attach with just a USB cable. I bought one as a
fireproof backup for my system here and that's what I'd recommend.

I don't recommend thumb drives because they are expensive and very
slow.

For school, a 2 1/2 is a no brainer.

If you don't have a notebook to swap it out to format it, get it
pre-formatted.

You buy the hard drive and the enclosure. About 90.00 for both in the
60 gig range. Check them out at
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/index.hmx?

I've had good luck with this store.

60 gigs will give you plenty of storage for most anything you want to
save. You'll love the tiny drive.

Best of luck to you
 
I think Kony got a little confused.

Nope, you just didn't understand my post.
If OP doesnt' need 20GB of space, only 512MB or so to tote
around files, then a flash drive is in fact cheaper. Just
as I wrote, the issue is how much space is needed.
Yes, Flash drives are expensive. To add enough of them up to equal
your hard drive would be several hundred dollars, to several thousand
dollars.


Who claimed the OP "must" get same capacity?
Expense <> capacity per $, unless OP mandates that both
would need have exact same capacity, which would be a rather
arbitrary demand to make.


A regular hard drive enclosure, (3 1/2 inch) requires a separate power
cord to plug it into the wall. Several of these are available at
Tiger Direct.

For toting around at school as OP needed? You must be
joking.


I don't recommend thumb drives because they are expensive and very
slow.

Nope, 256MB drives are now practically free (at least under
$15 in the weekend newspapers) and they are now (providing
you choose one rated for good speed, not a hard thing to
do), FASTER than a mechanical hard drive.
For school, a 2 1/2 is a no brainer.

yep, it'd be stupid to carry around one if there is no need
for that much capacity, UNLESS there is another alternate
use for the additional capacity too. Otherwise it's just a
fragile, more expensive, more theft-prone device subject to
lower lifespan. External mechanical drives really only have
one thing going for them today- higher capacity. Hence my
last post mentioning this issue, how much capacity is
needed.

Actually, another viable alternative for many students might
be an MP3 player that uses UMS access, so it is essentially
a flash thumbdrive that also plays MP3, tunes FM, records
lectures, and possibly more.

It's not that I"m against external enclosures, but they are
not really suited to the same uses as a thumbdrive/MP3
player/etc for portability. I merely point out the
difference so a more informed choice can be made.
 
konywrote
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I think Kony got a little confused
Nope, you just didn't understand my post
If OP doesnt' need 20GB of space, only 512MB or so to tot
around files, then a flash drive is in fact cheaper. Jus
as I wrote, the issue is how much space is needed
Yes, Flash drives are expensive. To add enough of them up to equa
your hard drive would be several hundred dollars, to severa thousan
dollars

Who claimed the OP "must" get same capacity
Expense <> capacity per $, unless OP mandates that bot
would need have exact same capacity, which would be a rathe
arbitrary demand to make

A regular hard drive enclosure, (3 1/2 inch) requires a separat powe
cord to plug it into the wall. Several of these are available a
Tiger Direct
For toting around at school as OP needed? You must b
joking

I don't recommend thumb drives because they are expensive and ver
slow
Nope, 256MB drives are now practically free (at least unde
$15 in the weekend newspapers) and they are now (providin
you choose one rated for good speed, not a hard thing t
do), FASTER than a mechanical hard drive
For school, a 2 1/2 is a no brainer
yep, it'd be stupid to carry around one if there is no nee
for that much capacity, UNLESS there is another alternat
use for the additional capacity too. Otherwise it's just
fragile, more expensive, more theft-prone device subject t
lower lifespan. External mechanical drives really only hav
one thing going for them today- higher capacity. Hence m
last post mentioning this issue, how much capacity i
needed

Actually, another viable alternative for many students migh
be an MP3 player that uses UMS access, so it is essentiall
a flash thumbdrive that also plays MP3, tunes FM, record
lectures, and possibly more

It's not that I"m against external enclosures, but they ar
not really suited to the same uses as a thumbdrive/MP
player/etc for portability. I merely point out th
difference so a more informed choice can be made.[/quote:9658b75122

Informed choice about flash drives? What's to inform? They're tiny
I'd prefer an MP3 player over that. A 2 1/2 inch enclosure is hal
the thickness of a pack of cigarettes and a little taller. How muc
smaller do you need

If you want to go really small, how about just carrying around an S
card? This argument could go on

Yes, if you're only going to need half a gig of space, the flash driv
is fine, but I don't know about you, the rule is you never have enoug
storage. There's a big difference between half a gig and 60. O
course, I don't use MP3, only full CD rips, a flash drive wouldn'
made sense for me anyway, but we're not talking about me. Th
notebook drive will make him future proof

Further, I just read an article on a side by side comparison between
thumb drive and a notebook drive. There is none. Thumbs are specifi
application drives, not suited to be banged around, or be treated a
and actual drive. They can't compete. Maybe they can with a slo
interface such as USB2 anyway

Remember, I don't know about you, but there is such a thing as bein
too small

As far as flash not being expensive: I just read about Toshiba's ne
military notebook, it uses memory instead of a hard drive. 19 gig
costs around 467 dollars, according to Toshiba. Sorry, that'
pricey

Cheer
 
Informed choice about flash drives? What's to inform? They're tiny,
I'd prefer an MP3 player over that. A 2 1/2 inch enclosure is half
the thickness of a pack of cigarettes and a little taller. How much
smaller do you need?

