Epson v350 vs Epson 4490

funkyarmadillo · Jan 14, 2008

I want some recommendations on which one of the two would be a good
purchase. Price (for refurbished) is about the same. I cannot find
any real difference between the two looking at specs. So maybe
someone knows how they differ.. I currently use an Epson 2450 that I
like, but think one of these would be an upgrade. Thanks.

BTW: What is the deal with Digital ICE technology. A good thing? or
not.

Barry Watzman · Jan 14, 2008

Digital ICE is wonderful, I would not buy a scanner without it. But it
does not work on all film types. It's best, by far, for color
negatives, results with color slides vary greatly depending on the film
type and the exact implementation. But when it works (and it works very
well indeed on almost all color negatives), it's pure magic.

Robert Jasiek · Jan 14, 2008

I want some recommendations on which one of the two would be a good
purchase.

And one more question: how do they compare to the V10 with respect to
scanning books?

netcat · Jan 21, 2008

And one more question: how do they compare to the V10 with respect to
scanning books?

It seems like nobody wants to answer questions about V10 or V100.
I myself have stared at the Epson site for hours on end trying to
determine what the difference between those models is. There doesn't
seem to be any. Do you know, by any chance?

rgds,
netcat

Robert Jasiek · Jan 21, 2008

It seems like nobody wants to answer questions about V10 or V100.
I myself have stared at the Epson site for hours on end trying to
determine what the difference between those models is. There doesn't
seem to be any. Do you know, by any chance?

I have come to essentially the same conclusion

Giving Epson another call, they said that V10/V100 is not really for
scanning books because after 1 hour they need a pause to cool down.
However, it was a hopeless attempt to let them say anything about a
comparison to V350 and 4490, except that the latter "are better and
yet better". Testing in a local shop (Berlin) is no alternative,
either, because nowhere would they dare to connect any scanner to a PC
for a test scan (being afraid of losing money). And PC magazines? They
enjoy testing high end products more than ordinary consumer market
scanners. Sigh.

This leaves us with "Buy and throw away" or "Spend $1,000 for a decent
model right away"...

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If it helps you, here is my comparison table for Epson flatbeds
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netcat · Jan 22, 2008

Sorry, actually I meant - between V100 & and V200.
I _was_ going to buy a V100 but suddenly it has become unavailable.
The price difference between V10 and V200 is almost 2x where I am.

Myself, I'd actually be satisfied with a closer look at them physically,
before buying. Sadly there are no local stores that actually have Epsons
on display, I'd have to order online.

Giving Epson another call, they said that V10/V100 is not really for
scanning books because after 1 hour they need a pause to cool down.

Interesting. At the same time they pimp the hinged lid as extremely
convenient for scanning thick objects such as books. It is my
understanding many of their higher end scanners do not have such lids.

However, it was a hopeless attempt to let them say anything about a
comparison to V350 and 4490, except that the latter "are better and
yet better".

4490 _will_ be faster both in scan and rewind time than many cheaper
scanners. When scanning hundreds of pages/documents this may help save
you lots of time. If that's a factor. And I'm sure it's more durable.

Testing in a local shop (Berlin) is no alternative,
either, because nowhere would they dare to connect any scanner to a PC
for a test scan (being afraid of losing money).

If your main concern is overheating after hours of use, one test scan
will not help you anyway.

Do you actually _need_ to scan books without pause for hours? Work
pauses are supposed to be good for humans, too, you know

rgds,
netcat

Robert Jasiek · Jan 22, 2008

Myself, I'd actually be satisfied with a closer look at them physically,
before buying. Sadly there are no local stores that actually have Epsons
on display, I'd have to order online.

In that case, ensure that you get an option to cancel the purchase for
"any reason" within, say, 14 days. (Some retailers offer such, at
least in Germany.) E.g., if the flatbed glas would be damaged, you do
not need to keep the scanner then.

Do you actually _need_ to scan books without pause for hours?

No

CSM1 · Jan 22, 2008

There are real low cost book scanners available.

Here is one in the $300 range.
http://www.plustek.com/product/book3600.asp

Here is a commerical one, big $$$.
http://www.mid-america.com/scanning/minolta_book_scanners.html

Robert Jasiek · Jan 22, 2008

Here is one in the $300 range.
http://www.plustek.com/product/book3600.asp

Their customer support has told me that they would not be suitable for
the purpose of scanning art-like images from books. I conclude that
they may rather be designed for scanning text books and OCR.

For high quality image books, it appears that one needs an A3 scanner
from Microtek (some EUR 1,000 if new) or Epson (too expensive for the
consumer market).

Here is a commerical one, big $$$.
http://www.mid-america.com/scanning/minolta_book_scanners.html

Wow!

netcat · Jan 23, 2008

Their customer support has told me that they would not be suitable for
the purpose of scanning art-like images from books. I conclude that
they may rather be designed for scanning text books and OCR.

For high quality image books, it appears that one needs an A3 scanner
from Microtek (some EUR 1,000 if new) or Epson (too expensive for the
consumer market).

Most people I know scanning art larger than their scan surface simply
opt for scanning in several parts and using image stitching, after.

rgds,
netcat

Robert Jasiek · Jan 23, 2008

Most people I know scanning art larger than their scan surface simply
opt for scanning in several parts and using image stitching, after.

This may be cheaper, but I would not like the result. It is difficult
to get exactly the same lighting and interference. It may be good
enough for scanning text, charts, or flow diagrams though.

CSM1 · Jan 23, 2008

netcat said:
Most people I know scanning art larger than their scan surface simply
opt for scanning in several parts and using image stitching, after.

rgds,
netcat

If one does not need a commercial scanner with a CCD sensor, you can buy a
CIS based A3 scanner for much less money.

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=mustek+A3+scanner&um=1&ie=UTF-8

I have the Mustek Scanexpress A3 scanner, it is an earlier model, Max
resolution is 300 DPI.
The new models are 1200 DPI.

Ian Worthington · Jan 27, 2008

Robert said:
Their customer support has told me that they would not be suitable for
the purpose of scanning art-like images from books. I conclude that
they may rather be designed for scanning text books and OCR.

Really? From their web site its seems ideally suited to the task:
they're promoting it to comic book collectors. And the spec seems ok.

It looks an interesting product. Good thing its not A3 or I might be
forced to go buy one.

i

crabsallover · Feb 16, 2008

Really? From their web site its seems ideally suited to the task:
they're promoting it to comic book collectors. And the spec seems ok.

It looks an interesting product. Good thing its not A3 or I might be
forced to go buy one.

i

the real selling point of the Plustek Opticbook 3600 is that you can
scan up to the edge of a book spine without gettting shadows near the
spine.

Epson v350 vs Epson 4490

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