E-Trust Vet

[aalaan]

Hi all. Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM. I found
the machine slowed right down if I left the setting on real time.
Cursor jerky, CPU fan always on etc, although Windows resources meter
did not show any problem. Clicking off the real-time seemed to cure
this.

Any comments on this phenomenon or product?

 

[YoKenny]

Hi all. Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM. I found
the machine slowed right down if I left the setting on real time.
Cursor jerky, CPU fan always on etc, although Windows resources meter
did not show any problem. Clicking off the real-time seemed to cure
this.

Any comments on this phenomenon or product?

I think its time to get a new system.
Win98SE will no longer be supported by Microsoft after July this year and
provide NO UPDATES to this obsolete operating system.

You can purchase a new system unit and use the existing monitor.
Over here the keyboard and mouse are included in the system unit purchase.
The only additional item to purchase is the operating system.

New system unit $450 which consists of a Celeron processor running at 2.0GHZ
and 256MB RAM.
WinXP Home $110 and sometimes it comes bundled and pre-installed with the
system purchase.

E-Trust Vet will run effortlessly on this system.

 

[YoKenny]

I think its time to get a new system.
Win98SE will no longer be supported by Microsoft after July this year
and provide NO UPDATES to this obsolete operating system.

You can purchase a new system unit and use the existing monitor.
Over here the keyboard and mouse are included in the system unit
purchase. The only additional item to purchase is the operating
system.
New system unit $450 which consists of a Celeron processor running at
2.0GHZ and 256MB RAM.
WinXP Home $110 and sometimes it comes bundled and pre-installed with
the system purchase.

E-Trust Vet will run effortlessly on this system.

I forgot to mention these are Canadian prices.

Do not go for brand names like Dell, Compac nor IBM but find a local PC
store that has a good reputation and purchase from them.
They will give better personal service and a MUCH better price.

 

[Pete]

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Hi all. Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM. I found
the machine slowed right down if I left the setting on real time.
Cursor jerky, CPU fan always on etc, although Windows resources meter
did not show any problem. Clicking off the real-time seemed to cure
this.

Any comments on this phenomenon or product?

I have found E-Trust to be light on resource use.
Maybe it's a bad installation. More memory might help!
I'd reinstall first.

 

[aalaan]

Ouch! This is a laptop, so I can't easily replace just the "system unit". I
think I'll make do for the moment. I use Word 2000 to generate an income, and
rely on it

 

[Art]

Hi all. Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM. I found
the machine slowed right down if I left the setting on real time.
Cursor jerky, CPU fan always on etc, although Windows resources meter
did not show any problem. Clicking off the real-time seemed to cure
this.

Any comments on this phenomenon or product?

You don't have enough RAM to use a good up to date realtime av
or even run modern browsers and other applications. Probably,
you don't have sufficient other resources either, such as cpu speed.
Your PC is way outdated.

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[98 Guy]

I think its time to get a new system.
Win98SE will no longer be supported by Microsoft after July this
year and provide NO UPDATES to this obsolete operating system.

That is a totally irrelavent statement.

Microsoft's End-Of-Life for Win-98 comes at a time when the reliance
(if not dire need) for critical updates for W-98 is approaching zero.

There have been very few updates needed for the core components of
Win-98 over the past few years, and as time goes on, any lingering
vulnerabilities for Win-98 systems will likely be IE-related (for
which several alternative browsers exist now and will continue to
exist into the future).

At the time of XP's introduction, and even today, Win-98 was and still
is a more "hardened" OS from a vulnerability standpoint. That reality
is the "elephant in the room" when the issue of 98's pending
end-of-life is raised.

XP was a failed experiment by MS to see how an NT system would fare in
unmanaged environments like the home or small office. The fact is
that it turned many computers into spam-spewing zombies - and worse.

 

[Offbreed]

Hi all. Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM.

Yeah, time to take this one off the net, or use it for e-mail and news
groups only. No web browsing.

 

[* * Chas]

That is a totally irrelavent statement.

Microsoft's End-Of-Life for Win-98 comes at a time when the reliance
(if not dire need) for critical updates for W-98 is approaching zero.

There have been very few updates needed for the core components of
Win-98 over the past few years, and as time goes on, any lingering
vulnerabilities for Win-98 systems will likely be IE-related (for
which several alternative browsers exist now and will continue to
exist into the future).

At the time of XP's introduction, and even today, Win-98 was and still
is a more "hardened" OS from a vulnerability standpoint. That reality
is the "elephant in the room" when the issue of 98's pending
end-of-life is raised.

XP was a failed experiment by MS to see how an NT system would fare in
unmanaged environments like the home or small office. The fact is
that it turned many computers into spam-spewing zombies - and worse.

