Either USB or Router

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I have had a progressively worsening problem which I have tried to
rectify by researching the issues. A pattern has emerged through my
attempts at rectification: either I can get my wireless router to work
as it should, or I can get my USB devices to work as they should --
but never both at the same time. For a briefly period, immediately
after a chkdk/F, they were both working, except that the panel
associated with the Windows toolbar/ wireless router icon kept
flashing on and off, and the panel was blank; it could only have been
a malfunction. When I got it to stop flashing through cntrl+Alt+del,
my mouse immediately stopped working; and doubtless all my other USB
devices are also unrecognizable (such is the pattern).
CHKDSK revealed that there was something wrong with the MTF system,
but I imagined that this would have been rectified by a CHKDSK/F. Also
the online advice had been that the INFCACHE.1 file is probably
corrupted; I changed the name (and, at another time, deleted it then
rebooted) with only limited success.
What say you?
With thanks in advance.
 
You should really run chkdsk /f /r until it returns no errors and is clean,
sometimes it takes two or three times.
Then after that I would run a sfc /scannow in a command prompt as
administrator.

"J.Jack.J." wrote in message

I have had a progressively worsening problem which I have tried to
rectify by researching the issues. A pattern has emerged through my
attempts at rectification: either I can get my wireless router to work
as it should, or I can get my USB devices to work as they should --
but never both at the same time. For a briefly period, immediately
after a chkdk/F, they were both working, except that the panel
associated with the Windows toolbar/ wireless router icon kept
flashing on and off, and the panel was blank; it could only have been
a malfunction. When I got it to stop flashing through cntrl+Alt+del,
my mouse immediately stopped working; and doubtless all my other USB
devices are also unrecognizable (such is the pattern).
CHKDSK revealed that there was something wrong with the MTF system,
but I imagined that this would have been rectified by a CHKDSK/F. Also
the online advice had been that the INFCACHE.1 file is probably
corrupted; I changed the name (and, at another time, deleted it then
rebooted) with only limited success.
What say you?
With thanks in advance.
 
Update your router drivers. Download is installed by resetting the router
(usually by a pinhole in the back). Your USB adapter will have to be recoded
(WEP or WPA) and you're set to go.
 
Update your router drivers. Download is installed by resetting the router
(usually by a pinhole in the back). Your USB adapter will have to be recoded
(WEP or WPA) and you're set to go.

The router is new (so I take it the drivers are up to date); I got it
less than a week ago *because* of the problems I was having, which I
thought were due to my last router being faulty. Obviously they
weren't.
The router has been OK these last couple of days -- it's the USB that
hasn't worked.

With thanks.
 
Drivers supplied with hardware are often quite old.

--
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--
Update your router drivers. Download is installed by resetting the router
(usually by a pinhole in the back). Your USB adapter will have to be
recoded
(WEP or WPA) and you're set to go.

The router is new (so I take it the drivers are up to date); I got it
less than a week ago *because* of the problems I was having, which I
thought were due to my last router being faulty. Obviously they
weren't.
The router has been OK these last couple of days -- it's the USB that
hasn't worked.

With thanks.
 
J.Jack.J. said:
The router is new (so I take it the drivers are up to date); I got
it less than a week ago *because* of the problems I was having,
which I thought were due to my last router being faulty. Obviously
they weren't.
The router has been OK these last couple of days -- it's the USB
that hasn't worked.

I'm unsure the terminology being used is correct here. Usually a router has
no drivers a computer would need. Firmware - sure; drivers - no.

Just because you just bought the router new does not mean it is updated. I
would verify that whatever this router is - it has the latest firmware
installed on it. New to you does not mean it didn't sit in some box for a
year or more and being a technological piece of equipment - it is plausible
(although doubtful) many updates could come out per day for it.

What I would suggest is that you do the following:

- Update your router's firmware to its latest version.

- Backup your computer completely - using whatever method you have been (iuf
none - better get one now.)

