EU fines Microsoft $1.3 billion - GO EU!!!

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Herman Klump said:
Finally, a government with some balls!


You really think the EU is a good thing?

You haven't bothered to investigate what is the EU, their history, and
what is their goal. But then maybe you're into totalitarianism. The
EU has "members", not nations. They intend to obliterate nations
which was the same purpose of the Soviet Union. "Citizenship of the
Union is hereby established. Every person holding the nationality of a
Member State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union
shall complement and not replace national citizenship." However,
socialism doesn't recognize nations so it is not the purpose of the EU
to maintain nationality but instead to dissolve it to accomplish their
concept of normality. The "state" replaces nations, and the "state"
is the EU, not its members.

The Soviet Union wanted to create a new historic entity, same as the
EU today. Oh, these countries, er, "members" all volunteered to be in
the EU, right? "Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty
twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at
many other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost
blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum.
All five times they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen
the sixth time, the seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a
trick for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the
people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why
stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans
would call a shotgun marriage."
(http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865).

If the fine actually harmed Microsoft sufficiently to make them do
anything, that anything would be to simply not distribute/sell their
wares to EU members. So the EU helps to protect its "state's
citizens" with the result that those citizens, whether they
individually want the decision or not, resolve to not have those
product or services. Well, I didn't see anyone pointing guns at their
heads to force them to buy Windows in the first place. Basically the
EU became enraged that anyone would refuse to kowtow to the EU. The
EU slapped Microsoft again for Microsoft having the audacity of not
complying with a non-national entity. How dare Microsoft, or anyone,
refuse to comply to the EU's demands. I doubt the fine will
sufficient impact on Microsoft for them to consider not selling to EU
members. If it did, Microsoft would simply withdraw from those
markets and those EU members can go use something else that makes them
happy. Would be interesting to know how much revenue would be lost by
Microsoft to NOT sell to EU members. Well, Microsoft still sells in
China despite the huge level of piracy over there. At $50 billion
revenue in 2007, Microsoft probably will endure the EU until commerce
becomes too oppressive with EU members.
 
VanguardLH, you are 100% correct. The United States should have stepped in
at the beginning of this but I guess they won't. MS should pull all there
software/services from the EU and see how long it would be before their
people went after them.

Frank


VanguardLH said:
Herman Klump said:
Finally, a government with some balls!


You really think the EU is a good thing?

You haven't bothered to investigate what is the EU, their history, and
what is their goal. But then maybe you're into totalitarianism. The EU
has "members", not nations. They intend to obliterate nations which was
the same purpose of the Soviet Union. "Citizenship of the Union is hereby
established. Every person holding the nationality of a Member State shall
be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union shall complement and
not replace national citizenship." However, socialism doesn't recognize
nations so it is not the purpose of the EU to maintain nationality but
instead to dissolve it to accomplish their concept of normality. The
"state" replaces nations, and the "state" is the EU, not its members.

The Soviet Union wanted to create a new historic entity, same as the EU
today. Oh, these countries, er, "members" all volunteered to be in the
EU, right? "Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty twice. Look
at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at many other
countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost blackmail.
Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum. All five times
they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen the sixth time, the
seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a trick for idiots. The
people have to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is
wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why stop? Let us continue voting.
The European Union is what Americans would call a shotgun marriage."
(http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865).

If the fine actually harmed Microsoft sufficiently to make them do
anything, that anything would be to simply not distribute/sell their wares
to EU members. So the EU helps to protect its "state's citizens" with the
result that those citizens, whether they individually want the decision or
not, resolve to not have those product or services. Well, I didn't see
anyone pointing guns at their heads to force them to buy Windows in the
first place. Basically the EU became enraged that anyone would refuse to
kowtow to the EU. The EU slapped Microsoft again for Microsoft having the
audacity of not complying with a non-national entity. How dare Microsoft,
or anyone, refuse to comply to the EU's demands. I doubt the fine will
sufficient impact on Microsoft for them to consider not selling to EU
members. If it did, Microsoft would simply withdraw from those markets
and those EU members can go use something else that makes them happy.
Would be interesting to know how much revenue would be lost by Microsoft
to NOT sell to EU members. Well, Microsoft still sells in China despite
the huge level of piracy over there. At $50 billion revenue in 2007,
Microsoft probably will endure the EU until commerce becomes too
oppressive with EU members.
 
Hey I'm in the EU (Scotland) so please don't do that!

I don't like the EU any more than you or Microsoft, they are simply a
neverending source of bureaucracy, silly rules and regulations. One of the
benefits of the IT trade is its relative freedom from the mountains of
pointless paperwork which beset electricians, security-alarm installers, etc.

