? Envelope Icon Dropdown Menu Read News Leads to Reg. OE

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Nehmo Sergheyev

In IE6, using Windows XP Home (SP1)

I used to have it so that when I used the dropdown menu by the envelope
icon and clicked on Read News, I got OE newsreader.
Now, however (after I upgraded Office to 2003), when click on Read News,
I get the regular OE mail program with an inbox. I want to get just the
newsreader. I realize I can create a shortcut on the desktop to
"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /outnews
and I could just use that, but I'd like it as it was before.
I already have OE as the default Newsreader.



In IE6, how to I get Read News option of the envelope icon dropdown menu
to lead to OE Newsreader?

(I use Outlook 2003 for my mail, and someone else uses OE for theirs.
When I go to the Newsreader, I don't want to bother with their inbox.)
 
In Windows Explorer, go to View (or Tools) | Folder Options | File Types and
check the values for URL:News Protocol (click edit, open, edit). If that
type does not exist, then create a new type with the description being
"URL:News Protocol". The values should read:

application:

"C:\PROGRAM FILES\OUTLOOK EXPRESS\MSIMN.EXE" /newsurl:%1
(Check the path to msimn.exe to make sure that is correct)

See OL 2003 Help for instructions on adding the Outlook Newsreader
(admittedly OE in disguise) shortcut to OL View>Go to menu.
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~Robear Dyer (aka PA Bear)
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Nehmo Sergheyev wrote:

Do you each have your own Windows Log-on/Profile? You should, in which case
each of you would have your own OE Identity and you wouldn't have access to
their inbox at all. Furthermore, you'd want to be using OE in "news only"
mode:

Start>Run>"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /outnews (exactly as
written, complete with quotes and space).
 
- Nehmo -
- PA Bear -
In Windows Explorer, go to View (or Tools) | Folder Options | File Types and
check the values for URL:News Protocol (click edit, open, edit). If that
type does not exist, then create a new type with the description being
"URL:News Protocol". The values should read:

application:

"C:\PROGRAM FILES\OUTLOOK EXPRESS\MSIMN.EXE" /newsurl:%1
(Check the path to msimn.exe to make sure that is correct)

See OL 2003 Help for instructions on adding the Outlook Newsreader
(admittedly OE in disguise) shortcut to OL View>Go to menu.
Click to expand...

- Nehmo -
When I goto
Windows Explorer > Tools > Folder Options > File Types tab > (let it
search for a list of file types, and I didn't find URL:News listed but
I'm not sure it wasn't there. I acted before I looked in the [NONE]
extension category at the beginning of the list ) > New button > Gets
the Create New Extension box > Press Advanced > Wait for drop down list
to form > In the text entry box that asks for an extension I put [NONE]
and in the and dropdown list of one item is your URL:News Protocol,
which I selected> OK > Select URL:News Protocol item> Advanced> Edit
button > then I put "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe"
/outnews in the application used to perform this action. When I tired
the switch you suggested, /newsurl;%1 , nothing was accomplished
(regular OE opened). When I used /outnews , a news link, for example,
, in the address bar of IE6 will open OE newsreader. I
want this, but still when I use the drop down arrow by the envelope icon
in IE6, I still get regular OE with an inbox.

In my Outlook 2003, Go > News > OE newsreader opens as it should. I got
this going simply by making OE newsreader my default newsreader via
Control Panel > Internet Options > Programs (Incidentally, there's a
little bug here. Once you do this OE will ask if it should be the
default newsreader. You need to say No at this point.) Anyway, getting
OE newsreader via the Outlook Go menu works.

I'm familiar with the method of making the desktop shortcut to
"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /outnews

To summarize:
A news URL in IE's address bar opens OE newsreader correctly
Getting the OE newsreader via an Outlook menu works okay.
A desktop shortcut works okay.

The method of getting OE newsreader via the dropdown by the envelope
icon in IE doesn't get the OE newsreader - it gets regular OE.

What I'm trying to do is get the thing by the envelope icon working
right.
 
- Nehmo -inbox.)

- PA Bear -
Do you each have your own Windows Log-on/Profile?
Click to expand...

- Nehmo -
Yes, I have two profiles set up, but we dislike changing profiles just
to send an email because changing profiles takes time. And besides, she
likes OE better than Outlook. So I use Outlook, and she uses OE, and she
never opens her profile.

- PA Bear -
You should, in which case
each of you would have your own OE Identity and you wouldn't have access to
their inbox at all. Furthermore, you'd want to be using OE in "news only"

Start>Run>"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /outnews (exactly as
written, complete with quotes and space).
Click to expand...

