epson 3490 scanning area?

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Previously my scanners have always scanned whatever is viewable within
the glass area. I find, however with the perfection that it seems to
scan nowhere near the edge of the glass and it becomes quite difficult
trying to second guess where it will do... am I doing something wrong?
Of course this could be a software problem but it would be nice for
the thing to just scan what I place on the glass and leave it to me to
decide how much of it I keep or lose.

Once again thanks for any help
 
Paul Heslop said:
Previously my scanners have always scanned whatever is viewable within
the glass area. I find, however with the perfection that it seems to
scan nowhere near the edge of the glass and it becomes quite difficult
trying to second guess where it will do... am I doing something wrong?
Of course this could be a software problem but it would be nice for
the thing to just scan what I place on the glass and leave it to me to
decide how much of it I keep or lose.

Once again thanks for any help
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Placing documents on the scanner bed:
http://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/pr349p/pr349pug/set2_1.htm

Use the Professional mode.

You have much more control over the scanner and the scanning area

See Changing the scan mode.
http://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/pr349p/pr349pug/scan1_5.htm

Then read about Selection Basic Settings.
 
CSM1 said:
Placing documents on the scanner bed:
http://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/pr349p/pr349pug/set2_1.htm

Use the Professional mode.

You have much more control over the scanner and the scanning area

See Changing the scan mode.
http://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/pr349p/pr349pug/scan1_5.htm

Then read about Selection Basic Settings.
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Thanks... I'll do some trials later, but honestly, it tells you
there's some 5mm edge where you don't get a scan but I had an object
some half inch away from the side and still got short cut... anyway, i
will have another look at the pro stuff.
 
Previously my scanners have always scanned whatever is viewable within
the glass area. I find, however with the perfection that it seems to
scan nowhere near the edge of the glass and it becomes quite difficult
trying to second guess where it will do... am I doing something wrong?
Of course this could be a software problem but it would be nice for
the thing to just scan what I place on the glass and leave it to me to
decide how much of it I keep or lose.

Once again thanks for any help
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Hello, Paul. In the specs for the 3490, from the
Epson web site, I see this:

Transparency Unit

* 35mm Transparency Adapter, 3 negative/2 slide capacity

From the "Interactive Tour" it looks to me
like the transparency adapter only covers
a small scan area, centered along the long
axis of the scan bed, and roughly as wide
as a 35mm film strip.

So what exactly are you trying to scan,
and where are you placing it?

I own an old Epson 1640SU and a 4900. These
have very different TPAs, and both very
different from your 3490.

The old 1640's TPA covered exactly a 4x5" area.
It was basically a light source behind a piece
of white, translucent plastic. Its 4x5" surface
was illuminated at once, like the surface of
a light table.

The 4490 uses a completely different approach.

In the 4490, there's a flourescent tube inside
the lid, and it actually travels along with the
scan head, maintaining a constant position
relative to the scan head during the scan.
So it *does* allow scanning of transparencies
up to at least 8x10".

Bottom line: on your 3490, the area available
for transparencies is NOT the entire scan bed!


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
rafe said:
Hello, Paul. In the specs for the 3490, from the
Epson web site, I see this:

Transparency Unit

* 35mm Transparency Adapter, 3 negative/2 slide capacity

From the "Interactive Tour" it looks to me
like the transparency adapter only covers
a small scan area, centered along the long
axis of the scan bed, and roughly as wide
as a 35mm film strip.

So what exactly are you trying to scan,
and where are you placing it?

I own an old Epson 1640SU and a 4900. These
have very different TPAs, and both very
different from your 3490.

The old 1640's TPA covered exactly a 4x5" area.
It was basically a light source behind a piece
of white, translucent plastic. Its 4x5" surface
was illuminated at once, like the surface of
a light table.

The 4490 uses a completely different approach.

In the 4490, there's a flourescent tube inside
the lid, and it actually travels along with the
scan head, maintaining a constant position
relative to the scan head during the scan.
So it *does* allow scanning of transparencies
up to at least 8x10".

Bottom line: on your 3490, the area available
for transparencies is NOT the entire scan bed!


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
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Hi...

I have the 3200 photo - don't know how close it relates to
the 3490, but for whatever it may be worth the transparency
light is fixed, and is (about) 4 by 9 inches.

And for the OP, once you're in transparency mode, only
this 4 x 9 area is preview-visible.

Take care.