- Whatever computer you have - update the hardware device drivers from the
respective hardware manufacturers in this order:
- motherboard chipset
- network device (wired)
- network device (wireless) - including any software (this is particularly
important if it is an Intel Wireless Device.)

- Use WPA or better yet WPA2 as your wireless security.

Your wireless should be working fine and perhaps your USB is even working
after the motherboard chipset driver update - however - your posting
indicates to me there is a distintct possibility your Windows installation
is corrupt and/or the drive is dying. My advice would be to completely
backup your system again - with imaging software or something that would
allow for a complete bare-metal restore if necessary - and download/utilize
the hard disk drive manufacturer's diagnostic utilities to test your hard
disk drive completely and perhaps even zero-write it and restore from the
bare-metal backup you made. If that does not fix most of your problems -
then the installation of WIndows could be corrupt and a zero-write plus a
clean step-by-stepy installation of Windows and everything else will be
necessary (given the diagnostics on the hard disk drive come back clean.)
 
Shenan,

Many thanks. Comments embedded.
Just because you just bought the router new does not mean it is updated.  I
would verify that whatever this router is - it has the latest firmware
installed on it.  New to you does not mean it didn't sit in some box for a
year or more and being a technological piece of equipment - it is plausible
(although doubtful) many updates could come out per day for it.

What I would suggest is that you do the following:

- Update your router's firmware to its latest version.


It's really weird -- my router is a d-link DIR615 and the D-Link site
asks which version out of B2 and D1 it is. But mine appears to be
neither: it says it's Ver. D4.
The only download for this version that I can find by Google is a fix
for no sound, which would for me be fixing something that ain't broke.

- Backup your computer completely - using whatever method you have been (iuf
none - better get one now.)

I have backed up all my important data. Is that what you meant? Does
Vista let me make a System Restore point (assuming this is advisable)?
I was told that a recovery disk will do nothing more than what is done
by the inbuilt method of restoring the factory defaults, BTW.
(BTW I keep reading about people 'flashing the firmware', whatever
that means.)
- Whatever computer you have - update the hardware device drivers from the
respective hardware manufacturers in this order:
  - motherboard chipset
  - network device (wired)
  - network device (wireless) - including any software (this is particularly
important if it is an Intel Wireless Device.)

This is what seems to be on offer:
http://support.thetechguys.com/layout.aspx?ID={ce1edcb1-b3b7-4a59-98e9-367deeaf807c}&CatID={c3d20537-a610-442e-860d-14c11a856263}
I'm afraid I am struggling to match them with your instructions.
- Use WPA or better yet WPA2 as your wireless security.

Your wireless should be working fine and perhaps your USB is even working
after the motherboard chipset driver update - however - your posting
indicates to me there is a distintct possibility your Windows installation
is corrupt and/or the drive is dying.

I can tell you that I have had a crash involving a blue screen (I
think it was a 'dump' type of thing) which I imagine was either
symptomatic of some hardware problem -- HDD, I suppose -- or was a
cause of the problems in the MTF.
Several times I have had problems with my computer not completing the
boot sequence and instead switching itself off, which have been
resolved by taking the battery out and turning the power off for a
while. I wonder if it is the warm weather combined with something like
a faulty fan? Certainly the area near the fan has been getting fairly
hot (hotter than it should be?-- I don't know).

 My advice would be to completely
backup your system again - with imaging software or something

Imaging software? Is that the software that makes a .img file? (If so,
is it easy to return the data to its original format? I don't know how
to.) I think that is installed as standard on Vista, isn't it? The
only think is, I wouldn't know how to back up anything other than data
that I myself have put on my computer.


that would
allow for a complete bare-metal restore if necessary - and download/utilize
the hard disk drive manufacturer's diagnostic utilities to test your hard
disk drive completely and perhaps even zero-write it and restore from the
bare-metal backup you made.

Doesn't zero-wipe mean a complete disk wipe?

