DVDdrive reads as cd drive in xp?

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I have got a weird problem where windows xp keeps recognizing my dvd's as
cd's in my dvdwriter, if I go to erase one of my rewriteable dvd's in
windows explorer it only gives me the option to erase a cdrw and it
therefore does not work. The biggest problem I am having though is it taking
a really long time to access a rewriteable dvd when I first put it in the
drive and one disc is never recognized because the accessing attempts seem
to time out before it manages to access it. This dvdwriter was working fine
when it was in my old win98 machine but in this newly built machine with
winxp I am having this problem and I can't figure out why, is it a software
problem or some sort of hardware incompatibility problem, I would think it
would be software. Anyhow the dvdwriter is a lg4163b, there are no firmware
updates available for it, it is running on the secondary ide channel as a
master and there is nothing on the primary ide not that that should make any
difference, my harddrive is sata. Also i have nero installed but not incd.
Winxp is using ntfs. Any type of dvd comes up as a cd in windowsexplorer
although only some rewriteables are having trouble with accessing so it's
all rather confusing because it looks like hardware in some ways but I need
to eliminate the software problems before I consider if there is any
hardware trouble. Googling has not been of any help so would really
appreciate some ideas on this problem.
winxp has sp2 applied
And the dvd's I am having trouble with are not multisession and were not
recorded on with packet recording, i.e incd etc...
 
rising said:
I have got a weird problem where windows xp keeps recognizing my
dvd's as cd's in my dvdwriter, if I go to erase one of my rewriteable
dvd's in windows explorer it only ZZZZZzzzzzzz....
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Send that to a book publisher, maybe he will read it.
 
rising said:
I have got a weird problem where windows xp keeps recognizing my dvd's as
cd's in my dvdwriter, if I go to erase one of my rewriteable dvd's in
windows explorer it only gives me the option to erase a cdrw and it
therefore does not work. The biggest problem I am having though is it taking
a really long time to access a rewriteable dvd when I first put it in the
drive and one disc is never recognized because the accessing attempts seem
to time out before it manages to access it. This dvdwriter was working fine
when it was in my old win98 machine but in this newly built machine with
winxp I am having this problem and I can't figure out why, is it a software
problem or some sort of hardware incompatibility problem, I would think it
would be software. Anyhow the dvdwriter is a lg4163b, there are no firmware
updates available for it, it is running on the secondary ide channel as a
master and there is nothing on the primary ide not that that should make any
difference, my harddrive is sata. Also i have nero installed but not incd.
Winxp is using ntfs. Any type of dvd comes up as a cd in windowsexplorer
although only some rewriteables are having trouble with accessing so it's
all rather confusing because it looks like hardware in some ways but I need
to eliminate the software problems before I consider if there is any
hardware trouble. Googling has not been of any help so would really
appreciate some ideas on this problem.
winxp has sp2 applied
And the dvd's I am having trouble with are not multisession and were not
recorded on with packet recording, i.e incd etc...
Click to expand...

You mention checking for firmware updates, so I'll assume you already
have updated to the latest driver. If not, do that now.

You mention that you had the drive in an older PC and it worked fine.
Are you using the same media ? Many of the newer DVD drives handle all
the different media formats, but many older drives did not. Some
Drives will only work with a few kinds of media, and trying to use DVD
+R in a DVD-R drive may not work. There are several different formats,
and matching the media to what the drive handles is important.

Second, If there is nothing on the primary channel IDE, have you
considered or tried switching it over ?

Finally, if it isn't working correctly from Explorer, have you tried
using a DVD program to erase it ?


Dean G.
 
FWIW, if the Shell Hardware Detection service is not running then DVD
drives will be LABELED as CD drives in explorer, BUT they will still work
just fine (or should at least). Change it's startup type to automatic and
reboot, to see if your issue goes away...
 
FWIW, if the Shell Hardware Detection service is not running then DVD
drives will be LABELED as CD drives in explorer, BUT they will still
work just fine (or should at least). Change it's startup type to
automatic and reboot, to see if your issue goes away...
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Frodo, why are you telling me that? I am not the one with a problem.
 
