Enter Key Problem Still A Mystery

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Nate

****After XP loads, both Enter keys stop working shortly
afterwards
or when any other program is opened****

After contacting Microsoft, I was told they didn't have
an answer.
I contacted IBM, the company that made my keyboard,
nothing.
I've tried 3 new keyboards, nothing. I uninstalled
virtually
all software, nothing. I removed all service packs and
security
patches, nothing. I have even tried a repair with the XP
CD,
nothing.

I give up. I really don't want to reformat my entire HD
and reinstall windows just because my enter key decided
it didn't
want to function. Anyone, anywhere, anyhow, please
research this.
There must be a solid answer somewhere...this is
essentially my
last resort. Thank you. (keyboard is not USB)




ps- interestingly enough, Ctrl and enter works on occasion
(like notepad), but
rarely. Every once in a while, I use CAPS and Enter may
work.
 
Nate said:
****After XP loads, both Enter keys stop working shortly
afterwards
or when any other program is opened****

After contacting Microsoft, I was told they didn't have
an answer.
I contacted IBM, the company that made my keyboard,
nothing.
I've tried 3 new keyboards, nothing. I uninstalled
virtually
all software, nothing. I removed all service packs and
security
patches, nothing. I have even tried a repair with the XP
CD,
nothing.

I give up. I really don't want to reformat my entire HD
and reinstall windows just because my enter key decided
it didn't
want to function. Anyone, anywhere, anyhow, please
research this.
There must be a solid answer somewhere...this is
essentially my
last resort. Thank you. (keyboard is not USB)




ps- interestingly enough, Ctrl and enter works on occasion
(like notepad), but
rarely. Every once in a while, I use CAPS and Enter may
work.
Click to expand...
I am sorry I have not conforting idea for all those who suffer from this
phenomenon but ... I remember almost getting flamed when, on a different
MS NG, I suggested NOT to install patches, hotfixes or service packs
UNLESS you were sure you needed them and to always have a full partition
back-up handy. A good firewall and an up-to-date antivirus are the best
approach for private users and installing all those patches and such is
IMHO looking for trouble. Staying away from Outlook for email is also an
option, no offense meant for MS. For businesses who have IT depts, it is
of course a different story.

I learnt this the hard way long ago when Win2k took hours to shut-down
after a patch. Eventually, nothing cured the problem and I had to
restore a back-up partition.

Good luck

Regards
 
I don't know if this could apply to you Nate but I was having the same enter button problem. An earlier post mentions that internet explorer is still running a process when the program is closed, and also made mention to the possibility of a problem with a pop-up blocker. MSN's toolbar uses iexplore.exe, and has a built-in pop-up blocker. Removal of the toolbar, if you have it, should fix your enter button error

Hope this works for everyone else too

----- Nate wrote: ----

****After XP loads, both Enter keys stop working shortly
afterward
or when any other program is opened***

After contacting Microsoft, I was told they didn't have
an answer
I contacted IBM, the company that made my keyboard,
nothing.
I've tried 3 new keyboards, nothing. I uninstalled
virtuall
all software, nothing. I removed all service packs and
securit
patches, nothing. I have even tried a repair with the XP
CD
nothing

I give up. I really don't want to reformat my entire H
and reinstall windows just because my enter key decided
it didn'
want to function. Anyone, anywhere, anyhow, please
research this
There must be a solid answer somewhere...this is
essentially m
last resort. Thank you. (keyboard is not USB




ps- interestingly enough, Ctrl and enter works on occasio
(like notepad), bu
rarely. Every once in a while, I use CAPS and Enter may
work
 
You say "For businesses who have IT depts, it is of course a different
story."
Why?
Because they know the patches are needed and thus install the patches?
A home computer needs the updates almost as much as a business
computer.
Without patches the losses to business can be all data on the hard
drive.
Without patches the losses to home users can be all data on the hard
drive.
What is the difference? Businesses usually have a better back-up
plan.

You also said "UNLESS you were sure you needed them"
How do you determine that?
Many users do not realize their computers are networked and often skip
any patch associated with a network.
The best suggestion you could have given is to install all Critical
Updates.
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/update.htm

If you got flamed in the past, it was for your bad advice.
Just because you are unable to properly prepare your computer and are
further unable to learn from your mistake, is not a good reason to
suggest to others to follow you into the same hole.
 
Jupiter said:
You say "For businesses who have IT depts, it is of course a different
story."
Why?
Because they know the patches are needed and thus install the patches?
A home computer needs the updates almost as much as a business
computer.
Without patches the losses to business can be all data on the hard
drive.
Without patches the losses to home users can be all data on the hard
drive.
What is the difference? Businesses usually have a better back-up
plan.

You also said "UNLESS you were sure you needed them"
How do you determine that?
Many users do not realize their computers are networked and often skip
any patch associated with a network.
The best suggestion you could have given is to install all Critical
Updates.
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/update.htm

If you got flamed in the past, it was for your bad advice.
Just because you are unable to properly prepare your computer and are
further unable to learn from your mistake, is not a good reason to
suggest to others to follow you into the same hole.
Click to expand...
Well Jupiter, what a thunder!

Let me put it another way: I suggest using common sense, not blindly
installing what MS says is critical (what is critical for a user
probably is not for another) and in doubt, for lack of expertise for
instance, ask expert advice before installing anything and let others be
the guinea pig.

This is why it is a different story for IT depts.

You might have recognized the value of having a backup partition (on a
different disk preferably) along with a good AV and Firewall.

The points you try to make would carry a much greater weight if MS
patches and Service Packs were more often trouble-free and if MS update
policy and system was more clear and understandable for the average
user. From what I understand, it looks like MS intends to do something
about this.

Your last sentence is totally uncalled for and I suggest you devote the
same energy in helping those poor guys without an Enter key instead of
demeaning those who go against the grain.

Best regards
 
"thunder", well if that is what you call it.
Whatever you think, however it should be pointed out when someone
suggests not patching without giving adequate explanation of why.
You should know the average user often can not understand the details
of exactly what a patch does.
That is one of the reasons for having some labeled "Critical Updates",
then the user has a better idea.
By the way, a Critical Update is not always a security update.
Maybe Microsoft can change it, maybe Microsoft should, but that is
beyond the scope of this discussion.

"A good firewall and an up-to-date antivirus are the best approach for
private users and installing all those patches and such is IMHO
looking for trouble."
This statement on that post is a problem because it may let users
believe patches are not necessary.
Users may have vulnerable computers because of your suggestion as well
as severely limited a major component of the layered protection of the
computer.
You should explain in detail what should and what should not be
installed and under what circumstances it applies.
Your half information on that post is potentially dangerous.

Your last sentence is really just a shot at suggesting I should
research more a specific issue, maybe I should and maybe I shouldn't,
but that is not for you to determine or even suggest.

As long as I see bad advice especially when it potentially affects the
security of the computer, I will say what I feel.

This is clearly off topic for this particular thread so respond only
if you need the last word and like to read your own posts.
 
Jupiter Jones said:
A home computer needs the updates almost as much as a business
computer.
Without patches the losses to business can be all data on the hard
drive.
Without patches the losses to home users can be all data on the hard
drive.
What is the difference? Businesses usually have a better back-up
plan.
Click to expand...

I agree with Jupiter installing every patch you can is one of the best
things you can do to keep your computer secure. Antivirus and Firewalls
should also be used.
 
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