Epson E139_1.ICM or individual paper driver?

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Beemer

I have an Epson 1290 (1280 in US), Photoshop CS2 and XP SP2. I have
recently had the Epson agent fit a new print head and I uninstalled then
reinstalled the Epson software. Now I have out-of-gamut warnings and the
prints are showing the colour loss.

My monitor gamma is set using Quickmonitor on startup (adobe gamma is set
not to start). Photoshop workspace is Adobe RGB 1998 and my image files
have embedded Adobe RGB 1998.

Printer colour management is set to "no colour management" and printing is
set for 1440dpi

I use print with preview and in the Epson driver I select Epson Premium
Photo Glossy.

In C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color I have:

(A) EE139_1.ICM (Combined profiles with all of the below)

as well as the separate profiles which Epson now have on their download page

(B) SP1290_360P.icm
SP1290_CL.icm
SP1290_GF.icm
SP1290_MP-H.icm
SP1290_PP.icm
SP1290_PQP.icm
SP1290_RC.icm

Is it wrong to have both A and B in the color folder?

Beemer
 
|I have an Epson 1290 (1280 in US), Photoshop CS2 and XP SP2. I have
| recently had the Epson agent fit a new print head and I uninstalled then
| reinstalled the Epson software. Now I have out-of-gamut warnings and the
| prints are showing the colour loss.
|
| My monitor gamma is set using Quickmonitor on startup (adobe gamma is set
| not to start). Photoshop workspace is Adobe RGB 1998 and my image files
| have embedded Adobe RGB 1998.
|
| Printer colour management is set to "no colour management" and printing is
| set for 1440dpi
|
| I use print with preview and in the Epson driver I select Epson Premium
| Photo Glossy.
|
| In C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color I have:
|
| (A) EE139_1.ICM (Combined profiles with all of the below)
|
| as well as the separate profiles which Epson now have on their download
page
|
| (B) SP1290_360P.icm
| SP1290_CL.icm
| SP1290_GF.icm
| SP1290_MP-H.icm
| SP1290_PP.icm
| SP1290_PQP.icm
| SP1290_RC.icm
|
| Is it wrong to have both A and B in the color folder?
|
| Beemer
|
|
 
There are two separate issues here, one if the head and the other is the
software.

Every Epson head is supposed to be calibrated when it is installed
within a printer. Epson provides a special proprietary software that
the installer is supposed to run to adjust the head voltages, which are
tested at the factory and indicated on the head as a series of numbers
which need to be installed into the software to correct for the head
voltage differences during manufacturing. There are also a number of
other setting in terms of the head geometry that need adjustment when a
new head is installed.

So, hopefully those have been dealt with by the Epson technician.

Then, there is the issue of the software and color management itself.

Unfortunately, I do am not using the current versions of Photoshop, and
therefore am not familiar with the more recent color management settings
used in Photoshop, so I can't tell you how to adjust the software
settings, nor do I have a 1290 so I am unsure of the profiles it
requires. However, there may be someone else who can help there, who
uses Photoshop CS2 and that printer.

PS, I can't afford a Beemer either ;-)

Art.
 
I have an Epson 1290 (1280 in US), Photoshop CS2 and XP SP2. I have
recently had the Epson agent fit a new print head and I uninstalled then
reinstalled the Epson software. Now I have out-of-gamut warnings and the
prints are showing the colour loss.

My monitor gamma is set using Quickmonitor on startup (adobe gamma is set
not to start). Photoshop workspace is Adobe RGB 1998 and my image files
have embedded Adobe RGB 1998.

Printer colour management is set to "no colour management" and printing is
set for 1440dpi

I use print with preview and in the Epson driver I select Epson Premium
Photo Glossy.

In C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color I have:

(A) EE139_1.ICM (Combined profiles with all of the below)

as well as the separate profiles which Epson now have on their download page

(B) SP1290_360P.icm
SP1290_CL.icm
SP1290_GF.icm
SP1290_MP-H.icm
SP1290_PP.icm
SP1290_PQP.icm
SP1290_RC.icm

Is it wrong to have both A and B in the color folder?
Click to expand...

In the folder means nothing, other than the profiles are available. No
where above do you say anything about choosing a particular profile in
PS. Did you just leave that bit out, or are you not choosing a paper
profile?
 
