Essential security/utility software

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Steve

Hi,

My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is a little
on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that I hadn't thought
of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares people use to secure the
ship and keep it running smoothly. So far, it seems that the following are
necessaries:

Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job without
bloating things up

Firewall - not sure which is best here (I'll be subscribing to a cable modem
service through Adelphia) although I would rather take time to learn how to
set up a complex yet effective firewall than a simple one that leaves you
overly vunerable or overly restricted.

Norton Utilities - people seem to say it is good for tuning a system,
especially the defrager, but all the added thingies negate the good it does.

Pop-up Stopper and Ad-killer - lots of varieties. I guess the trick is to find
the ones that do the job yet don't plant their own scripts/bots.

If you can add/subtract from this list please feel free and if you have a
favorite hunting ground (online or offline - I'm in southern California) for
this type of software I'd be glad to hear about it.

Thanks very much.
 
Hi,

My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is a little
on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that I hadn't thought
of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares people use to secure the
ship and keep it running smoothly. So far, it seems that the following are
necessaries:

Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job without
bloating things up

Firewall - not sure which is best here (I'll be subscribing to a cable modem
service through Adelphia) although I would rather take time to learn how to
set up a complex yet effective firewall than a simple one that leaves you
overly vunerable or overly restricted.

Norton Utilities - people seem to say it is good for tuning a system,
especially the defrager, but all the added thingies negate the good it does.

Pop-up Stopper and Ad-killer - lots of varieties. I guess the trick is to find
the ones that do the job yet don't plant their own scripts/bots.

If you can add/subtract from this list please feel free and if you have a
favorite hunting ground (online or offline - I'm in southern California) for
this type of software I'd be glad to hear about it.
Anti-Virus...NOD32. Less bloated than Norton Corp. Also Norton Corp
doesn't have an e-mail plugin for Outlook Express, only Outlook.

Firewall, Sygate. Free version is good enough.

Norton Utilities...complete waste of time on XP. Use jv16 Powertools
for registry fixing/cleaning.

Popup stopper etc..use Mozilla or Opera web browsers instead.

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NO DAMN NORTON!!!!!!!!!!
FW software zonealarm - sygate
Better- router H/W firewall /NAT even if your not running a LAN
AVG is a good FREE anti virus, free updates, no subscriptions fees, there are MANY others
NO so called system 'enhancers' they're for the most part BS.
 
Steve said:
Hi,

My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is
a little on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that
I hadn't thought of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares
people use to secure the ship and keep it running smoothly. So far,
it seems that the following are necessaries:

Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job
without bloating things up

AV products are a tough call. Norton AV products are usually a safe bet in
terms of detection and frequent updates, sometimes at the expense of system
resources. Depending on your computing habits, it may not be necessary to
run AV fulltime. Most products can be configured to run on demand.
Firewall - not sure which is best here (I'll be subscribing to a
cable modem service through Adelphia) although I would rather take
time to learn how to set up a complex yet effective firewall than a
simple one that leaves you overly vunerable or overly restricted.

Sygate or Kerio may be good choices if you don't mind spending a bit of time
to configure them. If a hardware firewall using NAT, IP chains/tables, or
SPI is used, one could argue a software firewall is unnecessary. I do not
consider network address translation to be a true firewall, though many
products are marketed as such.
Norton Utilities - people seem to say it is good for tuning a system,
especially the defrager, but all the added thingies negate the good
it does.

The native checkdisk and defrag utilities in Windows XP do a pretty good job
with little overhead when XP is installed on an NTFS partition.
Pop-up Stopper and Ad-killer - lots of varieties. I guess the trick
is to find the ones that do the job yet don't plant their own
scripts/bots.