In fact, here we're a lot better off than in England, where thanks to 'Part
P' of the building regs, even a private householder now has to get official
paperwork signed just to do minor electrical work himself.

Thing is, all this paperwork doesn't guarantee a good job, anyway. In fact
it more than likely ensures poor-quality work, from a guy whose attention is
focused on filling-in a million forms instead of on the job.

If the IT trade goes that way, methinks I'll pack it in. Or do what a lot of
the English electricians do, and work for cash to avoid the red-tape.

Strange thing is, I've been to most of the (original) EU countries, and NONE
of the people there like the EU! The only ones who benefit are those who
joined with a weak currency, since membership allows their workers to come
here and earn in a week what they'd get in a month back home.
 
Joseph, is that you, Joseph McCarthy? We thought you were dead!
You really think the EU is a good thing?

You haven't bothered to investigate what is the EU, their history, and
what is their goal. But then maybe you're into totalitarianism. The EU
has "members", not nations. They intend to obliterate nations which was
the same purpose of the Soviet Union. "Citizenship of the Union is
hereby established. Every person holding the nationality of a Member
State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union shall
complement and not replace national citizenship." However, socialism
doesn't recognize nations so it is not the purpose of the EU to maintain
nationality but instead to dissolve it to accomplish their concept of
normality. The "state" replaces nations, and the "state" is the EU, not
its members.

The Soviet Union wanted to create a new historic entity, same as the EU
today. Oh, these countries, er, "members" all volunteered to be in the
EU, right? "Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty twice.
Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at many
other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost
blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum.
All five times they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen the
sixth time, the seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a trick
for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the people vote
the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why stop? Let us
continue voting. The European Union is what Americans would call a
shotgun marriage." (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865).

If the fine actually harmed Microsoft sufficiently to make them do
anything, that anything would be to simply not distribute/sell their
wares to EU members. So the EU helps to protect its "state's citizens"
with the result that those citizens, whether they individually want the
decision or not, resolve to not have those product or services. Well, I
didn't see anyone pointing guns at their heads to force them to buy
Windows in the first place. Basically the EU became enraged that anyone
would refuse to kowtow to the EU. The EU slapped Microsoft again for
Microsoft having the audacity of not complying with a non-national
entity. How dare Microsoft, or anyone, refuse to comply to the EU's
demands. I doubt the fine will sufficient impact on Microsoft for them
to consider not selling to EU members. If it did, Microsoft would
simply withdraw from those markets and those EU members can go use
something else that makes them happy. Would be interesting to know how
much revenue would be lost by Microsoft to NOT sell to EU members.
Well, Microsoft still sells in China despite the huge level of piracy
over there. At $50 billion revenue in 2007, Microsoft probably will
endure the EU until commerce becomes too oppressive with EU members.
 
Herman Klump said:
Finally, a government with some balls!


You really think the EU is a good thing?

You haven't bothered to investigate what is the EU, their history, and
what is their goal. But then maybe you're into totalitarianism. The
EU has "members", not nations. They intend to obliterate nations
which was the same purpose of the Soviet Union. "Citizenship of the
Union is hereby established. Every person holding the nationality of a
Member State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union
shall complement and not replace national citizenship." However,
socialism doesn't recognize nations so it is not the purpose of the EU
to maintain nationality but instead to dissolve it to accomplish their
concept of normality. The "state" replaces nations, and the "state"
is the EU, not its members.

The Soviet Union wanted to create a new historic entity, same as the
EU today. Oh, these countries, er, "members" all volunteered to be in
the EU, right? "Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty
twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at
many other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost
blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum.
All five times they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen
the sixth time, the seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a
trick for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the
people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why
stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans
would call a shotgun marriage."
(http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865).

If the fine actually harmed Microsoft sufficiently to make them do
anything, that anything would be to simply not distribute/sell their
wares to EU members. So the EU helps to protect its "state's
citizens" with the result that those citizens, whether they
individually want the decision or not, resolve to not have those
product or services. Well, I didn't see anyone pointing guns at their
heads to force them to buy Windows in the first place. Basically the
EU became enraged that anyone would refuse to kowtow to the EU. The
EU slapped Microsoft again for Microsoft having the audacity of not
complying with a non-national entity. How dare Microsoft, or anyone,
refuse to comply to the EU's demands. I doubt the fine will
sufficient impact on Microsoft for them to consider not selling to EU
members. If it did, Microsoft would simply withdraw from those
markets and those EU members can go use something else that makes them
happy. Would be interesting to know how much revenue would be lost by
Microsoft to NOT sell to EU members. Well, Microsoft still sells in
China despite the huge level of piracy over there. At $50 billion
revenue in 2007, Microsoft probably will endure the EU until commerce
becomes too oppressive with EU members.