in message | On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:56:54 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers "Beemer"
|
| >I have an Epson 1290 (1280 in US), Photoshop CS2 and XP SP2. I have
| >recently had the Epson agent fit a new print head and I uninstalled then
| >reinstalled the Epson software. Now I have out-of-gamut warnings and the
| >prints are showing the colour loss.
| >
| >My monitor gamma is set using Quickmonitor on startup (adobe gamma is set
| >not to start). Photoshop workspace is Adobe RGB 1998 and my image files
| >have embedded Adobe RGB 1998.
| >
| >Printer colour management is set to "no colour management" and printing
is
| >set for 1440dpi
| >
| >I use print with preview and in the Epson driver I select Epson Premium
| >Photo Glossy.
| >
| >In C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color I have:
| >
| >(A) EE139_1.ICM (Combined profiles with all of the below)
| >
| >as well as the separate profiles which Epson now have on their download
page
| >
| >(B) SP1290_360P.icm
| > SP1290_CL.icm
| > SP1290_GF.icm
| > SP1290_MP-H.icm
| > SP1290_PP.icm
| > SP1290_PQP.icm
| > SP1290_RC.icm
| >
| >Is it wrong to have both A and B in the color folder?
|
| In the folder means nothing, other than the profiles are available. No
| where above do you say anything about choosing a particular profile in
| PS. Did you just leave that bit out, or are you not choosing a paper
| profile?

Ed,

When Epson launched the printer in 2003 they only provided the EE139_1.ICM
profile and the papers were selected within its driver. Now Epson have put
up the individual paper profiles I loaded them into the color folder but
using CS2 "Print with preview" I must still select a paper in the same
printer driver. I guess that the individual ones are not actually being
being used although I will rename the EE1391.ICM and see whether I can get
the Premium Glossy Photo paper profile to work.

I will also try just "print" in CS2 which might pick up individual profiles
but I'm reluctant to do this as I like the print with preview as a safeguard
to printing the wrong orientation.

Beemer
 
in message | On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:56:54 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers "Beemer"
|
| >I have an Epson 1290 (1280 in US), Photoshop CS2 and XP SP2. I have
| >recently had the Epson agent fit a new print head and I uninstalled then
| >reinstalled the Epson software. Now I have out-of-gamut warnings and the
| >prints are showing the colour loss.
| >
| >My monitor gamma is set using Quickmonitor on startup (adobe gamma is set
| >not to start). Photoshop workspace is Adobe RGB 1998 and my image files
| >have embedded Adobe RGB 1998.
| >
| >Printer colour management is set to "no colour management" and printing
is
| >set for 1440dpi
| >
| >I use print with preview and in the Epson driver I select Epson Premium
| >Photo Glossy.
| >
| >In C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color I have:
| >
| >(A) EE139_1.ICM (Combined profiles with all of the below)
| >
| >as well as the separate profiles which Epson now have on their download
page
| >
| >(B) SP1290_360P.icm
| > SP1290_CL.icm
| > SP1290_GF.icm
| > SP1290_MP-H.icm
| > SP1290_PP.icm
| > SP1290_PQP.icm
| > SP1290_RC.icm
| >
| >Is it wrong to have both A and B in the color folder?
|
| In the folder means nothing, other than the profiles are available. No
| where above do you say anything about choosing a particular profile in
| PS. Did you just leave that bit out, or are you not choosing a paper
| profile?

Ed,

When Epson launched the printer in 2003 they only provided the EE139_1.ICM
profile and the papers were selected within its driver. Now Epson have put
up the individual paper profiles I loaded them into the color folder but
using CS2 "Print with preview" I must still select a paper in the same
printer driver. I guess that the individual ones are not actually being
being used although I will rename the EE1391.ICM and see whether I can get
the Premium Glossy Photo paper profile to work.

I will also try just "print" in CS2 which might pick up individual profiles
but I'm reluctant to do this as I like the print with preview as a safeguard
to printing the wrong orientation.

Beemer
Click to expand...
 
Ed Ruf > said:
In the folder means nothing, other than the profiles are available. No
where above do you say anything about choosing a particular profile in
PS. Did you just leave that bit out, or are you not choosing a paper
profile?
Click to expand...

Hi.

It does not matter how many profiles you have in the Colour Folder.

The E139_1 profile is really only for those who do not use a Colour Managed
Graphics Program, and have to rely on the printer driver doing the Colour
work.

In Photoshop "Print with Preview" dialogues you should find that the "Source
Space" is "document" and the profile should be Adobe RGB.

In "Print Space" you should choose the profile "Epson Stylus 1290 Premium
Glossy".

Your other settings seem to be Ok.

Roy G
 
When Epson launched the printer in 2003 they only provided the EE139_1.ICM
profile and the papers were selected within its driver. Now Epson have put
up the individual paper profiles I loaded them into the color folder but
using CS2 "Print with preview" I must still select a paper in the same
printer driver. I guess that the individual ones are not actually being
being used although I will rename the EE1391.ICM and see whether I can get
the Premium Glossy Photo paper profile to work.

I will also try just "print" in CS2 which might pick up individual profiles
but I'm reluctant to do this as I like the print with preview as a safeguard
to printing the wrong orientation.
Click to expand...

I used to use an old 870. I now use an R800 but mainly print using
Qimage so I don't have the PS print dialog in my head and don't have
access to PS at work. I did check PSElements which I do have and there
is an explicit pull down menu to select and individual paper profile
in the print dialog once a "show more options" check box was checked.
You have to explicitly choose a profile yourself, so it sounds like
you are missing this step. Look in the PS help file for choosing a
printer profile, Elements help spelled this out.