Popup Stopper from Panicware.com one I've used with success. A good HOSTS
file may be all you need. For spyware/adware/malware, Spybot Search and
Destroy in combination with AdAware from Lavasoft do a very good job. An
alternative browser such as Mozilla or Opera is another option.
 
| My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is a little
| on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that I hadn't thought
| of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares people use to secure the
| ship and keep it running smoothly. So far, it seems that the following are
| necessaries:
|
| Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job without
| bloating things up

That's what I use. It does a good job for me. I like it!

| Firewall - not sure which is best here (I'll be subscribing to a cable modem
| service through Adelphia) although I would rather take time to learn how to
| set up a complex yet effective firewall than a simple one that leaves you
| overly vunerable or overly restricted.

Zone Alarm is good. The basic version is free and is better than some others
that aren't, IMHO. I frankly prefer a highly configurable hardware firewall,
though, and use a Netgear gateway router to serve as both firewall and
networking junction.

| Norton Utilities - people seem to say it is good for tuning a system,
| especially the defrager, but all the added thingies negate the good it does.

I use that too, but keep tight reins on it. NU gets away with doing only what I
want it to do on my system.

| Pop-up Stopper and Ad-killer - lots of varieties. I guess the trick is to find
| the ones that do the job yet don't plant their own scripts/bots.

AdSubtract is configurable enough to do a reasonably good job for me. I run
Ad-Aware and Spybot occasionally as a second defense, but find there's often not
much for them to do. If a spy has crept in somehow, one of those programs
should clean it up. There's probably not much you can do to cut popups out
altogether, especially those that ride on sites you want to get. There's too
fine a line between denying the popups you don't want while keeping security
open enough to get those you do want. The realistic approach here seems to be
in keeping undesirable popups to an acceptable minimum.

Congratulations on your new system. Good luck in getting everything set up.

Larc



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Steve said:
Hi,

My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is a little
on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that I hadn't thought
of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares people use to secure the
ship and keep it running smoothly. So far, it seems that the following are
necessaries:

Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job without
bloating things up
NOD32 is much lighter on resources and IMO much better than Norton.

http://www.esetsoftware.co.uk/
Firewall - not sure which is best here (I'll be subscribing to a cable modem
service through Adelphia) although I would rather take time to learn how to
set up a complex yet effective firewall than a simple one that leaves you
overly vunerable or overly restricted.
I've used both Kerio and ZoneAlarm Pro. Currently using ZoneAlarm Pro

http://www.kerio.com/us/kpf_home.html
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home.jsp
Norton Utilities - people seem to say it is good for tuning a system,
especially the defrager, but all the added thingies negate the good it does.
Avoid it like the plague. Totally unnecessary bloatware. If you want a
useful tool try out Iolo's System Mechanic.

http://www.iolo.com/
Pop-up Stopper and Ad-killer - lots of varieties. I guess the trick is to find
the ones that do the job yet don't plant their own scripts/bots.
Have a look here:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?M27B14CC5
If you can add/subtract from this list please feel free and if you have a
favorite hunting ground (online or offline - I'm in southern California) for
this type of software I'd be glad to hear about it.
Run a couple of Adware killers:

AdAware from http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Spybot S & D from http://www.safer-networking.org/

Don't forget to disable the Messenger service to stop messenger popups.

HTH
 
Hi,

My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is a little
on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that I hadn't thought
of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares people use to secure the
ship and keep it running smoothly. So far, it seems that the following are
necessaries:

Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job without
bloating things up

Norton sucks and can cause more problems than a virus.
 
Steve said:
Hi,

My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is a little
on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that I hadn't thought
of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares people use to secure the
ship and keep it running smoothly. So far, it seems that the following are
necessaries:

Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job without
bloating things up

Firewall - not sure which is best here (I'll be subscribing to a cable modem
service through Adelphia) although I would rather take time to learn how to
set up a complex yet effective firewall than a simple one that leaves you
overly vunerable or overly restricted.

Norton Utilities - people seem to say it is good for tuning a system,
especially the defrager, but all the added thingies negate the good it does.

