Dual-Link AGP Card?

[Kyonn Gowans]

Anybody know of a dual-link AGP card that supports direct x 9? I would
prefer a NVIDIA card but I'm willing to consider ATI. Also is it asking to
much for the card to passively cooled, I don't game and the only reason I
need direct x 9 is for windows vista.

 

[Conor]

Anybody know of a dual-link AGP card that supports direct x 9? I would
prefer a NVIDIA card but I'm willing to consider ATI. Also is it asking to
much for the card to passively cooled, I don't game and the only reason I
need direct x 9 is for windows vista.

You mean SLI? Forget it. It's not worth it.

 

[Kyonn Gowans]

You mean SLI? Forget it. It's not worth it.

No I meant dual-link. Why would you think I meant SLI when I said I don't
game. Does SLI even make since in context with an AGP card?

 

[Conor]

No I meant dual-link. Why would you think I meant SLI when I said I don't
game.

Because many people make up all kinds of names for technologies. SLI
doesn't just apply to gaming.

Does SLI even make since in context with an AGP card?

I think the word you were grasping for is "sense" and you're right, it
doesn't but going with my above explanation regarding the naming, I
made the same assumption about the slot used.

Sorry, it comes from years of having to deal with users who have less
than half a clue and trying to second guess them.

 

[J. Clarke]

You mean SLI? Forget it. It's not worth it.

Dual-link is part of the DVI standard--you need it to run very high
resolution displays.

Radeon 9600 Pro PC&Mac Edition (the "PC&Mac" part is important) would
probably be the best bet for the stated requirements. Beyond that you're
pretty much into the realm of workstation boards (QuadroFX and FireGL from
nvidia and ATI respectively).

 

[Benjamin Gawert]

Anybody know of a dual-link AGP card that supports direct x 9? I would
prefer a NVIDIA card but I'm willing to consider ATI. Also is it asking to
much for the card to passively cooled, I don't game and the only reason I
need direct x 9 is for windows vista.

Well, the cheapest new card is ATIs Radeon 9600 PCI & Mac Edition. Or an
used Quadro FX 2000 which should be quite cheap these days (but also
noisy like hell!).

Other than that there are cards like the Quadro FX 3000 and Quadro FX
4000 from PNY (Nvidia) or the ATI FireGL X3-256...

Benjamin

 

[Kyonn Gowans]

Well, the cheapest new card is ATIs Radeon 9600 PCI & Mac Edition. Or an

used Quadro FX 2000 which should be quite cheap these days (but also noisy
like hell!).

Other than that there are cards like the Quadro FX 3000 and Quadro FX 4000
from PNY (Nvidia) or the ATI FireGL X3-256...

Benjamin

Thanks for the help. I can't believe the only card that fits the bill is a
nearly 3 year-old GPU. I rarely ever game but the 9600Pro is pretty old. I
guess no Dell 30 inch LCD in my near future.

 

[Kyonn Gowans]

Dual-link is part of the DVI standard--you need it to run very high

resolution displays.

Radeon 9600 Pro PC&Mac Edition (the "PC&Mac" part is important) would
probably be the best bet for the stated requirements. Beyond that you're
pretty much into the realm of workstation boards (QuadroFX and FireGL from
nvidia and ATI respectively).

Thanks fro the input, I was really hoping one the 6800GS manufactures
supported Dual-Link, well I guess no Dell 3007 for me

 

[Spack]

Kyonn wrote on Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:42:42 -0900:

Thanks for the help. I can't believe the only card that fits the bill is a
nearly 3 year-old GPU. I rarely ever game but the 9600Pro is pretty old. I
guess no Dell 30 inch LCD in my near future.

Check out

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-51772.html

Apparently there are a few 6600 and 6800 based cards that do have a
Dual-link DVI port to do this. To save you having to read through it all,
here's the info:

ALL 6800 Ultra 512MB cards (one DVI port is dual-link, the other is not, so
make sure you use the correct one)

Asus V9999GE
Dell 6800GTO
PNY Verto 6600GT


Also there is this on page 6 of the nVidia driver release notes:

"The GeForce 6800 Ultra 512MB works in single card mode with Apple 30 inch
HD Cinema panel. However, an issue has been discovered when running the
GeForce 6800 Ultra 512MB card in SLI mode with an Apple 30 inch HD Cinema
display. This is due to an interaction between the GPU, the application, and
the ability to scale to nonnative panel resolutions of the Apple display."

So, if you stick with a 6800 Ultra 512MB and don't use SLI you should be
fine.

Dan

 

[Benjamin Gawert]

Thanks for the help. I can't believe the only card that fits the bill is a
nearly 3 year-old GPU. I rarely ever game but the 9600Pro is pretty old.

Pah, the Quadro FX 2000 is basically a Geforce FX 5600 - _this_ one is
old ;-)

Benjamin

 

[Benjamin Gawert]

Check out

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-51772.html

Well, most of the opinions (be aware that most of the postings express
opinions which don't necessarily corelate with facts) are simply BS...

Apparently there are a few 6600 and 6800 based cards that do have a
Dual-link DVI port to do this.