Ken
 
Previously my scanners have always scanned whatever is viewable within
the glass area. I find, however with the perfection that it seems to
scan nowhere near the edge of the glass and it becomes quite difficult
trying to second guess where it will do... am I doing something wrong?
Of course this could be a software problem but it would be nice for
the thing to just scan what I place on the glass and leave it to me to
decide how much of it I keep or lose.

Once again thanks for any help
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<http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/...e=yes&infoType=Doc&oid=58609&prodoid=53540928>

or

<http://tinyurl.com/pxj3h>


Click on the link for "Users Guide".

Then click on "Placing Originals on Scanner"

Then click on "Placing Film or Slides."


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
I have the 3200 photo - don't know how close it relates to
the 3490, but for whatever it may be worth the transparency
light is fixed, and is (about) 4 by 9 inches.
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It's clear from the 3490 user manual (available online)
that the transparency area is a narrow strip in the
center of the scan bed, aligned along the length of
the scan bed.

The film holder is designed to place the filmstrip
or slides in the proper position. It's all in the
manual.

Obviously, the various Epson flatbed/film scanners
have very different TPA areas. The 3490 can scan
one 35 mm filmstrip, or up to three slides.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
rafe said:
It's clear from the 3490 user manual (available online)
that the transparency area is a narrow strip in the
center of the scan bed, aligned along the length of
the scan bed.

The film holder is designed to place the filmstrip
or slides in the proper position. It's all in the
manual.

Obviously, the various Epson flatbed/film scanners
have very different TPA areas. The 3490 can scan
one 35 mm filmstrip, or up to three slides.

rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
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Sorry, folks, not transparencies, I don't know where that came from,
just general scans. Like last week I wanted to scan a document for my
wife, a timesheet, pretty much a black and white chart. I set it to
scan B&W and apart from rough edges, which I am learning about, the
first scan didn't even get the whole printed area, even though it was
well within the A4 sheet. A bit of juggling and I got it to scan only
the printed area, it wouldn't go any wider. I then switched to
greyscale and it scanned the whole sheet after one attempt which was
close to the printed area.

Yesterday I wanted to scan the inside leaf of a book, quite a large
book but again not wider than the glass area. No copyright
infringement here, btw, it was a library book and still had the old
ticket in it from the 70s which I thought was quaint. I placed the
book about quarter of an inch from the right edge and it cut off quite
a bit of the book's edge, so I moved it in again. I think it ended up
about half an inch from the edge before it scanned the area i was
interested in.

I know it's probably my own fault but like I said, my old scanners
pretty much scanned whatever was placed on that glass area... and
having a dead edge is stupid anyway, making aligning things much
harder. I have always aligned stuff to the bottom left corner and it
seems with the canon I now have to learn to align everything with the
bottom center.
 
Paul said:
Sorry, folks, not transparencies, I don't know where that came from,
just general scans. Like last week I wanted to scan a document for my
wife, a timesheet, pretty much a black and white chart. I set it to
scan B&W and apart from rough edges, which I am learning about, the
first scan didn't even get the whole printed area, even though it was
well within the A4 sheet. A bit of juggling and I got it to scan only
the printed area, it wouldn't go any wider. I then switched to
greyscale and it scanned the whole sheet after one attempt which was
close to the printed area.

Yesterday I wanted to scan the inside leaf of a book, quite a large
book but again not wider than the glass area. No copyright
infringement here, btw, it was a library book and still had the old
ticket in it from the 70s which I thought was quaint. I placed the
book about quarter of an inch from the right edge and it cut off quite
a bit of the book's edge, so I moved it in again. I think it ended up
about half an inch from the edge before it scanned the area i was
interested in.

I know it's probably my own fault but like I said, my old scanners
pretty much scanned whatever was placed on that glass area... and
having a dead edge is stupid anyway, making aligning things much
harder. I have always aligned stuff to the bottom left corner and it
seems with the canon I now have to learn to align everything with the
bottom center.
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Hi Paul...

Again possibly just a tiny bit of confusion in my mind, so if I'm
off course I apologize in advance :)

You _are_ masking that portion of the preview that you want scanned,
aren't you ?

I repeat that I have a different model (3200) but using the twain
driver into PSP, I can switch to professional mode, do a preview,
then draw a mask around as much or as little as I want scanned,
including the entire frame.

