Email rules are not being used

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Jayme Jeffman Filho

After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ), KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails and stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
 
Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ), KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails and stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
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It is very doubtful that the update would affect one rule, if any?

Maybe the criteria of the mail in question changed, new email address etc?

Such a rule should be at the top of the list, not at the bottom.
 
No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.
 
I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains [email-list] move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown people. It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho
 
I have exchanged the position of the 19th rule. It works on every position
but not in the last. Exactly the one it should be : after all other rules has
been applied.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains [email-list] move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown people. It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Gary VanderMolen (MVP) said:
No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen



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#19 /should/ be first on the list.

In general:

Have all rules that Delete it from server or Do not download first.

Rules that divert mail to folders next.

All others last.

Make sure that every rule also has Stop processing more rules checked,
unless that option is grayed out.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/Outlook_Express/Creating_Rules_in_Outlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlook express notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have exchanged the position of the 19th rule. It works on every
position
but not in the last. Exactly the one it should be : after all other
rules has
been applied.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder
and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains [email-list]
move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do
not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper
folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown people.
It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Gary VanderMolen (MVP) said:
No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Jayme Jeffman Filho" <Jayme Jeffman (e-mail address removed)>
wrote in message
After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ),
KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails and
stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last
update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Like Bruce says, the 'don't download' rule apparently needs to be first.
Since that will mess up the logic of your exclusion criteria, you will have
to figure out another way to do a similar thing.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have exchanged the position of the 19th rule. It works on every position
but not in the last. Exactly the one it should be : after all other rules has
been applied.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains [email-list] move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown people. It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Gary VanderMolen (MVP) said:
No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ), KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails and stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
"Jayme Jeffman Filho" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder
and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains
[email-list] move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do
not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper
folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found
to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown
people. It
has worked until last december at least.
Click to expand...

Maybe all of the messages that you didn't download are cluttering up the
place?
 
Imagine putting a rule not to download "all messages" in the first position !
I will not receive any message any more ! At least I am understanding the
rules schema this way.

Thank you any way.

Jayme.

Bruce Hagen said:
#19 /should/ be first on the list.

In general:

Have all rules that Delete it from server or Do not download first.

Rules that divert mail to folders next.

All others last.

Make sure that every rule also has Stop processing more rules checked,
unless that option is grayed out.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/Outlook_Express/Creating_Rules_in_Outlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlook express notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have exchanged the position of the 19th rule. It works on every
position
but not in the last. Exactly the one it should be : after all other
rules has
been applied.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder
and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains [email-list]
move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do
not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper
folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown people.
It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

:

No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Jayme Jeffman Filho" <Jayme Jeffman (e-mail address removed)>
wrote in message
After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ),
KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails and
stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last
update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

.
Click to expand...
 
The point is: this schema of rules has been worked for me since I am using
Outlook Express, and has worked on Windows Mail too. Something has changed
along some of the latest Windows Vista updates.

Thank you any way. I will let the #19 rule on the first position and check
if some of the other rules are executed. If so the problem will be solved.

Jayme.

Gary VanderMolen (MVP) said:
Like Bruce says, the 'don't download' rule apparently needs to be first.
Since that will mess up the logic of your exclusion criteria, you will have
to figure out another way to do a similar thing.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have exchanged the position of the 19th rule. It works on every position
but not in the last. Exactly the one it should be : after all other rules has
been applied.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains [email-list] move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown people. It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

:

No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ), KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails and stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
.
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Click to expand...
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Click to expand...
 
No you wouldn't. But if I may ask, what were you hoping to accomplish with
that rule anyway regardless of its position?
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
Imagine putting a rule not to download "all messages" in the first
position !
I will not receive any message any more ! At least I am understanding
the
rules schema this way.

Thank you any way.

Jayme.

Bruce Hagen said:
#19 /should/ be first on the list.

In general:

Have all rules that Delete it from server or Do not download first.

Rules that divert mail to folders next.

All others last.

Make sure that every rule also has Stop processing more rules checked,
unless that option is grayed out.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/Outlook_Express/Creating_Rules_in_Outlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlook express notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Jayme Jeffman Filho" <[email protected]>
wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
I have exchanged the position of the 19th rule. It works on every
position
but not in the last. Exactly the one it should be : after all other
rules has
been applied.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

:

I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash
folder
and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains
[email-list]
move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do
not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper
folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found
to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown
people.
It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

:

No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Jayme Jeffman Filho" <Jayme Jeffman
(e-mail address removed)>
wrote in message
After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ),
KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails
and
stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last
update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
.
Click to expand...

.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I have just put the #19 rule on the second position. All the rules after it
were ignered, because the rules of the type "if from contains <email> move to
<folder>" are executed after the message has been downloaded. As the rule
"not download" is executed first, no one else is executed after that.

So if this question will not be considered in the next set of Windows Mail
updates my rules schema will loose its main function wich is block unwanted
and advertising messages. I will find a way of turning arround this problem.

Thanks for you all for answering my messages.

Have a nice weekend.

Jayme

Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
The point is: this schema of rules has been worked for me since I am using
Outlook Express, and has worked on Windows Mail too. Something has changed
along some of the latest Windows Vista updates.

Thank you any way. I will let the #19 rule on the first position and check
if some of the other rules are executed. If so the problem will be solved.