I believe with the old combined profiles you are talking about is was
is used if you were to use color management in the Epson printer
driver itself. But iirc you still had to explicitly choose a profile
even then, but I haven't used the old 870 in ages so I could be wrong.
 
Beemer said:
"Ed Ruf >" <"Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!)" <[email protected]>
wrote
in message | On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:56:54 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers "Beemer"
|
| >I have an Epson 1290 (1280 in US), Photoshop CS2 and XP SP2. I have
| >recently had the Epson agent fit a new print head and I uninstalled
then
| >reinstalled the Epson software. Now I have out-of-gamut warnings and
the
| >prints are showing the colour loss.
| >
| >My monitor gamma is set using Quickmonitor on startup (adobe gamma is
set
| >not to start). Photoshop workspace is Adobe RGB 1998 and my image
files
| >have embedded Adobe RGB 1998.
| >
| >Printer colour management is set to "no colour management" and printing
is
| >set for 1440dpi
| >
| >I use print with preview and in the Epson driver I select Epson Premium
| >Photo Glossy.
| >
| >In C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color I have:
| >
| >(A) EE139_1.ICM (Combined profiles with all of the below)
| >
| >as well as the separate profiles which Epson now have on their download
page
| >
| >(B) SP1290_360P.icm
| > SP1290_CL.icm
| > SP1290_GF.icm
| > SP1290_MP-H.icm
| > SP1290_PP.icm
| > SP1290_PQP.icm
| > SP1290_RC.icm
| >
| >Is it wrong to have both A and B in the color folder?
|
| In the folder means nothing, other than the profiles are available. No
| where above do you say anything about choosing a particular profile in
| PS. Did you just leave that bit out, or are you not choosing a paper
| profile?

Ed,

When Epson launched the printer in 2003 they only provided the EE139_1.ICM
profile and the papers were selected within its driver. Now Epson have
put
up the individual paper profiles I loaded them into the color folder but
using CS2 "Print with preview" I must still select a paper in the same
printer driver. I guess that the individual ones are not actually being
being used although I will rename the EE1391.ICM and see whether I can get
the Premium Glossy Photo paper profile to work.

I will also try just "print" in CS2 which might pick up individual
profiles
but I'm reluctant to do this as I like the print with preview as a
safeguard
to printing the wrong orientation.

Beemer
Click to expand...
Hi.

This printer was launched in 1999, and a Silver version was released to mark
the Millenium.

The individual ICC Profiles have been available from some Epson Websites
much longer than 2003. The availability of these canned profiles was the
main reason I bought my 1290. (I had access to an EX before that, but
media profiles were never made available for it).

Roy G
 
|
| "Ed Ruf >" <"Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!)" <[email protected]>
wrote
| in message | > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:56:54 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers "Beemer"
| >
| >>I have an Epson 1290 (1280 in US), Photoshop CS2 and XP SP2. I have
| >>recently had the Epson agent fit a new print head and I uninstalled then
| >>reinstalled the Epson software. Now I have out-of-gamut warnings and
the
| >>prints are showing the colour loss.
| >>
| >>My monitor gamma is set using Quickmonitor on startup (adobe gamma is
set
| >>not to start). Photoshop workspace is Adobe RGB 1998 and my image files
| >>have embedded Adobe RGB 1998.
| >>
| >>Printer colour management is set to "no colour management" and printing
is
| >>set for 1440dpi
| >>
| >>I use print with preview and in the Epson driver I select Epson Premium
| >>Photo Glossy.
| >>
| >>In C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color I have:
| >>
| >>(A) EE139_1.ICM (Combined profiles with all of the below)
| >>
| >>as well as the separate profiles which Epson now have on their download
| >>page
| >>
| >>(B) SP1290_360P.icm
| >> SP1290_CL.icm
| >> SP1290_GF.icm
| >> SP1290_MP-H.icm
| >> SP1290_PP.icm
| >> SP1290_PQP.icm
| >> SP1290_RC.icm
| >>
| >>Is it wrong to have both A and B in the color folder?
| >
| > In the folder means nothing, other than the profiles are available. No
| > where above do you say anything about choosing a particular profile in
| > PS. Did you just leave that bit out, or are you not choosing a paper
| > profile?
|
| Hi.
|
| It does not matter how many profiles you have in the Colour Folder.
|
| The E139_1 profile is really only for those who do not use a Colour
Managed
| Graphics Program, and have to rely on the printer driver doing the Colour
| work.
|
| In Photoshop "Print with Preview" dialogues you should find that the
"Source
| Space" is "document" and the profile should be Adobe RGB.
|
| In "Print Space" you should choose the profile "Epson Stylus 1290 Premium
| Glossy".
|
| Your other settings seem to be Ok.
|
| Roy G

Roy,

Thanks all is now working as you stated.

Beemer
|
|
 
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