And while I have you - though I'm sure it's not related to your
current problem, it's probably worth mentioning. The software
that shipped on CD with my 3200 is not anywhere near as good as
the latest version downloadable free from Epson's site. Once more,
can't relate our two different models, but current for my 3200
is version 2.65a

Take care.

Ken
 
Ken said:
Hi Paul...

Again possibly just a tiny bit of confusion in my mind, so if I'm
off course I apologize in advance :)

You _are_ masking that portion of the preview that you want scanned,
aren't you ?

I repeat that I have a different model (3200) but using the twain
driver into PSP, I can switch to professional mode, do a preview,
then draw a mask around as much or as little as I want scanned,
including the entire frame.

And while I have you - though I'm sure it's not related to your
current problem, it's probably worth mentioning. The software
that shipped on CD with my 3200 is not anywhere near as good as
the latest version downloadable free from Epson's site. Once more,
can't relate our two different models, but current for my 3200
is version 2.65a

Take care.

Ken
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Thanks. I just use the software, I wouldn't even know where to start
scanning anywhere else. The mask thing is a mystery to me, though I
think I have heard it mentioned here a few times.

I'll take a look at the website though, thanks, you may be right
 
Paul said:
Thanks. I just use the software, I wouldn't even know where to start
scanning anywhere else. The mask thing is a mystery to me, though I
think I have heard it mentioned here a few times.

I'll take a look at the website though, thanks, you may be right
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Now that was strange. Software version on the website was 27t and on
my disc it's OE so I downloaded and installed 27t. It said I had to
restart my computer and then asked for the disc and reinstalled the
original software, so I am no better off. It wouldn't see the file in
my downloads folder when I tried to point it there instead.
 
Paul said:
Now that was strange. Software version on the website was 27t and on
my disc it's OE so I downloaded and installed 27t. It said I had to
restart my computer and then asked for the disc and reinstalled the
original software, so I am no better off. It wouldn't see the file in
my downloads folder when I tried to point it there instead.
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Hi Paul...

It's stranger than strange! :)

Just checked Epson's site; current version for your scanner is 2.75a

Dunno where the 27t and oe numbers came from, but they aren't Epson type
numbers. Epson's upgrades are free, they don't care that you prove that
you own the registered software before installing the upgrade. Sure you
aren't looking at Silverfast? (they did that to me, and really messed
me up badly)

Anyway, here's a link that you can look at. Also don't know if you
should use this one; it's the Canadian site - don't know if it might not
have some unpleasant side effect given that I believe you're in the UK.
(Pounds and dollars keys, etc). Hopefully you can find the UK equivalent.

http://www.epson.ca/cgi-bin/ceStore...oid=58609&infoType=Downloads&platform=Windows

To search out your region, go to epson.com; then you may choose your
own region. Click downloads on the top of the page, then scanners,
then epson perfection, then your model, then your operating system,
and so on... :)

Take care.

Ken
 
Ken Weitzel wrote:
http://www.epson.ca/cgi-bin/ceStore...oid=58609&infoType=Downloads&platform=Windows
To search out your region, go to epson.com; then you may choose your
own region. Click downloads on the top of the page, then scanners,
then epson perfection, then your model, then your operating system,
and so on... :)

Take care.

Ken
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Thanks ken, yeah i tried it all, don't know what it is up to but I
think I'm just going to have to muddle through. basically it looks
like if an image was actually a full A4 sheet wide i might have
problems at the right hand edge, but I will just have to keep
experimenting... or eventually drop them an email or something and see
what's what.
 
Just checked Epson's site; current version for your scanner is 2.75a

Dunno where the 27t and oe numbers came from, but they aren't Epson type
numbers.
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Epson Europe:-
http://tinyurl.com/gb4gy

"EPSON Scan (2.7t)
FileID 27354
Version 2.7t "
dated 30/11/2005

And I found(find) the stupid margin a nuisance trying to place things straight
without being able to put the paper into the corner of the bed - duh?

Geo
 
Geo said:
Epson Europe:-
http://tinyurl.com/gb4gy

"EPSON Scan (2.7t)
FileID 27354
Version 2.7t "
dated 30/11/2005

And I found(find) the stupid margin a nuisance trying to place things straight
without being able to put the paper into the corner of the bed - duh?

Geo
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Well that was the one I tried and that was the one that didn't work. I
have been messing around and it seems it won't scan an area much
bigger or ANY bigger than A4 and takes some messing around with to get
it aligned. If I put the object dead centre there is a definite offcut
at the right, so it has to be slightly left of center too.
 
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