Embellish

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Concerning your page at
http://www.pricelessware.org/2003/PL2003GRAPHICS.htm
it has some errors in regards to Embellish.

1) it was *NEVER* a shareware product.
It was commercial and a superior product, at a lower cost than the
PaintShopPro product which Windows users were being told to buy at the
time.

Due to several amazing "accidents" at various magazines, Embellish
advertisements were moved away from graphics articles (where PaintShopPro
adverts would magically appear instead), the reviews by the magazines were
delayed for months, even the first CD multimedia advert in Australian
history suffered when the magazine without notice rearranged their layout &
by accident made the advert almost impossible to find -- all of about six
people found it, though the magazine quickly suggested the concept of
multimedia ads to everyone elese & within two months every courier & most
major companies had their own multimedia ads on the magaine CD's.
(why did these accidents keep happening? Because Dadaware was independant &
Embellish was up against PaintShopPro which was an over price piece of crap
being pushed by the largest software house, and therefore largest
advertising customer of the magazine.)

2) I have no idea what this http://www.sharemation.com place is that you
list, though I'd be supprised if it were there with Joe's permission. Both
the OS/2 and Windows versions of Embellish are available at
http://www.dadaware.com free of charge, with no restriction of use, & no
silly sign up system.

3) FYI: Embellish records every brush-stroke or new element as a seperate
object placed above the existing items. This allows easy creation of
animated effects as well as editing any of them latter. Just double click
the hand symbol (in the selection tools) and the object manager pops up;
from where you can move objects, re-arrange them, fade, or best of all,
feather them. It also allows you to select any combination of objects or to
make some non-visible when desired, and want to combine some or merge them
into the base image? - just use the "Objects" menu. Simple & straight
forward tool design, excellent.
Combined with excellent colour and filter effects controls & a excellent
saving options system that was years ahead of its competitors; it's still
my perfered tool for many operations.

Please download & test it out for yourselves - a thousand times simpler
than Gimp, & still with 95% of everything one needs; this is one tool that
should be mimic on the Open Source arena ASAP with full credit to Joe who
designed & wrote the original by himself.
 
Concerning your page at
http://www.pricelessware.org/2003/PL2003GRAPHICS.htm
it has some errors in regards to Embellish.

1) it was *NEVER* a shareware product.
It was commercial and a superior product, at a lower cost than the
PaintShopPro product which Windows users were being told to buy at the
time.

Due to several amazing "accidents" at various magazines, Embellish
advertisements were moved away from graphics articles (where
PaintShopPro adverts would magically appear instead), the reviews by
the magazines were delayed for months, even the first CD multimedia
advert in Australian history suffered when the magazine without notice
rearranged their layout & by accident made the advert almost
impossible to find -- all of about six people found it, though the
magazine quickly suggested the concept of multimedia ads to everyone
elese & within two months every courier & most major companies had
their own multimedia ads on the magaine CD's.
(why did these accidents keep happening? Because Dadaware was
independant &
Embellish was up against PaintShopPro which was an over price piece of
crap being pushed by the largest software house, and therefore largest
advertising customer of the magazine.)

2) I have no idea what this http://www.sharemation.com place is that
you list, though I'd be supprised if it were there with Joe's
permission. Both the OS/2 and Windows versions of Embellish are
available at http://www.dadaware.com free of charge, with no
restriction of use, & no silly sign up system.

3) FYI: Embellish records every brush-stroke or new element as a
seperate object placed above the existing items. This allows easy
creation of animated effects as well as editing any of them latter.
Just double click the hand symbol (in the selection tools) and the
object manager pops up; from where you can move objects, re-arrange
them, fade, or best of all, feather them. It also allows you to select
any combination of objects or to make some non-visible when desired,
and want to combine some or merge them into the base image? - just use
the "Objects" menu. Simple & straight forward tool design, excellent.
Combined with excellent colour and filter effects controls & a
excellent
saving options system that was years ahead of its competitors; it's
still my perfered tool for many operations.

Please download & test it out for yourselves - a thousand times
simpler
than Gimp, & still with 95% of everything one needs; this is one tool
that should be mimic on the Open Source arena ASAP with full credit to
Joe who designed & wrote the original by himself.
Click to expand...

The d/l links are not working. From the site..Fully functional non-demo
versions (woo hoo!) are temporarily unavailable because so many
downloads hit that our ISP resitricted our bandwidth. We are working to
find a new home:
 
2) I have no idea what this http://www.sharemation.com place is that
you list, though I'd be supprised if it were there with Joe's
permission. Both the OS/2 and Windows versions of Embellish are
available at http://www.dadaware.com free of charge, with no
restriction of use, & no silly sign up system.
Click to expand...
Please download & test it out for yourselves - a thousand times
Click to expand...

<snip>

Download links did not work for me...bummer!

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El Gee

Did you hear the one about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac?
He would stay up late every night and wonder if there was a dog.

Remove yourhat to reply ... but it may take a while.
Best to go to www.mistergeek.com and reply from there.
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:11:20 +1000

Daeron> 2) I have no idea what this http://www.sharemation.com place
Daeron> is that you list, though I'd be supprised if it were there
Daeron> with Joe's permission. Both the OS/2 and Windows versions of
Daeron> Embellish are available at http://www.dadaware.com free of
Daeron> charge, with no restriction of use, & no silly sign up system.