 If that does not fix most of your problems -
then the installation of WIndows could be corrupt and a zero-write plus a
clean step-by-stepy installation of Windows and everything else will be
necessary (given the diagnostics on the hard disk drive come back clean.)

The only info I can find on my HDD is that it's a
WDC WD 1600bevs-22rsto
-- so that's Western Digital?
Can you advise me as to how to go about getting the right disk
diagnostic software? Google doesn't seem to be helping very much.

With thanks again.
 
One other matter: I wonder whether I am best advised simply leaving
things as they are, and not rocking the boat (which has proved
disastrous for me with previous computers). The router has been doing
OK for a while, with the exception of a very brief period. I can (for
some reason) now get my memory stick to show in My Computer, even if
it does have a habit of disappearing from there. And if I change my
mouse (a PC Line Laser), the mouse is recognised and works. Maybe my
mouse is faulty?
With thanks.
 
J.Jack.J. said:
It's really weird -- my router is a d-link DIR615 and the D-Link
site asks which version out of B2 and D1 it is. But mine appears
to be neither: it says it's Ver. D4. The only download for this
version that I can find by Google is a fix for no sound, which
would for me be fixing something that ain't broke.

I have backed up all my important data. Is that what you meant? Does
Vista let me make a System Restore point (assuming this is
advisable)?

I was told that a recovery disk will do nothing more than what is
done by the inbuilt method of restoring the factory defaults, BTW.
(BTW I keep reading about people 'flashing the firmware', whatever
that means.)

This is what seems to be on offer:
http://support.thetechguys.com/layout.aspx?ID={ce1edcb1-b3b7-4a59-98e9-367deeaf807c}&CatID={c3d20537-a610-442e-860d-14c11a856263}
I'm afraid I am struggling to match them with your instructions.

I can tell you that I have had a crash involving a blue screen (I
think it was a 'dump' type of thing) which I imagine was either
symptomatic of some hardware problem -- HDD, I suppose -- or was a
cause of the problems in the MTF.

Several times I have had problems with my computer not completing
the boot sequence and instead switching itself off, which have been
resolved by taking the battery out and turning the power off for a
while. I wonder if it is the warm weather combined with something
like a faulty fan? Certainly the area near the fan has been getting
fairly hot (hotter than it should be?-- I don't know).

Imaging software? Is that the software that makes a .img file? (If
so, is it easy to return the data to its original format? I don't know
how to.) I think that is installed as standard on Vista, isn't it? The
only think is, I wouldn't know how to back up anything other than
data that I myself have put on my computer.

Doesn't zero-wipe mean a complete disk wipe?

The only info I can find on my HDD is that it's a
WDC WD 1600bevs-22rsto
-- so that's Western Digital?
Can you advise me as to how to go about getting the right disk
diagnostic software? Google doesn't seem to be helping very much.

With thanks again.

J.Jack.J. said:
One other matter: I wonder whether I am best advised simply leaving
things as they are, and not rocking the boat (which has proved
disastrous for me with previous computers). The router has been
doing OK for a while, with the exception of a very brief period. I
can (for some reason) now get my memory stick to show in My
Computer, even if it does have a habit of disappearing from there.
And if I change my mouse (a PC Line Laser), the mouse is recognised
and works. Maybe my mouse is faulty?
With thanks.

Are *you* better off not messing too much with it - maybe. You won't learn
anything and things won't get better (might deteriorate further even) - but
if you don't understand it and cannot seem to grasp it - maybe you'd be
better off getting help from someone you trust, close by who does grasp it.

Your router and computer are two separate things, however. Your computer
may connect to your router via a wire or via a wireless signal - but they do
not share anything more than that. Your computer should not need a
driver/software _specific to the router_ to connect. The computer will need
a driver for one or both the wired/wireless device in it that will be used
to then communicate with the router. You may need to configure the router
and you may need to configure the software for your wireless connectivity to
connect to said router - but these are still two separate objects working
together. Like your TV and the box/outlet it plugs into to get channels to
show up (or the antenna - if still old-school like that.)