I don't care if Satan himself runs the EU. They are 100% right about Microsoft!
 
I think you spelled one word wrong. "They are 100% right about Microsoft!"
is "They are 100% WRONG about Microsoft!"

Herman Klump said:
Herman Klump said:
Finally, a government with some balls!


You really think the EU is a good thing?

You haven't bothered to investigate what is the EU, their history, and
what is their goal. But then maybe you're into totalitarianism. The
EU has "members", not nations. They intend to obliterate nations
which was the same purpose of the Soviet Union. "Citizenship of the
Union is hereby established. Every person holding the nationality of a
Member State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union
shall complement and not replace national citizenship." However,
socialism doesn't recognize nations so it is not the purpose of the EU
to maintain nationality but instead to dissolve it to accomplish their
concept of normality. The "state" replaces nations, and the "state"
is the EU, not its members.

The Soviet Union wanted to create a new historic entity, same as the
EU today. Oh, these countries, er, "members" all volunteered to be in
the EU, right? "Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty
twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at
many other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost
blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum.
All five times they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen
the sixth time, the seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a
trick for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the
people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why
stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans
would call a shotgun marriage."
(http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865).

If the fine actually harmed Microsoft sufficiently to make them do
anything, that anything would be to simply not distribute/sell their
wares to EU members. So the EU helps to protect its "state's
citizens" with the result that those citizens, whether they
individually want the decision or not, resolve to not have those
product or services. Well, I didn't see anyone pointing guns at their
heads to force them to buy Windows in the first place. Basically the
EU became enraged that anyone would refuse to kowtow to the EU. The
EU slapped Microsoft again for Microsoft having the audacity of not
complying with a non-national entity. How dare Microsoft, or anyone,
refuse to comply to the EU's demands. I doubt the fine will
sufficient impact on Microsoft for them to consider not selling to EU
members. If it did, Microsoft would simply withdraw from those
markets and those EU members can go use something else that makes them
happy. Would be interesting to know how much revenue would be lost by
Microsoft to NOT sell to EU members. Well, Microsoft still sells in
China despite the huge level of piracy over there. At $50 billion
revenue in 2007, Microsoft probably will endure the EU until commerce
becomes too oppressive with EU members.

I don't care if Satan himself runs the EU. They are 100% right about
Microsoft!
 
Herman Klump said:
Finally, a government with some balls!


You really think the EU is a good thing?

You haven't bothered to investigate what is the EU, their history, and
what is their goal. But then maybe you're into totalitarianism. The
EU has "members", not nations. They intend to obliterate nations
which was the same purpose of the Soviet Union. "Citizenship of the
Union is hereby established. Every person holding the nationality of a
Member State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union
shall complement and not replace national citizenship." However,
socialism doesn't recognize nations so it is not the purpose of the EU
to maintain nationality but instead to dissolve it to accomplish their
concept of normality. The "state" replaces nations, and the "state"
is the EU, not its members.

The Soviet Union wanted to create a new historic entity, same as the
EU today. Oh, these countries, er, "members" all volunteered to be in
the EU, right? "Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty
twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at
many other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost
blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum.
All five times they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen
the sixth time, the seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a
trick for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the
people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why
stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans
would call a shotgun marriage."
(http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865).

If the fine actually harmed Microsoft sufficiently to make them do
anything, that anything would be to simply not distribute/sell their
wares to EU members. So the EU helps to protect its "state's
citizens" with the result that those citizens, whether they
individually want the decision or not, resolve to not have those
product or services. Well, I didn't see anyone pointing guns at their
heads to force them to buy Windows in the first place. Basically the
EU became enraged that anyone would refuse to kowtow to the EU. The
EU slapped Microsoft again for Microsoft having the audacity of not
complying with a non-national entity. How dare Microsoft, or anyone,
refuse to comply to the EU's demands. I doubt the fine will
sufficient impact on Microsoft for them to consider not selling to EU
members. If it did, Microsoft would simply withdraw from those
markets and those EU members can go use something else that makes them
happy. Would be interesting to know how much revenue would be lost by
Microsoft to NOT sell to EU members. Well, Microsoft still sells in
China despite the huge level of piracy over there. At $50 billion
revenue in 2007, Microsoft probably will endure the EU until commerce
becomes too oppressive with EU members.

You are a highly misinformed slob with a narrow vision and a closed
mind.

--
--
Regards,

Twayne

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;
OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org
 
Vincent said:
Joseph, is that you, Joseph McCarthy? We thought you were dead!