Actually, no, it's not ... not currently, anyway. An attempt to
download it returns "file not found" errors for the Windows version.
:-\
 
burnr said:
The d/l links are not working. From the site..Fully functional non-demo
versions (woo hoo!) are temporarily unavailable because so many
downloads hit that our ISP resitricted our bandwidth. We are working to
find a new home:
Click to expand...
If Chuck & El Gee need a download I could put copies on a web site for a
while -- provided it's o.k. with Joe
:)
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 05:06:21 +1000

Daeron> If Chuck & El Gee need a download I could put copies on a
Daeron> web site for a while -- provided it's o.k. with Joe

Managed to grab a copy ... thanks.
 
If Chuck & El Gee need a download I could put copies on a web site
for a
while -- provided it's o.k. with Joe
:)
Click to expand...

Same here. I googled and found it. I am playing with the proggie at
work. Not too bad so far...

--
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
El Gee

Did you hear the one about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac?
He would stay up late every night and wonder if there was a dog.


Remove yourhat to reply ... but it may take a while.
Best to go to www.mistergeek.com and reply from there.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
CAUTION: OT Rant best ignored by some.

Daeron said:
Due to several amazing "accidents" at various magazines, Embellish
advertisements were moved away from graphics articles (where PaintShopPro
adverts would magically appear instead),
Click to expand...
Thanks for the tip. I'll certainly try "Embellish" because I have
found no other free bitmap editing application that is worth its space
on the hard drive. The balance of your post, though, reads very much
like sour grapes or ignorance to me. What you describe, presumably as
unfair treatment, is called, "paying for position"; your friend needed
to get off of his wallet and pay the rate. That's free-market capitalism
in action; absolutely no one has a "right" to success, superiority
aside. It's all about the stature of the stack of money.
(why did these accidents keep happening? Because Dadaware was independant &
Embellish was up against PaintShopPro which was an over price piece of crap
being pushed by the largest software house, and therefore largest
advertising customer of the magazine.)
Click to expand...
You seem to be implying that something is inherently wrong with the
practice. Your answer is in my first paragraph: Your programmer friend
must have been unwilling or unable to pay the freight. It's that simple.
Think, "working capital". Should have spent more time at the library or
actually talked to someone in the publishing business and possibly have
avoided pissing into the wind. Product reviews have been directly linked
to magazine adverts since forever; in fact, they most often are used
deliberately to generate advertising. Why do you think nobody actually
believes them? If that's a problem for you folks, then my best
suggestion is that ya'll stop whining, put your pennies together and
start a magarag of your own. Sheesh!
I am grateful that your friend decided to distribute his app as
freeware; perhaps we all may benefit from it. FWIW, a 16-bit and a later
32-bit Mac-to-Windows port of Deneba Software's "Canvas" put PSP, along
with everthing else except "PhotoShop", to shame in its day, but it died
on the vine, too, primarily from a lack of promotion. Oh, it was
object-oriented too; each object can be on its own damned layer, if
desired. I continue to use it because in many respects it still makes
the others look amateur-hour. Takes money, Honey.
Sorry, but none of the features mentioned in your third point is
new or unique to "Embellish". I do concede that the current crop of
freeware Windows bitmapped graphics apps is pure shit. The programs all
seem to be written by folks who never even talked to a graphics artist
but just thought it would be "kewl"... Most that I've seen don't even
support CMYK color model so a user can just forget about actual
production work. RGB is for teevee, video games, and "gee whiz". I agree
that "Gimp" is among the bloated worst because it suffers from the
committee-programming philosophy of most of the other "cross-platform"
crap that I've seen nowadays: Everything is half-assed, unfinished,
butt-ugly, way-y-y big and never seems to work. It seems to be by, for,
and about a small cadre who confuse twiddling with one's desktop or
operating system, as well as continually re-starting, with actually
doing productive work. Everybody else not in that cadre of dweebs and
who's serious about graphics pays the money and uses PhotoShop. There's
no in-between; it's amateur-hour or Photoshop. Hell, I just figure that
whoever named "Gimp" has a sick sense of humor: In English, it does
mean, "cripple", you know :-).
If your friend wants to promote and improve his application, the
last thing he wants to do is go Open Source. Even if he keeps it free,
he must retain copyright so that he can control its future development
and distribution. Open Source truly _is_ programming-by-committee,
except that it's an aimless committee of amateurs trying to elicit
"attaboy's" from each other and the hell with the end user; have you
actually seen or tried to _use_ that "Open Office" monstrosity? Those
folks'll never in the world achieve their stated goal of displacing
Mickey$oft (or of displacing any other commercial enterprise, for that
matter) because m$ and others actually have people _in charge_ who can
set goals and enforce the decisions necessary to meet them, even if all
of the real work is done by high school kids and interns. Did I mention,
that's called "free-market capitalism" and that absolutely no one has a
"right" to success?
Sorry about the OT rant but "pity-me" whiners make me want to
puke...
 
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