Epson 1280 - taking the plunge bulk pigment ink

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Taking the plunge with Media Street Generations ProPhoto (g5) ink. I
went with this since they actually do maintain a list of ICC profiles,
and seem to claim they can do some custom profiles, though I don't
know if they charge for this service. They might not, they might
enjoy getting other people to pay for the ink and paper to submit to
them.

Should be grand fun.

Ordered it today,we'll see how well the stuff works.
 
Taking the plunge with Media Street Generations ProPhoto (g5) ink. I
went with this since they actually do maintain a list of ICC profiles,
and seem to claim they can do some custom profiles, though I don't
know if they charge for this service. They might not, they might
enjoy getting other people to pay for the ink and paper to submit to
them.

Should be grand fun.

Ordered it today,we'll see how well the stuff works.
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You should also order a new printer since you will probably ruin this one.
In any event your photo quality will be less and your results will fade
faster.
 
meassher-shit-head said:
You should also order a new printer since you will probably ruin this one.
Liar!

In any event your photo quality will be less and your results will fade
faster.
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More of your incessant and insidious lies!
Get lost you austrian fascist atheist creep.
 
You should also order a new printer since you will probably ruin this one.
In any event your photo quality will be less and your results will fade
faster.
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My photos will fade faster? Using pigment ink?
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ist/WIR_ISTpaper_2002_02_HW.pdf

[under glass bare bulb]
OEM on colorlife paper 26 years
OEM on Epson Heavy Matte 25 years
OEM on Epson Premium Glossy 9 years
OEM on Epson Photopaper 6 years
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/pdf/additional_wir/WIR_Permanence_06_2000.pdf


This isn't very good.

I have yet to find a full release on the Mediastreet inks but 100
years seems to be the advertised number citing a Wilhelm test.
http://www.mwords.co.uk/catalog/articles_info.php?articles_id=50

"Enhanced Generations Black = 75% Pigment/25% Dye Black, rated beyond
100 Years*
Enhanced Generations Yellow = 100% Pigment Yellow (version G4). This
is a cooler, lemon Yellow. Rated beyond 100 Years*
Enhanced Generations Cyan = 100% Pigment Cyan, rated beyond 100 Years*
Enhanced Generations Magenta = 100% Pigment Magenta, rated beyond 100
Years*
Enhanced Generations Lite Cyan = 100% Pigment "Lite Cyan", rated
beyond 100 Years*
Enhanced Generations Lite Magenta = 100% Pigment "Lite Magenta", rated
beyond 100 Years*"

"Standard Generations Black = 100% Pigment Black, rated beyond 100
Years*
Standard Generations Yellow = 100% Pigment Yellow (version G3). This
is a warm, orangey yellow that has been rated at 18 to 20 Years before
noticeable fading may occur
Standard Generations Cyan = 100% Pigment Cyan, rated beyond 100 Years*
Standard Generations Magenta = 100% Pigment Magenta, rated beyond 100
Years*
Standard Generations Lite Cyan = 100% Pigment "Lite Cyan", rated
beyond 100 Years*
Standard Generations Lite Magenta = 100% Pigment "Lite Magenta", rated
beyond 100 Years*"

*Testing & Certification for 100 Years Before Noticeable Fading has
been contracted with The Wilhelm Research Institute by Media Street,
Inc. Updated October 31st, 2001.
 
One very important caveat regarding changing ink types with Epson
printers (or any using permanent heads. A number of printer inks do NOT
mix well and can cause clog and clotting when mixed. Some to the point
of ruining the heads.

I now recommend the following procedure with all colors (including black).

1) If possible buy a set of refillable ink cartridges which are virgin
and fill them with distilled water. Run the printer until the heads
seem to be running clear water without colorant. The best way to do
this is to print onto scrap paper, rather than running ink cleaning
cycles which will saturate the waste pads with ink.

2) If the ink company provided cleaning cartridges, use them next as
instructed.

3) Depending upon the instructions, you may need to run another set of
distilled water cleaning to flush the cleaner.

4) Load the new ink cartridges and run them until the distilled water in
the heads is used up and pure undiluted ink is coming out. Again,
better to print on scrap paper than running head cleanings.