- Nehmo -
I'm familiar with that method of getting OE newsreader. I'm trying to
get it via the dropdown menu by the envelope icon in IE. It used to
work, but it stopped when I upgraded Office form 2000 to 2003.
 
| - Nehmo -
| > >>>> (I use Outlook 2003 for my mail, and someone else uses OE for
| theirs.
| > >>>> When I go to the Newsreader, I don't want to bother with their
| inbox.)
|
| - PA Bear -
| > Do you each have your own Windows Log-on/Profile?
|
| - Nehmo -
| Yes, I have two profiles set up, but we dislike changing profiles just
| to send an email because changing profiles takes time. And besides, she
| likes OE better than Outlook. So I use Outlook, and she uses OE, and she
| never opens her profile.
|
| - PA Bear -
| > You should, in which case
| > each of you would have your own OE Identity and you wouldn't have
| access to
| > their inbox at all. Furthermore, you'd want to be using OE in "news
| only"
| > mode:
|
| > Start>Run>"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /outnews
| (exactly as
| > written, complete with quotes and space).
|
| - Nehmo -
| I'm familiar with that method of getting OE newsreader. I'm trying to
| get it via the dropdown menu by the envelope icon in IE. It used to
| work, but it stopped when I upgraded Office form 2000 to 2003.

Then I think it's a case of WYSIWYG, Nehmo, using the machine as the two of
you are doing.

Using the Force Identity Log-on would at least keep the two of you
separated: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/forceid.htm
 
- Nehmo - My original question:
In IE6, how to I get Read News option of the envelope icon dropdown menu
to lead to OE Newsreader?
| > >>>> (I use Outlook 2003 for my mail, and someone else uses OE for
| theirs.
| > >>>> When I go to the Newsreader, I don't want to bother with their
| inbox.)
Click to expand...

- PA Bear -
| > Do you each have your own Windows Log-on/Profile?
Click to expand...

- Nehmo -
| Yes, I have two profiles set up, but we dislike changing profiles just
| to send an email because changing profiles takes time. And besides, she
| likes OE better than Outlook. So I use Outlook, and she uses OE, and she
| never opens her profile.
Click to expand...

- PA Bear -
| > You should, in which case
| > each of you would have your own OE Identity and you wouldn't have
| access to
| > their inbox at all. Furthermore, you'd want to be using OE in "news
| only"
| > mode:
|
| > Start>Run>"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /outnews
| (exactly as
| > written, complete with quotes and space).
Click to expand...

- Nehmo -
| I'm familiar with that method of getting OE newsreader. I'm trying to
| get it via the dropdown menu by the envelope icon in IE. It used to
| work, but it stopped when I upgraded Office form 2000 to 2003.
Click to expand...

- PA Bear -
Then I think it's a case of WYSIWYG, Nehmo, using the machine as the two of
you are doing.
Click to expand...

- Nehmo -
The term WYSIWYG isn't appropriate. {You might be meaning WYSIWYD (D
meaning Deserve :-) }. I'm clicking on News; that's what I should get -
not OE mail. And as I said, I can get OE News via the Outlook menu item.

Before I upgraded Outlook (which, in addition to basic installing of
Outlook 2003, involved resetting my default newsreader), the envelope
icon menu News item worked properly. I have a feeling there's something
in the IE registry that determines how OE opens when the News menu item
is clicked. I'll figure it out. I have InCtrl5. I'll track what changes
are made when I change my default newsreader to Agent.

- PA Bear -
Using the Force Identity Log-on would at least keep the two of you
separated: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/forceid.htm
Click to expand...

- Nehmo -
Well, my wife can just open OE from the start menu. And I can open
Outlook any old way. It's really not a super problem in terms of being
workaroundable. I'm just trying to solve an unsolved question that I'm
sure is solvable.

Regarding your suggestion, I just recently saw that vbs on Tom Koch's
site. It makes some registry changes when you open OE. I don't really
need it. OE opens in the correct identities for us. As I said, I use
Outlook for mail.

But incidentally, and somewhat irrelevantly, I just found a registry
change for IE for the Help URL.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Help_Menu_URLs

You can change it to whatever you want. For example, if you're on Road
Runner in Kansas City, you might want their chat help:
http://help.rr.com/getpage.asp?/asp/rrchat2.asp?poolname=TW-KansasCity,suppserv
I think an non-ISP-branded IE uses
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/



[I added news:microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize to the crossposting]
 
You would if you each had your own Windows Log-on.

Yes, because only you use OL. OE is apparently configured to always open to
her Identity, which it wouldn't be if Force Identity Log-on was used.

I'm sure there is. It's not uncommon for an install of OL to break Registry
associations with OE (and, by extension, IE). If your newsreader opens
properly from OL View>Go to>News, access it that way and move on to more
important matters.

YMMV.
 
Nehmo Sergheyev said:
- Nehmo - My original question:
In IE6, how to I get Read News option of the envelope icon dropdown
menu to lead to OE Newsreader?
Click to expand...

If you choose Outlook as the default newsreader, then Outlook will open OE
without the mail features.
 
Yeah, they're all so friendly to us Black Sheep OE MVPs. Mebbe we can
hornswaggle 'em in April!?
 
PA Bear said:
Yeah, they're all so friendly to us Black Sheep OE MVPs. Mebbe we can
hornswaggle 'em in April!?
Click to expand...

Sounds like a plan.
Some of them actually can be friendly.
 
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