Hear, hear!

(The correct term is, "hear, hear!" It is an abbreviation for "hear, all
ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to
say!")

I concur. I built a new XP SP2 system for some friends a few weeks ago.
To date there have been over 60 Windows Updates. I have just about every
version of Windows from Win3.1 and NT 3.1 to Server 2003.

I prefer Win98SE for many reasons, one of them being, I can repair just
about anything in less than a half an hour.

Malware writers aren't challenged by Win98. They're mainly writing for
XP and IE.

Chas.

Chas.

 

[YoKenny]

Hear, hear!

(The correct term is, "hear, hear!" It is an abbreviation for "hear,
all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has
to say!")

I concur. I built a new XP SP2 system for some friends a few weeks
ago. To date there have been over 60 Windows Updates.

I hope you assisted them in install them.

I have just about every version of Windows from Win3.1 and NT 3.1 to

Server 2003.

They will come in handy when you start up your own branch of the
Smithstonian Institute.

You could ask them to give you a small spot in the Air and Space museum
right next to the first Compaq or the ENIAC

I prefer Win98SE for many reasons, one of them being, I can repair
just about anything in less than a half an hour.

I guess you have lots of spare parts for your model T automobile.

Malware writers aren't challenged by Win98. They're mainly writing for
XP and IE.

True.

 

[Graeme]

Hi all. Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM. I found
the machine slowed right down if I left the setting on real time.
Cursor jerky, CPU fan always on etc, although Windows resources meter
did not show any problem. Clicking off the real-time seemed to cure
this.

Any comments on this phenomenon or product?

I make clear from the start I am no expert on computers but am also a Win 98 [original version] user and have 190MB Ram .Have used Australian Vet for nearly 7 years . I think it is a fine product but as of the recent updates I identified it as the cause of similar problems to which you describe . Slow opening of programs , curser jumpy , freezing .
I have spoken to Vet support , give them a ring they are easy to talk to ,and although they did offer some suggestions which provided some improvement I think it is true the software is growing and developing perhaps beyond Win 98 .
I found, to temporarily at least, solve my problem I deleted Vet and installed the free AVG Anti Virus Program which is lighter on resources it seems and my computer is running OK again . I am not saying AVG is as good a program as Vet, but it does seem to run and update OK and it solves my problem for the time being . I am pretty careful as far as possible Virus go anyway .

I am thinking of buying a new computer in the near future as I cannot update it anymore [nearly full 6GB Hard drive] although really completely happy with what win 98 does . .When I get the new computer I will revert to the Vet Program .

Of course with only 64MB Ram and can well imagine the slow down.

Graeme

 

[Frankster]

I prefer Win98SE for many reasons, one of them being, I

can repair just about anything in less than a half an hour.

Personally, I prefer DOS 3.3. Best OS ever built. Doesn't require all the
new fangled hardware, like a mouse! And not vulnerable to any network attack
since it is not a network operating system. Why fix it if it ain't broke.

*/tough out of cheek*/

-Frank

 

[Virus Guy]

I hope you assisted them in install them.

Why do you hope that?

Is that your way of saying that most every XP owner needs expert help
(if not their own personal sys-admin) to manage their computer? The
truth is, he shouldn't have had to assist them to install those
updates. They truth is, IT SHOULDN'T NEED ALL THOSE UPDATES. The
truth is, XP WASN'T DESIGNED FOR HOME USE on a number of fronts
(bloated service inventory, complicated user rights mechanisms, etc).

I thought XP was supposed to be a panacea or utopia of increase
productivity, increased stability, increased self-management? Isin't
that why all the lemmings rushed to it back in 2002?

They will come in handy when you start up your own branch of
the Smithstonian Institute.

And he'll be using them productively, while XP users will be too busy
patching their system (or suffering from the aftermath of NOT doing
so).

I guess you have lots of spare parts for your model T
automobile.

Funny thing about software is that it doesn't really wear out, so your
continued references to old physical items is not really a correct
analogy here.

True.

Yes, and they owe quite a bit to Bill Gates and Macro$haft and the
criminal (if not inept) way they planned how XP would be configured
for home use.

