E-Sata/ Exact bootable clone backup?

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Jeff

Question for the experts,

I have an E-sata external exclosure connected to the external sata connector
on the back of my pc

y question is this,

Is it possible to make an "EXACT" bootable clone of my "C" drive and then
physically disconnect the esata drive and "IF" my "C" drive crashes just
swap them out and all will be as it should be?


Also which software to use for this?

Can I just do incremental backups of whats changed on "C" and transfer to
the esata?

Also if stuff is deleted on "c" is a incremental backup smart enuf to delete
on esata or once stored it stays there?

Thnx

jeff
 
Question for the experts,

Wrong forum....lol.
I have an E-sata external exclosure connected to the external sata
connector on the back of my pc

My question is this,

Is it possible to make an "EXACT" bootable clone of my "C" drive and then
physically disconnect the esata drive and "IF" my "C" drive crashes just
swap them out and all will be as it should be?
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It might be possible, but not always all will be as it should be.
Also which software to use for this?
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Ghost, Acronis TI, DriveImage to name a few...
Can I just do incremental backups of whats changed on "C" and transfer to
the esata?
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Do you understand a diiference between "disk image" and "backup"?
Also if stuff is deleted on "c" is a incremental backup smart enuf to
delete on esata or once stored it stays there?
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In case of incremental - no, differential - yes.



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Jeff said:
I have an E-sata external exclosure connected to the external
sata connector on the back of my pc

[M]y question is this,

Is it possible to make an "EXACT" bootable clone of my
"C" drive and then physically disconnect the esata drive and
"IF" my "C" drive crashes just swap them out and all will be
as it should be?


Also which software to use for this?
Click to expand...


An easy utility to use to do this (which is called "cloning")
is Casper XP. For making clones (immediately bootable
copies of an entire partition), Casper XP is excellent. It
can copy individual partitions or entire hard drives so that
you have a choice of archiving just one working OS or
several versions of the OS taken at different times onto
a large backup hard drive, and each clone can be separately
bootable. Casper XP can be downloaded for a free 30-day
trial from www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .
It will also do incremental backups, but I haven't used it for
that, so I don't know how easy it is to use.

If your currently booting hard drive dies, you can just
shut down, remove the dead hard drive and plug in the
clone, reboot, and off you go. If you know how to rearrange
the hard drive boot order in the BIOS, you don't even have
to remove the dead hard drive. In that case, you just tell
the BIOS to put the eSATA drive at the head of the hard
drive boot order so it will go first to the eSATA hard drive
to look for the loader and other boot files.

*TimDaniels*
 
Jeff said:
I have an E-sata external exclosure connected to the external sata connector on the back
of my pc
Click to expand...
y question is this,
Click to expand...
Is it possible to make an "EXACT" bootable clone of my "C" drive
Yes.

and then physically disconnect the esata drive and "IF" my "C" drive crashes just swap
them out and all will be as it should be?
Click to expand...

Yes, thats the big advantage of e-sata over USB2 or firewire.
Also which software to use for this?
Click to expand...

I prefer True Image myself, mainly because you
get a lot more than just that sort of cloning and
that can be handy as well as that sort of cloning.
Can I just do incremental backups of whats changed on "C" and transfer to the esata?
Click to expand...

You can, but that produces image files, which means you
dont get the same instant recovery if the main drive dies.

xxclone will do an incremental clone. Not sure if it will clone
to an esata drive, but there isnt any real reason why it shouldnt.
Also if stuff is deleted on "c" is a incremental backup smart enuf to delete on esata or
once stored it stays there?
Click to expand...

Yes with xxclone.
 
Jeff said:
Question for the experts,

I have an E-sata external exclosure connected to the external sata
connector on the back of my pc

y question is this,

Is it possible to make an "EXACT" bootable clone of my "C" drive and then
physically disconnect the esata drive and "IF" my "C" drive crashes just
swap them out and all will be as it should be?


Also which software to use for this?

Can I just do incremental backups of whats changed on "C" and transfer to
the esata?

Also if stuff is deleted on "c" is a incremental backup smart enuf to
delete on esata or once stored it stays there?

Thnx
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jeff
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Jeff:
Not only is it possible to do what you want to do, but it's eminently
practicable. You can use a disk imaging program such as Symantec's Norton
Ghost (we use the 2003 version, in preference to the Ghost 9 or Ghost 10
versions, which we find simple to use and effective in its results) or
Acronis True Image or the Casper XP program that Tim Daniels recommends.
There are other effective disk imaging products as well.

Using this type of program you can "clone" the contents of your day-to-day
working HD to your eSATA HD, and subsequently replace the failed HD with the
cloned drive should the need arise. The cloned HD, for all practical
purposes, will be a duplicate of the source disk and be bootable. Thus it
will accomplish your objective.

I won't comment on your query re incremental type of backups. Our exclusive
interest is performing disk-to-disk cloning operations for a near-failsafe
backup system. We have no interest in incremental or scheduled or
"differential" backups nor do we have any interest in using a disk imaging
program to create "disk images" on CD/DVD media.

With reasonably modern equipment your data transfer rate (speed of cloning)
should be in the range of 1 GB to 2 GB per minute.
Anna
 
In Timothy Daniels typed:
An easy utility to use to do this (which is called "cloning")
is Casper XP. For making clones (immediately bootable
copies of an entire partition), Casper XP is excellent.
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Hi Tim, but far too expensive! So forget it!
Also NO reference reader but pure Advertisement ;-(
Horst
 
Horst Franke said:
Timothy Daniels typed:

Hi Tim, but far too expensive! So forget it!
Also NO reference reader but pure Advertisement ;-(
Horst
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Since when is a free 30-trial too expensive?
If you decide to buy Casper XP, it costs $50,
much less than other major cloners.
As for "NO reference reader but pure Advertisement",
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Try English.