Pop-up Stopper and Ad-killer - lots of varieties. I guess the trick is to find
the ones that do the job yet don't plant their own scripts/bots.

If you can add/subtract from this list please feel free and if you have a
favorite hunting ground (online or offline - I'm in southern California) for
this type of software I'd be glad to hear about it.

Thanks very much.

I have used Nortons for years and have had absolutely no problems with any
of their software. If you install and configure it properly it only does
what you want it to when you want it to. As far as AVG, I have found Norton
to be much better at virus protection if you keep it up to date. YMMV
 
DS said:
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I have used Nortons for years and have had absolutely no problems with any
of their software. If you install and configure it properly it only does
what you want it to when you want it to. As far as AVG, I have found Norton
to be much better at virus protection if you keep it up to date. YMMV

An OK for Norton, it's the granddad of PC utility software. I recently bought
McAfee firewall and internet security. Seems to work OK, but there are quite
a lot of options so I'm not sure if it does more than Zonealarm, but it does
give some more information about the intrusion attacks.
 
DS <[email protected]> said:
I have used Nortons for years and have had absolutely no problems with any
of their software. If you install and configure it properly it only does
what you want it to when you want it to. As far as AVG, I have found Norton
to be much better at virus protection if you keep it up to date. YMMV

Why do you say it's better? Did Norton find a virus which AVG missed? If
so, how do you know?

General opinion on the AV newsgroups is that the best Antivirus software
is from the Sophos/NOD32/Kaspersky/F-Prot writers. Leave out Sophos,
it's expensive and really aimed at large commercial networks.

However, you pays yer money and you takes yer choice. Having tried
Norton, AVG, Kaspersky and NOD32 I settled on NOD because it's light and
it consistently gets top reviews.

Have a look here for a review:

http://www.pcnineoneone.com/reviews/sw/nod32_2.html

If you want a free one Anti-Vir gets very good reviews, you can find it
at:

http://free-av.com/

HTH
 
Paul said:
Why do you say it's better? Did Norton find a virus which AVG missed? If
so, how do you know?

The short answer is yes, it did find a virus that AVG missed. It found it on
my son's computer that was running AVG and was networked with the home
network. This happened on a couple of occasions. Like I said, YMMV. Just
speaking from my experiences.
 
Hi,

My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is a little
on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that I hadn't thought
of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares people use to secure the
ship and keep it running smoothly. So far, it seems that the following are
necessaries:

Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job without
bloating things up

Wouldn't know. I run F-Prot (free DOS version that runs in a window),
AVG (also free), PC-cillin (it came with the motherboard and no longer
updates when I ask it to but you can download the updated files, unzip
them to the directory, and edit the ini file to make the prog use the
new file) Occasionally I run the Housecall deally just to see.
TDS is supposed to be the last word in trojan and worm killers.
They update their downloadable database files DAILY.
http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/
Firewall - not sure which is best here (I'll be subscribing to a cable modem
service through Adelphia) although I would rather take time to learn how to
set up a complex yet effective firewall than a simple one that leaves you
overly vunerable or overly restricted.

If it's a software firewall then ZoneAlarm. Pro costs money and has
more options but the free version of ZA is pretty good. Also it
catches spyware trying to phone home whereas a lot of cheap (but costs
money to buy) software firewalls only monitors incoming stuff.
Norton Utilities - people seem to say it is good for tuning a system,
especially the defrager, but all the added thingies negate the good it does.

Ran Norton from back when it was DOS based and before M$ scarfed up
Speeddisk. Haven't since.
Pop-up Stopper and Ad-killer - lots of varieties. I guess the trick is to find
the ones that do the job yet don't plant their own scripts/bots.

Spybot give a lot of options, but can nag you about your
Limewire/Bearshare directories/files.
Adaware does a good job.
Both have update options in the prog.
If you can add/subtract from this list please feel free and if you have a
favorite hunting ground (online or offline - I'm in southern California) for
this type of software I'd be glad to hear about it.