Who is Joseph McCarthy? Hold on while I Google ... This guy maybe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

He died a year after I was born; i.e., before my era. If Joseph has a
voice anywhere now, it would be by Ouiga board. From what little I've
read about him, seemed he was mostly zealous about Communists rather
than socialism. You are also trying to draw similarities to the EU of
today to the early Cold War era when nuclear holocaust could have
became a reality with two dipolar political major powers pointing
missiles at each other. Not sure the comparison is accurate. For me,
extremism in any philosophy never seems a good attitude.

Socialism still exists but seems to be waning. China is trying to get
rid of it. Cuba is in a very sad state. Canadians travel to Buffalo
to get MRIs because of the delays for red-tape and waiting lines.
Whether good or bad depends on how socialism is implemented and
thereafter maintained or modified. I don't see the EU as a good
implementation of socialism. Might've started that way, isn't very
good now, and getting worse. Yes, we definitely need a world
government dictating the quality of yogurt or issuing decrees that
prohibit European nations, oops sorry, "members" other than Greece
from using the word "Feta" for a type of cheese. Seems they are a
wannabe pseudo-government in search of a purpose and sticking their
fingers into business at the most mundane level.

Those in countries with socialistic medical care know what happens
when socialism is applied there. Rather than have you have to spend
some of your hard-earned dollars upfront (and some that is not so
upfront, like taxes and premiums), you instead provide free medical
care for the boobs crowding a clinic to apply a bandaid for a finger
prick, a doctor's session to ask why their ankle hurts when the
canister vacumm cleaner rolled down a ramp and hit them in the ankle,
or get for free an otherwise several-thousand-dollar
liposuction-boobjob-Botox treatment. Socialist medical care: where
anyone and everyone can take advantage of the system for the most
mundane and non-critical health issues the result of which is
countless petty-problem healthcare-seekers over-exploiting the system.
Socialized medicine: equality for all, quality for none.

From several folks that I've heard from that were in a member "state"
(nation) of the EU, it wasn't something they personally wanted (well,
except for those in countries with a weak currency). So in what EU
country to you reside? How many referundums did it take before the
vote finally went the way the EU wanted and then no longer permitted
you further referundums to decide to exit the EU?

I'm not specifically anti-socialist. I just don't see that works for
very long. It seems self-degenerative because its participants are
not the ultra-sacrificing altruistic idealists needed to make it
[continue to] work. Altruism, which is not a pervasive human quality,
is for those that can afford it. After forcibly distributing the
wealth after a few decades, no one can afford the altruism anymore.
 
in message
VanguardLH said:

You are a highly misinformed slob with a narrow vision and a closed
mind.

Like bad cops and Linux proselytizers, you do disservice to your
fellow Americans by electing blindness. I apologize to all for
Twayne. He cannot even correctly attribute the quoted content so I
had to fix it for him.
 
VanguardLH said:
Who is Joseph McCarthy? Hold on while I Google

[Sniped, American blind view of how the world "ought" to run]

What utter rubbish! It's no wonder that Americans are viewed as
ignorant the world over! What makes you think that you should be
running other peoples affairs? You can't run your own country, keep
your narrow minded politics out of other people's countries!
 
VanguardLH said:
in message news:%238CE%[email protected]...

Like bad cops and Linux proselytizers, you do disservice to your fellow
Americans by electing blindness. I apologize to all for Twayne. He
cannot even correctly attribute the quoted content so I had to fix it
for him.

You are apologizing to whom? Do you think that these groups are solely
read by an American audience? These groups are read by an international
audience. If you want to apologize you should start by apologizing for
your government for propping up dictators the world over for years and
years. You should apologize for your country breaking the Geneva
Convention. You should apologize for your country now about to do
something that hasn't been done by any country now for about 200 years,
prosecuting child soldiers under some phony laws invented by the
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld triumvirate!

Americans are in no position to be lecturing others or to be telling
others how to run their countries, in the past eight years you have lost
any and all moral authority that you might have ever had.
 
Stepped in to what? Other peoples business? Or step into another pile
of dog doo? Do you guys think that own the whole world and that your
ways are better than everybody else's? You can't run your own country,
stay out of other peoples countries! It's guys like you who strengthen
the notion that Americans are ignorant!

VanguardLH, you are 100% correct. The United States should have stepped in
at the beginning of this but I guess they won't. MS should pull all there
software/services from the EU and see how long it would be before their
people went after them.

Frank


VanguardLH said:
Herman Klump said:
Finally, a government with some balls!

You really think the EU is a good thing?

