Epson R2400 icc profiles

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Hi all,
I have a R2400 connected to a Mac. I have a Samsung flatscreen monitor.

On sceeen the pictures look ok...but they look terrible when printed.
Too dark, too red.

I'm using the epson software like 'photoquicker' and the epson easy
printing software.
From the Epson site i downloaded the most recent driver and also the
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additional profiles for 3 kinds of Epson paper.

If i compare it with my with my Canon 9000, the Canon colors look more
'lively' and more 'real' , and they are more similar to the 'on screen'
colors.

What could be wrong??????

Kindest regards,
Peter
 
beeldbouwer said:
Hi all,
I have a R2400 connected to a Mac. I have a Samsung flatscreen monitor.

On sceeen the pictures look ok...but they look terrible when printed.
Too dark, too red.

I'm using the epson software like 'photoquicker' and the epson easy
printing software.

additional profiles for 3 kinds of Epson paper.

If i compare it with my with my Canon 9000, the Canon colors look more
'lively' and more 'real' , and they are more similar to the 'on screen'
colors.

What could be wrong??????

Kindest regards,
Peter
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Hi.

I suspect that your Mac may well be applying Colour Management in addition
to it being applied in the Epson Programs. The Profile would then be
getting used twice, and colours would be wrong.

It is only a guess, because I do all my photo work in Photoshop on a PC and
don't use Epson's Printing Programs, only the Printer Drivers.

Your Printer should be producing superb Colour and Mono prints.

Roy G
 
Hi all,
I have a R2400 connected to a Mac. I have a Samsung flatscreen monitor.

On sceeen the pictures look ok...but they look terrible when printed.
Too dark, too red.

I'm using the epson software like 'photoquicker' and the epson easy
printing software.

additional profiles for 3 kinds of Epson paper.

If i compare it with my with my Canon 9000, the Canon colors look more
'lively' and more 'real' , and they are more similar to the 'on screen'
colors.

What could be wrong??????

Kindest regards,
Peter
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LCD flat screen monitors are very difficult to color correct without
additional expensive hardware, and many serious photo retouchers out
there still use CRTs. The prints shouldn't be as far off as you say
they are, even with this problem. Try printing one with all the 'color
correcting' 'auto-retouch' 'auto red-eye removal' stuff turned /off/.

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beeldbouwer said:
Hi all,
I have a R2400 connected to a Mac. I have a Samsung flatscreen monitor.

On sceeen the pictures look ok...but they look terrible when printed.
Too dark, too red.

I'm using the epson software like 'photoquicker' and the epson easy
printing software.

additional profiles for 3 kinds of Epson paper.

If i compare it with my with my Canon 9000, the Canon colors look more
'lively' and more 'real' , and they are more similar to the 'on screen'
colors.

What could be wrong??????

Kindest regards,
Peter
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I just took a look at the Epson Easy Printing Software that came with
my R2400 and I don't see where it lets you turn color management off
and use paper profiles. So you should let the printer manage the
color in your printer dialog box and select color controls or ICM with
printer color management and see what happens. Be sure you select the
right paper. That being said, this isn't very good software; it is
totally inadequate for a sophisticated printer like the R2400

Check your printer for a clogged nozzle.

For best results use photoshop and if you print to paper profiles,
which gives me the best results, you need to go to Print Preview in
Photoshop and Let Photoshop determine the colors and then turn color
management off with the printer driver. (this is for a PC, Mac is a
little different but basically the same process.)Your problem sounds
like you have selected a paper profile but are still letting the
printer manage the colors. except I don't see how the Epson software
lets you do this. Perhaps just turning off printer color management
could do the same thing.

I am extremely pleased with my R2400; I like it better than my Canon
i9100 even though the 9100 is an excellent printer.

Dave
 
LCD flat screen monitors are very difficult to color correct without
additional expensive hardware, and many serious photo retouchers out
there still use CRTs. The prints shouldn't be as far off as you say
they are, even with this problem. Try printing one with all the 'color
correcting' 'auto-retouch' 'auto red-eye removal' stuff turned /off/.
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Decent LCDs aren't any more difficult to profile
than CRTs. The hardware is around $100 these
days, eg. Colorvision's Spyder, or a Gretag
Eye-One Monitor.

Many LCDs are set to a default brightness that's
way too high for serious photo editing. Best to
lower the brightness before profiling.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
There are several areas that might be involved. Color management is
always a bit tricky. If you have the wrong set up within the drivers,
you may be double managing or profiling your ink or paper, or image. Or
your monitor may be off relative to the printer.

You may need to read about Color Management and determine which CM
processes should be running and which should not. Unfortunately, I am
not proficient with Macs, but someone else here might be.

Art
 
This sounds like the symptoms of using double color management - from
the printer driver & from printing software both loaded at the same
time.
On a printer like this with "canned profiles", it is best to turn the
color management over to the software (Adobe Photoshop is recommended)
and turn off color management in the printer driver.

Epson PhotoQuicker software does not support ICC profiles. This is the
program that is included with Epson photo printers in Europe and other
parts of the world. In America they include Film Factory.
Neither of these programs are very good for printing and have no
support for ICC color profiles.

Also, Epson EasyPrint is only good for Adobe Photoshop Elements 3.0
and no other software that I am aware of. So, if you do not use
Elements 3.0 this program is of no value and may very well be the
culprit causing your color problems.

If you do have an Adobe program already installed on your system, make
sure that Adobe Gamma is not loading and also managing your colors.

You might check out the topic of color management on the Adobe site or
get a copy of Bruce Fraser's excellent book "Real World Color
Management".

Once you get the right software and color management settings your
prints should look truly outstanding.
 
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