There are _no_ 6600GTs with Dual Link. There are 6600GTs with Dual DVI
which is _not_ the same as Dual Link!

To save you having to read through it all,
here's the info:

ALL 6800 Ultra 512MB cards (one DVI port is dual-link, the other is not, so
make sure you use the correct one)

That's nonsense, too...

There only were a handful of Dual Link capable 6800 cards (the Nvidia
engineering samples, some Dell models, and also some very few cards from
PointOfView), one of which is made by Apple (Geforce 6800 DDL) which
doesn't work in PCs.

_None_ of the 6800 GPUs has Dual Link capable transmitters. Adding them
is optional by the board makers. Unforunately, none of them added Dual
Link to their 6800(GT/Ultra) cards...

Asus V9999GE
Dell 6800GTO
PNY Verto 6600GT

_None_ of these cards has Dual Link DVI. They have Dual DVI which is
_not_ the same as Dual Link...

Also there is this on page 6 of the nVidia driver release notes:

"The GeForce 6800 Ultra 512MB works in single card mode with Apple 30 inch
HD Cinema panel. However, an issue has been discovered when running the
GeForce 6800 Ultra 512MB card in SLI mode with an Apple 30 inch HD Cinema
display. This is due to an interaction between the GPU, the application, and
the ability to scale to nonnative panel resolutions of the Apple display."

This simply is wrong, Nvidias site is telling BS (which btw is not for
the first time)...

So, if you stick with a 6800 Ultra 512MB and don't use SLI you should be
fine.

If he follows this advice he probably will just be disappointed...

Benjamin

 

[John Lewis]

Well, most of the opinions (be aware that most of the postings express
opinions which don't necessarily corelate with facts) are simply BS...


There are _no_ 6600GTs with Dual Link. There are 6600GTs with Dual DVI
which is _not_ the same as Dual Link!

Nothing available in dual-TMDS for AGP. Time for a motherboard
upgrade.

The eVGA 6600GT 256MB PCIe has a dual-link port and a single-link
port.

* 1 Single TMDS DVI-I connector for analog/digital display

* 1 Dual TMDS DVI-I connector for analog/large-screen digital display.

* Supports up to 2560x1600 digital resolutions ( only on dual TMDS DVI
head)

See:-
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=256-P2-N420-TX
and download the Specification .pdf

Price on ZipZoomFly is $169.99 less $10 rebate coupon.

How well the software supports dual-link, I have no idea..............

John Lewis

 

[fredgarven]

Kyonn Gowans

Please understand there is a lot of confusion on the internet abou
DVI connections. Some things to note are DVI-I means it is bot
digital and analog. When your monitor's specs show it requires
dual-link DVI-D for the highest resolution, a dual-link DVI-I meet
this requirement because it is both digital and analog. Mor
information about DVI connections can be found here

http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.htm

There are a lot of vendors and even card makers who will publish tha
their card is dual DVI-I or something like that and it indicates t
the uninformed that it is dual-link. Most times this is not th
case. It simply means it has two DVI-I connections. So don't b
fooled

I have seen a lot of people state the Radeon X800 and X850 series AG
cards sport dual-link DVI. This is not true. They max out a
2048x1536 by switching to analog. The high resolution of 2560x160
just isn't there with those specific cards, yet

The only card I know of that would meet your specifications is th
newly introduced Sapphire X1600 Pro. It comes in both PCI-e and AGP
Both versions have a dual-link DVI connector that will support th
new Dell 3007WFP and the Apple Cinema 30" displays a
2560x1600

Check out this forum thread for confirmation from a user that the AG
version does support his 3007WFP at 2560x1600

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=178615

The card can be purchased right now from here for $165.00

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?pid=13646&sid=3556CVQ24CEU9JJ8V45VVDEB2MQEBM0B

You had better hurry though. Last week they were priced at $150

FredGarve

 

[Chip]

You are mistaken on many points. Read on...

Well, most of the opinions (be aware that most of the postings express
opinions which don't necessarily corelate with facts) are simply BS.

There are _no_ 6600GTs with Dual Link. There are 6600GTs with Dual DVI
which is _not_ the same as Dual Link!

Not true. The Asus V9999GE is a dual-link 6600GT. And no, I do not mean
dual DVI.

That's nonsense, too...

No. It isn't. Its 100% correct.

There only were a handful of Dual Link capable 6800 cards (the Nvidia
engineering samples, some Dell models, and also some very few cards from
PointOfView), one of which is made by Apple (Geforce 6800 DDL) which
doesn't work in PCs.

_None_ of the 6800 GPUs has Dual Link capable transmitters. Adding them is
optional by the board makers. Unforunately, none of them added Dual Link
to their 6800(GT/Ultra) cards...

Apart from the ones mentioned below.

_None_ of these cards has Dual Link DVI. They have Dual DVI which is _not_
the same as Dual Link...

WRONG. I don't know about the PNY Verto, but the other two card certainly
ARE dual link DVI.

This simply is wrong, Nvidias site is telling BS (which btw is not for the
first time)...

No, it isn't. Really, you should read up on this stuff before jumping to
conclusions.

Chip