*TimDaniels*
 
In Timothy Daniels typed:
Since when is a free 30-trial too expensive?
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Hi Tim, no, but it's only an introducing offer.
If you decide to buy Casper XP, it costs $50,
much less than other major cloners.
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Paragon costs about 40 Euros (50,46 USD) and
Acronis Image also about 40 Euros.
So there's NOTHING about "much less"! ;-)
Also Casper XP requires an order by Credit-Card ;-(
This is no actuell paying method in Europe.
As for "NO reference reader but pure Advertisement",
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Try English.
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You did NOT respond on *any Readers* comment!

Horst
 
Horst Franke said:
Hi Tim, no, but it's only an introducing offer.

Paragon costs about 40 Euros (50,46 USD) and
Acronis Image also about 40 Euros.
So there's NOTHING about "much less"! ;-)
Also Casper XP requires an order by Credit-Card ;-(
This is no actuell paying method in Europe.

You did NOT respond on *any Readers* comment!
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Acronis True Image can clone an entire hard drive,
but it cannot directly clone a single partition. To make
a clone of a single partition, one must first make an
image file of the partition, then "restore" that image
to the destination hard drive. Casper XP (like Ghost)
can clone a single partition directly to a destination
hard drive, AND it can put the clone among other
pre-existing partitions of the destination hard drive.

A free 30-day trial is a FREE 30-day trial. That means
"free", gratis, no-cost.

As for "You did NOT respond on *any Readers* comment!",
take a Berlitz lesson in basic English, then get back to us
in a year, verstupfener.

*TimDaniels*
 
Horst said:
In Timothy Daniels typed:

Hi Tim, but far too expensive! So forget it!
Also NO reference reader but pure Advertisement ;-(
Horst
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That may have been a recommdation, but it wasn't an ad.

I've done beta testing on Casper XP for a few years, and it remains one
of the easiest products to use out there.


Odie
 
Odie said:
That may have been a recommdation, but it wasn't an ad.

I've done beta testing on Casper XP for a few years, and
it remains one of the easiest products to use out there.
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It's a sad commentary on our culture that recommendations
are frequently dismissed as paid advertizing. In fact, Future
Systems Solutions has no idea who I am or how to contact
me if they did. When I find a good product or service, I have
to blab about it, and in cloning utilities, Casper XP is blab-
worthy.

*TimDaniels*
 
Acronis True Image can clone an entire hard drive,
but it cannot directly clone a single partition.
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Pity the OP wants to clone the entire physical drive.
To make a clone of a single partition, one must first make an
image file of the partition, then "restore" that image
to the destination hard drive. Casper XP (like Ghost)
can clone a single partition directly to a destination
hard drive, AND it can put the clone among other
pre-existing partitions of the destination hard drive.
Click to expand...

Pity the OP wants to clone the entire physical drive.
A free 30-day trial is a FREE 30-day trial. That means "free", gratis, no-cost.
Click to expand...

Pity the OP is likely to want to clone for more than 30 days.
As for "You did NOT respond on *any Readers* comment!",
take a Berlitz lesson in basic English, then get back to us
in a year, verstupfener.
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You're not sposed to mention the war, child.
 
In Timothy Daniels typed:
Acronis True Image can clone an entire hard drive,
but it cannot directly clone a single partition. To make
a clone of a single partition, one must first make an
image file of the partition, then "restore" that image
to the destination hard drive. Casper XP (like Ghost)
can clone a single partition directly to a destination
hard drive, AND it can put the clone among other
pre-existing partitions of the destination hard drive.
Click to expand...

Sorry Tim, but that makes no sense!
Why to clone and then restore first?
You did not respond on "much less than major products"!
A free 30-day trial is a FREE 30-day trial. That means
"free", gratis, no-cost.
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No one doubted this! Why do You think You've to explain this?
What I wanted to explain Your product provides NO more benifits.
As for "You did NOT respond on *any Readers* comment!",
take a Berlitz lesson in basic English, then get back to us
in a year, verstupfener.
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WHY?
You did not respond to any one but only supplied advertisement!
This has nothing to do with English but only with AD's.
And these are NOT WANTED/to be seen in newsgroups!
Horst
 
In Timothy Daniels typed:
It's a sad commentary on our culture that recommendations
are frequently dismissed as paid advertizing. In fact, Future
Systems Solutions has no idea who I am or how to contact
me if they did. When I find a good product or service, I have
to blab about it, and in cloning utilities, Casper XP is blab-
worthy.
Click to expand...

Sorry Tim, but You said "much less than other major cloners"!
And that was WRONG information. That's why I objected!
Horst
 
"Horst Franke" croaked:
Timothy Daniels typed:

Sorry Tim, but that makes no sense!
Why to clone and then restore first?
You did not respond on "much less than major products"!
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Of course it makes no sense. That's why I don't use
Acronis' True Image. For cloning True Image is only good
for copying the entire hard drive - all the partitions - not
just one partition. For copying just one partition, I use
Casper XP. Others use Ghost.

You did not respond to any one but only supplied advertisement!
This has nothing to do with English but only with AD's.
And these are NOT WANTED/to be seen in newsgroups!
Click to expand...


Your news server apparently drops postings or you don't
read them all. I have stated that I am not affiliated with
Future Systems Solutions, the publishers of Casper XP,
in any way. When I come across a superior product that
no seems to know about, I tell people about it. It's called
"friendly advice". You, apparently, have to be paid.

*TimDaniels*
 
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