Arbitrarily claiming something is "small enough", when there
are other options that are a fraction of that size, while
also being an order of magnitude more reliable, is
pointless.

Informed choice means actually comparing the qualities of
each, not trying to discount any that don't coincide to your
personal choice. The fact is, the external mechanical drive
has only two things going for it: higher capacity per $ and
higher total storage space potential. OP has, (thus far)
made no mention of a capacity requirement so basing a choice
on only storage space is quite premature.

If you want to go really small, how about just carrying around an SD
card? This argument could go on.

Yes, if OP had an assurance that *most* systems, all that
would need accessed, had an SD slot, it would be a fair idea
except that a flash thumbdrive is actually a little more
durable due to an outer casing "usually" meant to withstand
a littl external force, while SD card's casing is barely a
sheath to be used within another device.
Yes, if you're only going to need half a gig of space, the flash drive
is fine, but I don't know about you, the rule is you never have enough
storage.

Speaking in vague terms, true. Returning to reality, that
is generally at a PC or laptop, not "necessarily" when one
only needs ability to transport some files.
There's a big difference between half a gig and 60.

Yes, I can carry half a gig in any pocket and forget I have
the thumbdrive with me, it is no bother nor burden to have
it always available.
Of
course, I don't use MP3, only full CD rips, a flash drive wouldn't
made sense for me anyway, but we're not talking about me. The
notebook drive will make him future proof.

There is no such thing as future proof, but even so it's
quite the opposite, as the notebook drive is expected to
fail within a few, maybe too few years. Lugging around an
external drive and subjecting it to additional stress is not
always a good idea. You might be assuming some kind of
usage pattern based upon your own personal needs- a common
mistake people make, thinking that everyone else needs same
thing they do.

You "might" be right, that if details OP hasn't mentioend,
mandate more than 1-2GB of storage space, the external HDD
solution is necessary. You have jumped to a conclusion not
supported by evidence thus far.
Further, I just read an article on a side by side comparison between a
thumb drive and a notebook drive. There is none. Thumbs are specific
application drives, not suited to be banged around, or be treated as
and actual drive.

You don't even have a thumb drive do you?
I have several. They are completely usable where an
external is except they're lesser capacity and limited to a
few million write cycles. You'd have to be doing something
VERY unusal to ever approach that, like trying to put a
windows swapfile on one exculsively.

They can't compete. Maybe they can with a slow
interface such as USB2 anyway.

You have no idea what you're talking about. There are fast
and slow external drives and likewise with flash
thumbdrives. There is no external drive with as low a
latency as the slowest thumbdrive, and the fastest flash
drives are now at the threshold of USB2 bottlenecks.

If you want to try to argue outside of USB2 interface, you
have missed the entire point of portable storage, that if it
requires some special interface instead of the most common
externally available one, suddenly it's usefulness is very
low.
Remember, I don't know about you, but there is such a thing as being
too small.

You would do well to wait until you have more information
before assuming you know what OP needs. Of all possible
criteria to consider between a flash or external mechanical
drive, the capacity is the most obvious and is rather
pointless to mention as anyone can plainly see that detail
in product descriptions.

You mull over the very thing that would not need to be
mentioned because it is among the "obvious".

As far as flash not being expensive: I just read about Toshiba's new
military notebook, it uses memory instead of a hard drive. 19 gigs
costs around 467 dollars, according to Toshiba. Sorry, that's
pricey.


Again, you randomly jump to silly conclusions.
You do not yet know WHAT data needs transported.
I never claimed it was less expensive PER CAPACITY.
Rather, in the real, normal, everyday sense of the word
where lower price equals less expensive, it is less
expensive for a median to low capacity flash thumbdrive.

I can't help but think you've never been in any situation
where you really needed to transport data on a regular
basis. Some people need email, or office documents, contact
info or reports, etc, NOT as much storage space as they can
strap into a shock resistant 2nd package they backpack
around with them. Often all one needs is a most
reliable/durable method of transporting files and doesn't
want to fiddle around with setting up an internet server for
it (though that is yet another viable option in some
scenarios).
 
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