Answering some of the questions you asked... For informational purposes -
helping you understand more:

That does not sound like your router (fix for sound). Always go to the
*manufacturer's web page* for drivers, firmware, etc. Don't just "Google".
;-) In the case where you know where to go for things, Googling is like
walking outside and screaming about it until someone throws an answer your
way just to shut you up... It might get you to the right place - but since
you should already know the right place to go - it is a waste of time.

Look on the bottom of your D-Link router:
http://www.dlink.com/support/faq/default.aspx?question=hardware+revision

The DIR-615 seems to have four supported revisions:
- DIR-615
- DIR-615 RevB
- DIR-615 RevC
- DIR-615 RevE

I don't know which you have. What does the bottom of your router say
specifically?

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=565

Determining which Revision of the 615 you have is important.

Backing up your important data is important. Vista's built-in backup is
better than ntohing, not too much different than backing up by drag-n-drop
in some ways - but can include the system state.

If all you have is a recovery disk - that sucks - but does point to you
being able to tell everyone what make/model your computer is - as it is
obviously a third-tier OEM (to me anywy) that would be the type to include
such a crappy way to restore the system instead of actual installation
media. "Flashing firmware" and "updating the BIOS" are terms meaning
essentially updating the hardware's software... Your router - for example -
I was suggesting you getting the latest firmware for it. You would be
writing a new version of the software it uses to do *everything*. Your
computer motherboard (the board everything else plugs into) has a BIOS that
you could flash/write to as well - but we aren't going there just yet.

Again - unless "thetechguys" built your computer - this is *not* the
manufacturer's web page for your computer. What is the Make/Model of the
computer? Most likely the make is: Dell, HP, Packard Bell, IBM/Lenovo,
Gateway or something else? The model is usual obviously printed on the
front of the computer or top or somewhere similar - and definitely came in
any documentation/receipts you got with it. You need this to truly find the
proper and supported drivers for your system.

Blue screens can happen because of software or hardware or a mixture.
Without the specifics of the bluescreen - nothing is gained by knowing you
have had them other than confirming something is not quote right with this
machine.

Something like the Seagate Replica would be perfect for you. It can do the
complete backup for you without you having to know much of anything and the
steps to restore (even bare-metal) is quite simplistic.

"zero-write" (not wipe) is writing a zero to every part of the disk - making
sure *nothing* is left from the old system and in a way testing that every
part of the disk is usable. Gets rid of rootkits and such quite readily.
But yes - in simplistic terms - it is a complete (total) disk wipe.

The diagnostic utility for Western Digital drives can be found by visiting
the manufacturer's web page (Western Digital - notice a pattern of my going
to the source?) and their support/downloads section. From what you have
given - it is a SATA, laptop size (2.5"), "Scorpio Blue" drive.

http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=702&lang=en
You would want the "Data Lifeguard Diagnostic" download. Which one depends
on your backup state and confidence. Given your responses so far - I would
recommend the "For Windows" version for now - more later if necessary - but
you should not go doing the zero-write on anything at this time - you are
not ready for that.

Western Digital will even give you a copy of "Acronis True Image":
http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119&wdc_lang=en
(Since you asked about what imaging is, note the "Drive Image Backup"
description.)

End of that part...


So - that's some basics in answering your questions - let's go even more
basic instead of worrying too much with the above.

- What make of computer or laptop do you have? Dell? HP? Gateway?
Lenovo? Other?


- What is the model of the computer? It was likely sold to you as a "Dell
Inspiron ___" or "Lenovo ThinkPad ___", etc and so on... What is that?


- What specific Operating System do you have - all the blanks need to be
filled in:
Windows Vista _____ Edition with Service Pack _, __-bit

Start button --> RUN --> type in:
(No "RUN", press the WindowsKey+R at the same time.)
winver
--> Click OK.

