DVD weirdness

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Second Asus MB DVDs are messing up. Dual SATA & PATA headers. A HD
in each, but either/or when a DVD is run -- in DOS, binary streaming
is slowed by a x5 factor -if- the binary copy program will reach the
HDs and doesn't go into limbo. Boots sometimes won't pickup the PATA
(boot) drive, and XP takes only after repeated reboots for getting
past non-existent read or perceived corruption errors. Nothing stable
about the DVDs, anyway, when it does take -- hit or miss operational
characteristics for reading or potentially writing. Hit/miss
weirdness with boot CDs, as well.

Started noticing it years ago, when sent a Lite-On back to Newegg for
defective, trick-marked and found my mark when they returned it.
Since branched to include several other DVD brands. Disconnect them
and all problems miraculously disappear. Streams between HDs
Pata><Sata like a banshee.

Turn off open it and there's cables for the contingency -- in the
event I have to try ass-luck hit a boot CD right when actually in need
to get something real done on a HD installation, through a likes
HIREMS boot CD -- partitioning, LFN manipulations, boot arbitrators,
etc. ...Fun going through several power cycles or warm reboots to get
it.

Have a couple Gigabyte MBs, too, for further, extensive tests. Apart
ASUS. Much more of this crap, though, if it shows up on Gigabyte is
only going to leave room for one thing -- DVD manufacturers having
been putting out shit since a couple of years past the NEC 3-series,
4&5xx models, when these problems first showed up, at least for me.

Screw it -- I've a couple PATA <> PCI interface boards, as well as
SATA. Nickel dime silicon Image chipset stuff. That seems to isolate
their gibberish, when it happens, from affecting the broader system
other than direct involvement with optical/disc manipulations.
Totally weird to me -- how optical discs still are of such importance
for distributional means, and how whacked out it's been in my dealings
with at least half a dozen drive names these past years.
 
Flasherly said:
Second Asus MB DVDs are messing up. Dual SATA & PATA headers. A HD
in each, but either/or when a DVD is run -- in DOS, binary streaming
is slowed by a x5 factor -if- the binary copy program will reach the
HDs and doesn't go into limbo. Boots sometimes won't pickup the PATA
(boot) drive, and XP takes only after repeated reboots for getting
past non-existent read or perceived corruption errors. Nothing stable
about the DVDs, anyway, when it does take -- hit or miss operational
characteristics for reading or potentially writing. Hit/miss
weirdness with boot CDs, as well.

Started noticing it years ago, when sent a Lite-On back to Newegg for
defective, trick-marked and found my mark when they returned it.
Since branched to include several other DVD brands. Disconnect them
and all problems miraculously disappear. Streams between HDs
Pata><Sata like a banshee.

Turn off open it and there's cables for the contingency -- in the
event I have to try ass-luck hit a boot CD right when actually in need
to get something real done on a HD installation, through a likes
HIREMS boot CD -- partitioning, LFN manipulations, boot arbitrators,
etc. ...Fun going through several power cycles or warm reboots to get
it.

Have a couple Gigabyte MBs, too, for further, extensive tests. Apart
ASUS. Much more of this crap, though, if it shows up on Gigabyte is
only going to leave room for one thing -- DVD manufacturers having
been putting out shit since a couple of years past the NEC 3-series,
4&5xx models, when these problems first showed up, at least for me.

Screw it -- I've a couple PATA <> PCI interface boards, as well as
SATA. Nickel dime silicon Image chipset stuff. That seems to isolate
their gibberish, when it happens, from affecting the broader system
other than direct involvement with optical/disc manipulations.
Totally weird to me -- how optical discs still are of such importance
for distributional means, and how whacked out it's been in my dealings
with at least half a dozen drive names these past years.

I have a few optical drives here, and they've all (IDE and SATA)
been well behaved.

Maybe you could move the optical drive into a USB enclosure ?

Are your motherboards modern enough to boot from USB DVD ?
I can do that on some of my computers, but not all of them.
A few of the old ones, don't support USB in any useful way.

Paul
 
I have a few optical drives here, and they've all (IDE and SATA)
been well behaved.

On ASUS boards?

P4P800-E Deluxe was the former, caps went out and it was chewing up
power supplies, some of which and still in use, may have briefly been
exposed to it.

This one - ASUS P4V8X-MX micro 478 suspect is already six years old if
not more. Updated to a 95-watt P4 w/ hyperthreading, and my former
multimedia box,

(The Gigabytes -- one, a dual core Gigabyte AMD setup, does the
multimedia, whereas the other, not fully assembled, is a dual core,
early 95-watt Pentium series.)


This kind of stuff, of course, doesn't just happen. It's more
insidious and develops over time. Nor, on two Asus boards, are they
mirror-image problems. For instance, on the board with bad caps, I
threw out, I never lost a PATA HD during BIOS boot ID (I was
*physically* losing power supplies, also, shortly after tossing it, my
one other PATA 200G Seagates bit the dust).

.....meanwhile, all these drives I've bought only from Newegg have been
along for the past 5-year "let's get nuts" DVD party;- hell, I've got
a couple NEC PATA 35x0-series for leftover relics.

Well, if yours all work fine, Paul, at least I know I'm in a parallel
dimension, in the Outer Limits, and this insanity isn't oozing itself
outside of what evidently Fates have seen fit to trust me to contain.
(I'm not really so sure, at this point, that I should be allowed to
hope the bane will be lifted in regards to those Gigabyte boards.)
 
Oh - in regards to USB and such, shall we say "alternatives," I really
wouldn't think you'd think to say that if you were conversant with
HIRENS - i.e., _The Known Good Version_ before copyright issues have
forced it into a ball of *NIX variants. I don't usually bend the
rules, but for you I'll make an exception. This, by the way, is a
"magnetic link" to a few other people conversing on the same
wavelength;- Magnetic Links as a construct should be easily enough
referenced to a client if so needed.

So, without further ado. . .<ta da!>...

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