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "rising said:
I have got a weird problem where windows xp keeps recognizing my dvd's as
cd's in my dvdwriter, if I go to erase one of my rewriteable dvd's in
windows explorer it only gives me the option to erase a cdrw and it
therefore does not work. The biggest problem I am having though is it taking
a really long time to access a rewriteable dvd when I first put it in the
drive and one disc is never recognized because the accessing attempts seem
to time out before it manages to access it. This dvdwriter was working fine
when it was in my old win98 machine but in this newly built machine with
winxp I am having this problem and I can't figure out why, is it a software
problem or some sort of hardware incompatibility problem, I would think it
would be software. Anyhow the dvdwriter is a lg4163b, there are no firmware
updates available for it, it is running on the secondary ide channel as a
master and there is nothing on the primary ide not that that should make any
difference, my harddrive is sata. Also i have nero installed but not incd.
Winxp is using ntfs. Any type of dvd comes up as a cd in windowsexplorer
although only some rewriteables are having trouble with accessing so it's
all rather confusing because it looks like hardware in some ways but I need
to eliminate the software problems before I consider if there is any
hardware trouble. Googling has not been of any help so would really
appreciate some ideas on this problem.
winxp has sp2 applied
And the dvd's I am having trouble with are not multisession and were not
recorded on with packet recording, i.e incd etc...
Click to expand...
A. Make sure you've downloaded the latest driver for that DVD for XP.
B. Make sure you BIOS recognizes the DVD properly.
C. Is your DVD on the secondary IDE port? Sometimes that makes a
difference; as software *expects* CD drives and DVDs to be on the
secondary, not the primary IDE port ... and preferably as SLAVE, not
MASTER.
E. Boot up in "Safe Mode"; and make sure you don't have old CD drivers
still active in Device Manager. (This usually applies more to Win98;
but ...)
F. Try removing the driver (Device Manager again) and rebooting; letting
Windows "discover the new drive"; and making sure it selects a DVD
drive, not a CD. (Use, "I have a disk"; and then "select from a list".)
G. Check "Windows Update" to see if there's a later driver for the DVD.
H. In general: When running either CD or DVD drives, they *usually* run
better with the old-style IDE cables, rather than the new ones ... and,
like I said, on the secondary IDE port. IOW, use the cables that come
with the drive, rather than the more advanced ones the computer usually
uses. Of course, on many later-model computers (motherboards), the BIOS
will bitch if you do this, so that won't work. But usually, if the BIOS
*does* bitch, then you don't have that particular problem either.
 
Dean G. said:
You mention checking for firmware updates, so I'll assume you already
have updated to the latest driver. If not, do that now.

You mention that you had the drive in an older PC and it worked fine.
Are you using the same media ? >
Click to expand...

Yep, the same media.
Second, If there is nothing on the primary channel IDE, have you
considered or tried switching it over ?
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I have considered it but see no logical reason for this to be a problem, I
guess I might give it a go at some stage though if nothing else comes up,
bloody pain getting my computer case out of it's desk cupboard though.
Finally, if it isn't working correctly from Explorer, have you tried
using a DVD program to erase it ?
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Yep, quick erase did not seem to work but full erase did I think.
 
FWIW, if the Shell Hardware Detection service is not running then DVD
drives will be LABELED as CD drives in explorer, BUT they will still work
just fine (or should at least). Change it's startup type to automatic and
reboot, to see if your issue goes away...
Click to expand...

Got excited at your suggestion but unfortunately it's already set to
automatic so not the problem.
 
rising said:
I have got a weird problem where windows xp keeps recognizing my dvd's as
cd's in my dvdwriter, if I go to erase one of my rewriteable dvd's in
windows explorer it only gives me the option to erase a cdrw and it
therefore does not work. The biggest problem I am having though is it
taking
a really long time to access a rewriteable dvd when I first put it in the
drive and one disc is never recognized because the accessing attempts seem
to time out before it manages to access it. This dvdwriter was working
fine
when it was in my old win98 machine but in this newly built machine with
winxp I am having this problem and I can't figure out why, is it a
software
problem or some sort of hardware incompatibility problem, I would think it
would be software. Anyhow the dvdwriter is a lg4163b, there are no
firmware
updates available for it, it is running on the secondary ide channel as a
master and there is nothing on the primary ide not that that should make
any
difference, my harddrive is sata. Also i have nero installed but not incd.
Winxp is using ntfs. Any type of dvd comes up as a cd in windowsexplorer
although only some rewriteables are having trouble with accessing so it's
all rather confusing because it looks like hardware in some ways but I
need
to eliminate the software problems before I consider if there is any
hardware trouble. Googling has not been of any help so would really
appreciate some ideas on this problem.
winxp has sp2 applied
And the dvd's I am having trouble with are not multisession and were not
recorded on with packet recording, i.e incd etc...
Click to expand...