That will give you (picture at top) the full name of the operating system.
That will give you (in the text) the Service Pack you have installed.

How to determine whether a computer is running a 32-bit version or 64-bit
version of the Windows operating system
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827218

Come back with that basic information.
 
Shenan,
Many thanks indeed. Some comments embedded.
Are *you* better off not messing too much with it - maybe.  You won't learn
anything and things won't get better (might deteriorate further even) - but
if you don't understand it and cannot seem to grasp it - maybe you'd be
better off getting help from someone you trust, close by who does grasp it.

Your router and computer are two separate things, however.  Your computer
may connect to your router via a wire or via a wireless signal - but theydo
not share anything more than that.  Your computer should not need a
driver/software _specific to the router_ to connect.  The computer will need
a driver for one or both the wired/wireless device in it that will be used
to then communicate with the router.  You may need to configure the router
and you may need to configure the software for your wireless connectivityto
connect to said router - but these are still two separate objects working
together.  Like your TV and the box/outlet it plugs into to get channels to
show up (or the antenna - if still old-school like that.)

Answering some of the questions you asked...  For informational purposes -
helping you understand more:

That does not sound like your router (fix for sound).  Always go to the
*manufacturer's web page* for drivers, firmware, etc.  

I did but what I found was that the manufacturer, PC World, seems to
leave all the support to the Tech Guys. Indeed, every time you turn
this type of laptop on, there is a panel that displays 'the Tech
Guys'.

Don't just "Google".
;-)  In the case where you know where to go for things, Googling is like
walking outside and screaming about it until someone throws an answer your
way just to shut you up...  It might get you to the right place - but since
you should already know the right place to go - it is a waste of time.

Look on the bottom of your D-Link router:http://www.dlink.com/support/faq/default.aspx?question=hardware+revision

The DIR-615 seems to have four supported revisions:
 - DIR-615
 - DIR-615 RevB
 - DIR-615 RevC
 - DIR-615 RevE
I don't know which you have.  What does the bottom of your router say
specifically?

It says nothing other than DIR-615.
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=565

Determining which Revision of the 615 you have is important.

Backing up your important data is important.  Vista's built-in backup is
better than ntohing, not too much different than backing up by drag-n-drop
in some ways - but can include the system state.

If all you have is a recovery disk - that sucks -

I don't have one as I was told I might as well just use the built-in
method of key-stroking.

but does point to you
being able to tell everyone what make/model your computer is - as it is
obviously a third-tier OEM (to me anywy) that would be the type to include
such a crappy way to restore the system instead of actual installation
media.  "Flashing firmware" and "updating the BIOS" are terms meaning
essentially updating the hardware's software...  Your router - for example -
I was suggesting you getting the latest firmware for it.  You would be
writing a new version of the software it uses to do *everything*.  Your
computer motherboard (the board everything else plugs into) has a BIOS that
you could flash/write to as well - but we aren't going there just yet.

Again - unless "thetechguys" built your computer - this is *not* the
manufacturer's web page for your computer.  What is the Make/Model of the
computer?  Most likely the make is: Dell, HP, Packard Bell, IBM/Lenovo,
Gateway or something else?

PC Wolrd own brand: Advent Turion 9515.

 The model is usual obviously printed on the
front of the computer or top or somewhere similar - and definitely came in
any documentation/receipts you got with it.  You need this to truly find the
proper and supported drivers for your system.

Blue screens can happen because of software or hardware or a mixture.
Without the specifics of the bluescreen - nothing is gained by knowing you
have had them other than confirming something is not quote right with this
machine.

Something like the Seagate Replica would be perfect for you.  It cando the
complete backup for you without you having to know much of anything and the
steps to restore (even bare-metal) is quite simplistic.