 

[Pete]

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Have you defragged your disk recently?
Win 98 with enough RAM is a good enough system for most uses. We have them
at work.
-Pete

 

[aalaan]

Thanks Graeme and Pete

That was really the information I wanted. Being told by other posters that I was running out of date software/machine didn't really help, although I'm sure it was well-meant. It was the easy and obvious reply. I wanted to know if anyone with my configuration was having problems. I will now use the AV on demand (frequently!) rather than real time. BTW as to defrag, I found
defrag took a very long time (couple of hours) on 2.1 Gig so I imagine my 40 Gig drive would take a century (or would it in fact be faster because more room for swaps?) BBTW, as my 40 Gig drive is only slightly full I imagine defrag wouldn't help anyway. In regard to W98SE and XP, the frequent upgrades and problems people report with XP is just why I mistrust "upgrades". At
least W98 is fully bedded in and we aren't likely to be suddenly told "if you apply service pack x you will waste hundreds of valuable hours and may lose your data too". This problem of time is often overlooked. Many people earn money directly from time - I do. IMHO when inadequately tested software/service packs crash and cause untold wasted hours it is akin to being robbed
of your money. I simply cannot afford to be an unpaid tester for any software manufacturer. Perhaps it needs a test case on the grounds of a product being suitable for the use it is intended for (Aust. Sale of Goods legislation). I feel better now....

Hi all. Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM. I found
the machine slowed right down if I left the setting on real time.
Cursor jerky, CPU fan always on etc, although Windows resources meter
did not show any problem. Clicking off the real-time seemed to cure
this.

Any comments on this phenomenon or product?

I make clear from the start I am no expert on computers but am also a Win 98 [original version] user and have 190MB Ram .Have used Australian Vet for nearly 7 years . I think it is a fine product but as of the recent updates I identified it as the cause of similar problems to which you describe . Slow opening of programs , curser jumpy , freezing .
I have spoken to Vet support , give them a ring they are easy to talk to ,and although they did offer some suggestions which provided some improvement I think it is true the software is growing and developing perhaps beyond Win 98 .
I found, to temporarily at least, solve my problem I deleted Vet and installed the free AVG Anti Virus Program which is lighter on resources it seems and my computer is running OK again . I am not saying AVG is as good a program as Vet, but it does seem to run and update OK and it solves my problem for the time being . I am pretty careful as far as possible Virus go anyway .

I am thinking of buying a new computer in the near future as I cannot update it anymore [nearly full 6GB Hard drive] although really completely happy with what win 98 does . .When I get the new computer I will revert to the Vet Program .

Of course with only 64MB Ram and can well imagine the slow down.

Graeme

 

[Nick FitzGerald]

Personally, I prefer DOS 3.3. ...

A man after my own heart...

... Best OS ever built. ...

....but that's going a bit far!

... Doesn't require all the
new fangled hardware, like a mouse! And not vulnerable to any network attack
since it is not a network operating system. Why fix it if it ain't broke.

*/tough out of cheek*/

Humour aside, it is probably the least buggy OS MS has ever released, and
within the bounds of its own limitations, thus the most stable.

Hmmm -- I wonder where my original (5.25") installation diskettes for that
have got to...

 

[Befunge Sudoku]

Hi all. Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM. I found
the machine slowed right down if I left the setting on real time.
Cursor jerky, CPU fan always on etc, although Windows resources meter
did not show any problem. Clicking off the real-time seemed to cure
this.

Any comments on this phenomenon or product?

Used to be good before CA bought it. Dunno about after that.
You do have pretty much a minimum spec machine, it maybe needs
defragging and all the temp files cleaning up.

 

[Befunge Sudoku]

Ouch! This is a laptop, so I can't easily replace just the "system unit". I
think I'll make do for the moment. I use Word 2000 to generate an income, and
rely on it

The income you generate needs to include provision for
replacing your hardware at least every 3 years. If it can't,
there's a problem with your business model.
This sounds a bit harsh, but it's economic reality, if the
machine is used for business.

 

[Befunge Sudoku]

A man after my own heart...

I liked 5.

...but that's going a bit far!

I liked CDC's NOS (we had a 170-730 here)

Humour aside, it is probably the least buggy OS MS has ever released, and
within the bounds of its own limitations, thus the most stable.

Hmmm -- I wonder where my original (5.25") installation diskettes for that
have got to...

You still have access to 5.25" drives?
I have DOS 5 on 3.5" around here somewhere.

 

[Befunge Sudoku]

defrag took a very long time (couple of hours) on 2.1 Gig so I imagine my 40 Gig drive would take a century (or would it in fact be faster because more room for swaps?)
BBTW, as my 40 Gig drive is only slightly full I imagine defrag wouldn't help anyway.

It's not how much you've got, it's how badly broken up it is.
How's your disk partitioned? W98 uses FAT32 which can only do
32G in one chunk, iirc. The major problmes I had with my old 98
machine were due to the C drive being a 1G disk - even though I
put almost everything on the other disk, the system and stuff
Windows wouldn't let me put on D kept filling all the swap
space and temp areas.

With your machine, adding more RAM would probably show the best
performance improvement, if you can still get chips for your
motherboard.