The 1280 is capable of using most brands of pigment colorant inks
without problems is properly maintained and cleaned.

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
You should also order a new printer since you will probably ruin this one.
In any event your photo quality will be less and your results will fade
faster.
Click to expand...

My photos will fade faster? Using pigment ink?
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ist/WIR_ISTpaper_2002_02_HW.pdf

[under glass bare bulb]
OEM on colorlife paper 26 years
OEM on Epson Heavy Matte 25 years
OEM on Epson Premium Glossy 9 years
OEM on Epson Photopaper 6 years
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/pdf/additional_wir/WIR_Permanence_06_2000.pdf


This isn't very good.

I have yet to find a full release on the Mediastreet inks but 100
years seems to be the advertised number citing a Wilhelm test.
http://www.mwords.co.uk/catalog/articles_info.php?articles_id=50

"Enhanced Generations Black = 75% Pigment/25% Dye Black, rated beyond
100 Years*
Enhanced Generations Yellow = 100% Pigment Yellow (version G4). This
is a cooler, lemon Yellow. Rated beyond 100 Years*
Enhanced Generations Cyan = 100% Pigment Cyan, rated beyond 100 Years*
Enhanced Generations Magenta = 100% Pigment Magenta, rated beyond 100
Years*
Enhanced Generations Lite Cyan = 100% Pigment "Lite Cyan", rated
beyond 100 Years*
Enhanced Generations Lite Magenta = 100% Pigment "Lite Magenta", rated
beyond 100 Years*"

"Standard Generations Black = 100% Pigment Black, rated beyond 100
Years*
Standard Generations Yellow = 100% Pigment Yellow (version G3). This
is a warm, orangey yellow that has been rated at 18 to 20 Years before
noticeable fading may occur
Standard Generations Cyan = 100% Pigment Cyan, rated beyond 100 Years*
Standard Generations Magenta = 100% Pigment Magenta, rated beyond 100
Years*
Standard Generations Lite Cyan = 100% Pigment "Lite Cyan", rated
beyond 100 Years*
Standard Generations Lite Magenta = 100% Pigment "Lite Magenta", rated
beyond 100 Years*"

*Testing & Certification for 100 Years Before Noticeable Fading has
been contracted with The Wilhelm Research Institute by Media Street,
Inc. Updated October 31st, 2001.
Click to expand...
 
One very important caveat regarding changing ink types with Epson
printers (or any using permanent heads. A number of printer inks do NOT
mix well and can cause clog and clotting when mixed. Some to the point
of ruining the heads.

I now recommend the following procedure with all colors (including black).

1) If possible buy a set of refillable ink cartridges which are virgin
and fill them with distilled water. Run the printer until the heads
seem to be running clear water without colorant. The best way to do
this is to print onto scrap paper, rather than running ink cleaning
cycles which will saturate the waste pads with ink.

2) If the ink company provided cleaning cartridges, use them next as
instructed.

3) Depending upon the instructions, you may need to run another set of
distilled water cleaning to flush the cleaner.

4) Load the new ink cartridges and run them until the distilled water in
the heads is used up and pure undiluted ink is coming out. Again,
better to print on scrap paper than running head cleanings.

The 1280 is capable of using most brands of pigment colorant inks
without problems is properly maintained and cleaned.
Click to expand...


Thanks Art. Mediastreet bumped me up to Generations G-Chrome g6 ink
rather than g5.

For this project, I bought a low priced empty CIS system. If that
doesn't pan out, well the self resetting chips will be handy to refill
the OEM cartridges. My game plan was to use your cleaning solution
first. I was also going to route the ink waste tube to a handy dandy
external tank.
 
After cleaning the heads with the solution in my manual, I still suggest
distilled water.

Lately, there have been reports of incompatibilities between some OEM
ink components and 3rd party inks. There are even some unsubstantiated
suggestions that OEM inks may now be doped with special ingredients
designed to cause clots and clogs if 3rd party inks are mixed with them.

Since I can't substantiate this and can't determine which OEM inks might
react with which 3rd party inks, I am now suggesting people take extra
precautions.

Art



If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
 
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