Will look out for that. Presumably you need to do the back up when the
file system is obviously healthy. But then I would have to do a
separate backup to save all the data I had added since then -- or is
the utility something that backs up everything automatically?
"zero-write" (not wipe) is writing a zero to every part of the disk - making
sure *nothing* is left from the old system and in a way testing that every
part of the disk is usable.  Gets rid of rootkits and such quite readily.

I had never heard of rootkits before. I read the Wiki page --
worrying. Presumably there is a built-in facility in Vista to do this?
Is it what is done in a full format when reinstalling XP (I have
another system, an XP, that I am currently doing this to)?
But yes - in simplistic terms - it is a complete (total) disk wipe.

The diagnostic utility for Western Digital drives can be found by visiting
the manufacturer's web page (Western Digital - notice a pattern of my going
to the source?) and their support/downloads section.  From what you have
given - it is a SATA, laptop size (2.5"), "Scorpio Blue" drive.

http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=702〈=en
You would want the "Data Lifeguard Diagnostic" download.  Which one depends
on your backup state and confidence.  Given your responses so far - I would
recommend the "For Windows" version for now - more later if necessary - but
you should not go doing the zero-write on anything at this time - you are
not ready for that.

Western Digital will even give you a copy of "Acronis True Image":http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119&wdc_lang=en
(Since you asked about what imaging is, note the "Drive Image Backup"
description.)

End of that part...

So - that's some basics in answering your questions - let's go even more
basic instead of worrying too much with the above.
- What specific Operating System do you have - all the blanks need to be
filled in:
   Windows Vista _____ Edition with Service Pack _, __-bit

Vista 6.0.6; I couldn't establish the SP, but can I not assume it is
automatically updated, being online?
32-bit system.

With many thanks indeed.
 
J.Jack.J. said:
Vista 6.0.6; I couldn't establish the SP, but can I not assume it is
automatically updated, being online?
32-bit system.

I gave you exactly what you needed to get the Service Pack information. ;-)

Start button --> RUN --> type in:
(No "RUN", press the WindowsKey+R at the same time.)
winver
--> Click OK.

That will give you (picture at top) the full name of the operating system.
That will give you (in the text starting with the word "Version") the
Service Pack you have installed.

How to determine whether a computer is running a 32-bit version or 64-bit
version of the Windows operating system
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827218
 
I gave you exactly what you needed to get the Service Pack information. ;-)

Start button --> RUN --> type in:
(No "RUN", press the WindowsKey+R at the same time.)
  winver
--> Click OK.

That will give you (picture at top) the full name of the operating system..
That will give you (in the text starting with the word "Version") the
Service Pack you have installed.

How to determine whether a computer is running a 32-bit version or 64-bit
version of the Windows operating systemhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/827218

Version 6.0 (Build 6000)
32-bit system.
 
J.Jack.J. said:
Version 6.0 (Build 6000)
32-bit system.

The version line - entire thing - only says that?

If so - that machine is fairly behind in updates (no service packs installed
at all..)
 
Shenan,
   Many thanks indeed. Some comments embedded.











I did but what I found was that the manufacturer, PC World, seems to
leave all the support to the Tech Guys. Indeed, every time you turn
this type of laptop on, there is a panel that displays 'the Tech
Guys'.

Don't just "Google".




It says nothing other thanDIR-615.







I don't have one as I was told I might as well just use the built-in
method of key-stroking.

but does point to you



PC Wolrd own brand: Advent Turion 9515.

 The model is usual obviously printed on the




Will look out for that. Presumably you need to do the back up when the
file system is obviously healthy. But then I would have to do a
separate backup to save all the data I had added since then -- or is
the utility something that backs up everything automatically?


I had never heard of rootkits before. I read the Wiki page --
worrying. Presumably there is a built-in facility in Vista to do this?
Is it what is done in a full format when reinstalling XP (I have
another system, an XP, that I am currently doing this to)?











Vista 6.0.6; I couldn't establish the SP, but can I not assume it is
automatically updated, being online?
32-bit system.