Jayme.

Gary VanderMolen (MVP) said:
Like Bruce says, the 'don't download' rule apparently needs to be first.
Since that will mess up the logic of your exclusion criteria, you will have
to figure out another way to do a similar thing.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have exchanged the position of the 19th rule. It works on every position
but not in the last. Exactly the one it should be : after all other rules has
been applied.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

:

I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains [email-list] move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown people. It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

:

No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ), KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails and stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
.
Click to expand...
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Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
You need to "filter in" your mail.

Start with the Address Book only rule and as you get messages you want
from people not in your Address Book, (E-mail from businesses, bills, your
ISP, etc.), you can add them to the rule.

Tools | Message Rules | Mail | New.

Box 1 - Where the From line contains people {check it}

Box 2 - Check: Delete it & Stop processing more rules if you want messages
not in the Address Book to go to Deleted Items, or you can create a Junk
folder and direct them there.

You can choose Delete it from server, but be careful as you will never
have any messages downloaded to any folder if you choose this option.

Box 3 - Click on the blue words Contains People

Click on the first address to highlight it. Scroll down to the end and
hold down the Shift key while you click on the last address. This will
highlight them all. Right click on them and click on From in the menu that
appears.

Now click Options and Choose: Message *does not contain* the people below
in the top Options box, and choose: Message matches any one of the people
below in the bottom Options box.

OK your way out of the new rule.

Now, only addresses you entered will be downloaded to your Inbox. You will
not see any other e-mail.

Don't forget, if you add someone to your Address Book, you will have to
add them to the rule. It will not be added automatically.

Be sure to see these links for more options.

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have just put the #19 rule on the second position. All the rules after
it
were ignered, because the rules of the type "if from contains <email>
move to
<folder>" are executed after the message has been downloaded. As the
rule
"not download" is executed first, no one else is executed after that.

So if this question will not be considered in the next set of Windows
Mail
updates my rules schema will loose its main function wich is block
unwanted
and advertising messages. I will find a way of turning arround this
problem.

Thanks for you all for answering my messages.

Have a nice weekend.

Jayme

Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
The point is: this schema of rules has been worked for me since I am
using
Outlook Express, and has worked on Windows Mail too. Something has
changed
along some of the latest Windows Vista updates.

Thank you any way. I will let the #19 rule on the first position and
check
if some of the other rules are executed. If so the problem will be
solved.

Jayme.

Gary VanderMolen (MVP) said:
Like Bruce says, the 'don't download' rule apparently needs to be
first.
Since that will mess up the logic of your exclusion criteria, you
will have
to figure out another way to do a similar thing.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Jayme Jeffman Filho" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
I have exchanged the position of the 19th rule. It works on every
position
but not in the last. Exactly the one it should be : after all other
rules has
been applied.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

:

I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash
folder and do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains
[email-list] move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and
do not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper
folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I
found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown
people. It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

:

No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Jayme Jeffman Filho" <Jayme Jeffman
(e-mail address removed)> wrote in message
After the last Windows Updates ( Windows Vista Business 32 ),
KB905866, my
email rules are not being applied.
I have a rule which tells Windows Mail not to get some emails
and stop to
process more rules, it is the last one in the rules list.

I would like to know if it is any bug introduced in the last
update.
My rules used to work until last Monday ( Jan, 11 2010 )

Thanks a lot.
.

.
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Why not just remove the last rule, "For all messages . . . .", and let them
download. Since everything else got put where you want it, then what's left
in the Inbox would presumably be junk. You can highlight all of it and
delete it.



Jayme Jeffman Filho said:
I have 19 named rules:
The first one is : If from contains [email-list] move to trash folder and
do
not process more rules;
The second to 18th are of the same type : If from contains [email-list]
move
to [folder] and do not process more rules;
The last one is: For all messages do not download from server and do not
process more rules.

This structure is responsible for placing messages in their proper folder.
This is working fine.
Only the last rule is not working any more. That was the way I found to
avoid receiving unwanted messages .

I would like to have a way of not receive messages from unknown people. It
has worked until last december at least.

Thank you for answering.

Jayme Jeffman Filho

Gary VanderMolen (MVP) said:
No one else has reported a recent problem with rules.
If you want, post your rule here so we can see if it has a
potential problem.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Jayme Jeffman Filho" <Jayme Jeffman (e-mail address removed)>
wrote in message

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I'd reather not to spend time with messages I do not want to get them in my
Windows Mail folders.

I have placed the "Not Download" rule just before the last rule, which is a
fake
one that moves no message to the trash folder. This option let the "Not
Donload" rule working properly.

Although I think Microsoft should restore the way that rule use to work
before I am satisfied with my solution. For me it's solved.

Thanks for you all.
 
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail):
the action "delete it from server" does not work for me anymore for last few
weeks(it worked for me before that). I tested it with the action "mark as
being watched or ignored" and it worked, but not with "delete it from
server". I use windows vista home basic set to automatic updates-Rene
 
You may need to move the rule. The following applies to WinMail as well as
OE.

In general:

Have all rules that Delete it from server first.

Rules that divert mail to folders next.

All others last.

Make sure that every rule also has Stop processing more rules checked,
unless that option is grayed out.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/Outlook_Express/Creating_Rules_in_Outlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlook express notes.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
 
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