Dr TCP most definitely. Highly likely to speed up your cable
connection. Here's the premise; Winders comes configged for a LAN not
a high latency cable/DSL connection (you know the old lowest common
denominator).
I use the analogy of 2 guys unloading a truckload of gravel. One guy
is on the truck and the other on the ground;
Are you ready to catch gravel?
I'm ready
I have a piece of gravel to throw.
I'm ready.
I'm throwing the gravel.
I caught the gravel.
Is it the same gravel I threw?
It looks the same.
I have another piece of gravel!

Use Dr TCP to up the size of your TCP receive window to match your
cable connection. To return to the analogy, much better to throw a
bag of gravel at a time; less crosstalk and more gravel in the air at
any one time. It upped my DLs from 1.4Mbit to 2.8Mbit/sec
---------------------------------------
Atom Time Pro. Sucks the REAL time from an atomic clock in Boulder
Colorado. If you register it, you can set it to do that
automatically. It's nice to know what time it really is.
http://www.atomtime.com/
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startup.cpl. It shows what really starts when your system boots and
tabs it so show what section of the registry it starts from. Enable,
disable, delete, do whatever you like to 'em. You know every piece of
software you put on the system are all wanting a piece of the action.
For example I don't need some little piece of Quicktime loading every
single time I boot on the off chance it can get thru the firewall and
find there is a version 1.23456 to replace my version 1.23455. Same
goes for all those crappy quickstart options that software loads into
memory and puts down by the system clock to load .2 milliseconds
faster the one time I use it out of the 1000 boots that I don't.
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
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XTeq. Lets you change damn near whatever you like on your system.
More options than any sane person will ever use. It also can be
configged to grey out the options that are not specific or tested on
your OS.
http://www.xteq.com/
---------------------------------------------
The old M$ regclean v4.1a is still a good thing to have around.
Expecially when you uninstall stuff and it leaves loose ends in the
registry.
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Can't be without my context shell extensions and property pages.
I have LOTS of 'em.
I get tabs for individual immediate virus scanning, dependancy, CRC16,
CRC32, MD5, and SHA1 checksum calculation tabs, filedate and time
editors, tabs for file viewers and Editors, tabs that show me what
icons are inside .dll and exe files and will extract and save them if
I want, indepth MP3 information popups, attribute editor tabs, tabs to
show subdirectory trees with the directories labeled by name and size,
context menu(right click) options to securely delete and overwrite
files, Select All in the context menu instead of going up to the top
of the screen for a dropdown menu,

That's some of my can't do without software....

Thanks very much.

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Steve said:
Hi,

My new system will be arriving shortly and although this question is a
little on the generic side I'm sure some will have suggestions that I
hadn't thought of. Basically, I'm polling to see which softwares people
use to secure the ship and keep it running smoothly. So far, it seems that
the following are necessaries:

Anti-Virus - seems like Norton's Corporate Edition does the job without
bloating things up

Firewall - not sure which is best here (I'll be subscribing to a cable
modem service through Adelphia) although I would rather take time to learn
how to set up a complex yet effective firewall than a simple one that
leaves you overly vunerable or overly restricted.

Norton Utilities - people seem to say it is good for tuning a system,
especially the defrager, but all the added thingies negate the good it
does.

Pop-up Stopper and Ad-killer - lots of varieties. I guess the trick is to
find the ones that do the job yet don't plant their own scripts/bots.


Mandrake 9.1 with a simple hosts file to block ads. Save ya about $300+ of
software costs if not more.
 
Zone Alarm Pro.

--
Herb Winston AMA 50438
Bonita Springs, FL

"He may look like an idiot,
and he may sound like an idiot,
but don't let him fool you.
He really is an idiot."

Mark Twain
 
I'm impressed with AVG. It picked up an OE worm that Norton completely
missed.
If oyu're using Norton Coprorate it will miss OE worms.


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ICQ:31909763
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