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The version line - entire thing - only says that?
Yep.

If so - that machine is fairly behind in updates (no service packs installed
at all..)

I thought they got downloaded and installed every time it goes through
a lengthy shutdown in which it says 'Installing Updates' or suchlike.
I've had a few of those.
 
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J.Jack.J. said:
Yep.

I thought they got downloaded and installed every time it goes
through a lengthy shutdown in which it says 'Installing Updates' or
suchlike. I've had a few of those.

Obviously they did not and that means you are running Windows Vista 32-bit
with *no* service packs. This is something you should strive to correct.
It will - more than likely - improve your experience by many times over.

Download the stand-alone installer for Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=b0c7136d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674
(Save it to your computer where you can later find it.)

Download the stand-alone installer for Windows Vista Service Pack 2:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=a4dd31d5-f907-4406-9012-a5c3199ea2b3
(Save it to your computer where you can later find it.)

Reboot and logon as an administrative user.

Visit this web page:

How do I reset Windows Update components?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

.... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked, select "RUN",
both times. Check the "I agree" box and click on "Next". Check the box
for "Run aggressive options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let
it finish up and follow the prompts until it is done. Close/exit.

Reboot and logon as an administrative user.

Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following
(freeware version):

SuperAntiSpyware
http://www.superantispyware.com/

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following
(freeware version):

MalwareBytes
http://www.malwarebytes.com/

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download and run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download, install, run and print (to paper) the results of Belarc Advisor:
http://belarc.com/free_download.html

This will tell you some vital things about your computer you might need
later and some you should share here now... In particular these bits:
-- System Model
-- Main Circuit Board
-- Memory Modules
-- Drives
-- Display
-- Communications
-- Multimedia

Once you have shared those bits - go ahead and CHKDSK the entire C drive:
http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-vista/how-to-use-check-disk-in-windows-vista/
( "Using the Graphical User Interface (GUI)" should be fine. )

Also, defragment for good measure - but not using the built-in
defragmentation utility - I suggest "Defraggler" - download, install and run
it for a full defragmentation (uncheck the "Install optional Yahoo! Toolbar"
when performing the custom install. Then "Action --> Defrag Drive"):
http://www.piriform.com/defraggler/download/standard

Once all those steps are done and everything reported - we can continue from
there. You have not installed SP1 or SP2 at this time - you are merely
preparing your system and/or providing the information people here can use
to assist you in the preparation that will eventually lead to installing the
two files I asked you to download and save (SP1 and SP2) earlier.
 
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Obviously they did not and that means you are running Windows Vista 32-bit
with *no* service packs.  This is something you should strive to correct.
It will - more than likely - improve your experience by many times over.

Download the stand-alone installer for Windows Vista Service Pack 1:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=b0c7136d-5eb...
(Save it to your computer where you can later find it.)

The download gets stuck on 35%.
PS How will I know in future that my SP status is out of date? Why
doesn't it update automatically?
 
I thought they got downloaded and installed every time it goes through
a lengthy shutdown in which it says 'Installing Updates' or suchlike.
I've had a few of those.

Let me add a bit of info here, in an attempt (I hope useful) to clarify a
point.

A service pack is a major compilation or integration of many updates,
basically a new release of the operating system. I.e., Vista SP1 is not
quite the same OS as Vista, but a new version or release of Vista.

The updates you mention above are (relatively) small corrective programs
(sometimes called patches, although there may be a technical difference
here that I am unaware of). A service pack will usually incorporate all or
most of the ones that preceded its release, as well as add a few new items,
but most of all, by being a more integrated correction, it should be more
stable than the pre-SP version (with its myriad of patches) that it
replaces.

Still, it's true that the SPs should be installed as part of the auto
update process when their time comes.

Shenan Stanley's very thorough explanations include how to get and install
the missing service packs. If you ignore anything, ignore my posts, not his
(or hers?).
 
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