You haven't bothered to investigate what is the EU, their history, and
what is their goal. But then maybe you're into totalitarianism. The EU
has "members", not nations. They intend to obliterate nations which was
the same purpose of the Soviet Union. "Citizenship of the Union is hereby
established. Every person holding the nationality of a Member State shall
be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union shall complement and
not replace national citizenship." However, socialism doesn't recognize
nations so it is not the purpose of the EU to maintain nationality but
instead to dissolve it to accomplish their concept of normality. The
"state" replaces nations, and the "state" is the EU, not its members.

The Soviet Union wanted to create a new historic entity, same as the EU
today. Oh, these countries, er, "members" all volunteered to be in the
EU, right? "Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty twice. Look
at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at many other
countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost blackmail.
Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum. All five times
they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen the sixth time, the
seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a trick for idiots. The
people have to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is
wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why stop? Let us continue voting.
The European Union is what Americans would call a shotgun marriage."
(http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865).

If the fine actually harmed Microsoft sufficiently to make them do
anything, that anything would be to simply not distribute/sell their wares
to EU members. So the EU helps to protect its "state's citizens" with the
result that those citizens, whether they individually want the decision or
not, resolve to not have those product or services. Well, I didn't see
anyone pointing guns at their heads to force them to buy Windows in the
first place. Basically the EU became enraged that anyone would refuse to
kowtow to the EU. The EU slapped Microsoft again for Microsoft having the
audacity of not complying with a non-national entity. How dare Microsoft,
or anyone, refuse to comply to the EU's demands. I doubt the fine will
sufficient impact on Microsoft for them to consider not selling to EU
members. If it did, Microsoft would simply withdraw from those markets
and those EU members can go use something else that makes them happy.
Would be interesting to know how much revenue would be lost by Microsoft
to NOT sell to EU members. Well, Microsoft still sells in China despite
the huge level of piracy over there. At $50 billion revenue in 2007,
Microsoft probably will endure the EU until commerce becomes too
oppressive with EU members.
 
Vincent said:
VanguardLH said:
Who is Joseph McCarthy? Hold on while I Google

[Sniped, American blind view of how the world "ought" to run]

What utter rubbish! It's no wonder that Americans are viewed as
ignorant the world over! What makes you think that you should be
running other peoples affairs? You can't run your own country, keep
your narrow minded politics out of other people's countries!


Yes, so it must be just me that knows how to run other people's
affairs, just like what the EU wants to do. Well, you've just
condemned EU by your own logic.
 
I think you spelled one word wrong. "They are 100% right about Microsoft!"
is "They are 100% WRONG about Microsoft!"

WOW! You really got me there! It sounds like a lot of thought went into that
statement.

Microsoft used unfair tactics to get to where they are today. The sniveling
politicians in this country (the US), along with their shills in the Justice Dep't.
allowed M$ to do whatever they wanted - especially during the past eight years with
that freakin' moron Bush in office. Every computer geek who has lived through the
past twenty years of their shit has seen it over and over - at least the ones who do
not work for Micro$haft.

The EU is the only organization on Earth with the balls to actually call out M$ and
spell out exactly why M$ is the worst possible thing that could ever happen to the
computer industry - ZERO COMPETITION for the one key element required to run every
computer, an operating system. The way it sits, M$ will never have any real
competition and will continue to do whatever they want and charge whatever they want
while continuing to use all of us in their experiments (operating systems).

Maybe when our moron president is finally out of the picture and the Dems are in
control things will change, but I doubt it. And even if our government ever gets the
balls to take on the largest illegal monopoly in the history of the world, I'm sure
ol' Billy Gates will come to the rescue and fill some key politicians' pockets with
some of his $$$. He did say he wanted to give it all away, right?
 
Frank

You would of course be overjoyed to then be asked to pay substantially
more for all future purchases by you for Microsoft products. Of course
all users in the EU are currently subsidising those users resident in
the US.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Of course all users in the EU are currently subsidising those users
resident in the US.

And have been for YEARS. Not just with MS products either......US price $1,
UK price £1, no matter what the exchange rate.
 
Not always true Gordon but often is!


~~~~


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
"Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty twice. Look
at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at many other
countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost blackmail.
Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum. All five times
they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen the sixth time, the
seventh time. "

Yeah, a principle has arisen here that if the Parliament refuse to vote-in
an unpopular measure, they vote is repeated, repeated... ad nauseam until it
eventually gets passed. Once passed, then there are of course no more votes
on the matter.

I have to ask 'Where is the democracy in this? ' It is more akin to an
interrogator asking the same question over and over, till he gets the answer
he wants.. even if it isn't the truthful answer.
 
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