Well now that i have had a chance to try another winxp machine with dvdrom I
now know that it is normal for winxp to say cd in cd drive when putting a
dvd in, very frustrated that nobody pointed out such a crucial and basic
thing, I have been on a wild goose chase, don't get me wrong there is still
something odd going on with my dvdwriter but the first problem to solve
turned out not to be a problem at all, it's one of those things that I guess
you normally would not notice or care about but when you have a problem with
a dvd drive you notice something like this and so since you don't have much
else to go on you focus on this first and who would think that this was
normal unless you had the experience of seeing it elsewhere etc.... My
mistake was I should really have waited to get my hands on the 2nd machine
before trying to sort this problem out.
I didn't make it clear when I started this thread but I was really only
asking in the hope that someone already knew the answer to this problem
through their own expereince, I did not expect anybody who did not already
know the answer to try and fault find for me, just wanted facts that people
already knew like that windows says cd when you put in a dvd, that was the
sort of thing I was after, the rest is up to me.
 
rising said:
I have got a weird problem where windows xp keeps recognizing my dvd's as
cd's in my dvdwriter, if I go to erase one of my rewriteable dvd's in
windows explorer it only gives me the option to erase a cdrw and it
therefore does not work. The biggest problem I am having though is it taking
a really long time to access a rewriteable dvd when I first put it in the
drive and one disc is never recognized because the accessing attempts seem
to time out before it manages to access it. This dvdwriter was working fine
when it was in my old win98 machine but in this newly built machine with
winxp I am having this problem and I can't figure out why, is it a software
problem or some sort of hardware incompatibility problem, I would think it
would be software. Anyhow the dvdwriter is a lg4163b, there are no firmware
updates available for it, it is running on the secondary ide channel as a
master and there is nothing on the primary ide not that that should make any
difference, my harddrive is sata. Also i have nero installed but not incd.
Winxp is using ntfs. Any type of dvd comes up as a cd in windowsexplorer
although only some rewriteables are having trouble with accessing so it's
all rather confusing because it looks like hardware in some ways but I need
to eliminate the software problems before I consider if there is any
hardware trouble. Googling has not been of any help so would really
appreciate some ideas on this problem.
winxp has sp2 applied
And the dvd's I am having trouble with are not multisession and were not
recorded on with packet recording, i.e incd etc...
Click to expand...
XP won't burn to or erase DVD's, you need a third party app like nero,
or if you're frugal
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php
(freeware)
 
'rising' wrote, in part:
| Well now that i have had a chance to try another winxp machine with dvdrom
I
| now know that it is normal for winxp to say cd in cd drive when putting a
| dvd in, very frustrated that nobody pointed out such a crucial and basic
| thing, I have been on a wild goose chase, don't get me wrong there is
still
| something odd going on with my dvdwriter but the first problem to solve
| turned out not to be a problem at all, it's one of those things that I
guess
| you normally would not notice or care about but when you have a problem
with
| a dvd drive you notice something like this and so since you don't have
much
| else to go on you focus on this first and who would think that this was
| normal unless you had the experience of seeing it elsewhere etc....
_____

If you had focused on describing the problem and focused on two or three
newsgroups instead of cross-posting to SIX newsgroup then you might expect
more focused answers.

Fractured syntax and 50-word run-on sentences is NOT the way to describe a
problem. Neither is complaining about the FREE help you got, especially
considering the work necessary to extract information from your post. Your
complaint starts with a ~ 150 word sentence; that's going in the wrong
direction.

Phil Weldon


|My
| mistake was I should really have waited to get my hands on the 2nd machine
| before trying to sort this problem out.
| I didn't make it clear when I started this thread but I was really only
| asking in the hope that someone already knew the answer to this problem
| through their own expereince, I did not expect anybody who did not already
| know the answer to try and fault find for me, just wanted facts that
people
| already knew like that windows says cd when you put in a dvd, that was the
| sort of thing I was after, the rest is up to me.
|
|
|
 
Seem to remember you said something about, using
Nero (?).
when I install Roxio (similar software) on my machine,
I switched OFF M$ CD control in Services, it cured my
problem.
The service is IMAPI CD-burning.
HTH.
 
meerkat said:
Seem to remember you said something about, using
Nero (?).
when I install Roxio (similar software) on my machine,
I switched OFF M$ CD control in Services, it cured my
problem.
The service is IMAPI CD-burning.
HTH.
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Thanks but that did not help my problem.
 
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