dual boot & bios

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I dual boot 2k and 98,and have for years, same machine.
after up dating my bios for prescott compatibility
soyo sy-p4865PE plus dragon2 awd bios file 865l2ba1
98 is on partition 0(C:), 2k is on partition 1(D:)
I now recieve the following error when booting into 2k

ntoskern.exe is either courupt or missing reinstall this
file ....(this happends instantly after making the
selection)and the system halts.

restoring the file was no help.
If I revert my Bios to the previous version things are
back to normal. 98 works fine with both bios
 
lance

What does your boot.ini look like?

Most times, this error comes from an incorrect ARC path in boot.ini.

In boot.ini, partition are numbered from 1 and up, so D: should be
partition(2).

Possibly, the new BIOS version has added INT13 extensions, or updated some
functions in your hard disk controller, that could mean that a change in
boot.ini might be needed.

Best regards

Bjorn
 
Hi Lance,

Try this... update your BIOS and then boot to the Recovery Console <
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301645&sd=tech >

Once you authenticate to your Windows 2000 installation in the Recovery
Console type: "map" w/out the quotes

Write down what you see for your C:\ and D:\ drives indicate (if these are
the two partitions used for 98 & 2000, only the second one is important).
For example:

C: FAT 16379MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1

D: FAT 8189MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1 < or maybe >
\Device\Harddisk1\Partition1

- Next boot to Win98, go to C: and make a copy of your boot.ini file
somewhere (you will need to "Show Hidden Files & uncheck "Hide Protected
Operating System Files" in Folder Options... Tools/Folder options from any
window & then on the View tab).

- Open the boot.ini file on C: , you should have an entry under [operating
systems] similar to ->
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional"

- Check & make sure your Windows 2000 "ARC" path is correct for the 2000
installation, compared to the "MAP" entry that would be your Windows 2000
installation.

(see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;102873 for
more information)

For example:

IF MAP showed D: was -> FAT 8189MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2

THEN your ARC path would be multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)

IF MAP showed D: was -> FAT 8189MB \Device\Harddisk1\Partition1

THEN your ARC path would be multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)

Modify your boot.ini ARC path for the Windows 2000 install accordingly. If
the default ARC path "default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\" also
points to your Windows 2000 installation then modify it as well.

In all of this Lance I am assuming your drive letters as this would be the
most standard (E:\ or F:\ could potentially be your 2000 installation,
depending on CDRom drives installed) so you really should take a look at
the two articles to better understand if need-be.

!!!!! Definitely do NOT modify your Windows 98 ARC path !!!!! You could
potentially render your system un-bootable. Also make sure you take the
step to first back up your boot.ini file, that way if you get things out of
wack you can just copy it back to C:\

If after all of this you find that your boot file is indeed accurate then
you may need to contact your motherboard manufacturer for further
assistance.

Cheers,

Mark R. Wilson, MCSA/MCSE
Enterprise Platform Support
Server Setup

Search our Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com/directory

Visit the Windows 2000 Homepage at

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/default.asp

See the Windows NT Homepage at http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/



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Hi Lance,

I totally missed the drive letter/partition information included in your
post. Sounds like these are on the same disk then. Your ARC path for 2000
should be:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)

Please note, this is still provided with several assumptions made and
according to the most standard configuration. If you find that some things
are not "jiveing" with what your ARC path(s) are showing the copy/past the
text from your boot.ini into another message on this thread.

Regards,

Mark R. Wilson, MCSA/MCSE
Enterprise Platform Support
Server Setup

Search our Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com/directory

Visit the Windows 2000 Homepage at

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/default.asp

See the Windows NT Homepage at http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/



NOTE: Please reply to the newsgroup and not directly to me. This allows

others to add to and benefit from these threads and also helps to ensure a

more timely response. Thank you!



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Mark,
first let me thank you and microsoft for allowing us to have acess
to this resource, as an IT professional myself I've had to "wing" things
on my own for years. it's nice to know you guys are out there and can help
in a pinch.
THANKS

That being said, back to the fun!
when I started the subject computer, 98 gave me a bootsec error. i then
sys"ed the c drive loseing 2k's boot record, but 98 was happy again no big-ie
dun this before I proceeded with the following:

I flashed my bios to the new file, ran the recovery console "map" it found
drive 1, partition 1, 2k setup also has the the grace to re enable 2k's boot
record and I was taken back to the selection screen on boot. same problem.
my boot ini:

[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

ARC looks good to me!!
all things being equal this was costing me too much down time, so i readied
myself
for al long night to do a 2k full install under the new bios control.
Setup went without a glitch formated the partition fat32, rebooted re
entered setup no problem. setup finished.
I re started selected 2k,.....and it still wont find ntoskern..
reloaded previous bios and it started right up, of course minus about 4 hrs
worth
of program loading...

any other ideas?

I give..is the prescott realy worth this............?

also i'm sorry if i miss led you about which partition was what, it was only
to
show that the 2 os's were on seprate partitions

thanks for your help
Lance


"Mark Wilson [MSFT]" said:
Hi Lance,

I totally missed the drive letter/partition information included in your
post. Sounds like these are on the same disk then. Your ARC path for 2000
should be:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)

Please note, this is still provided with several assumptions made and
according to the most standard configuration. If you find that some things
are not "jiveing" with what your ARC path(s) are showing the copy/past the
text from your boot.ini into another message on this thread.

Regards,

Mark R. Wilson, MCSA/MCSE
Enterprise Platform Support
Server Setup

Search our Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com/directory

Visit the Windows 2000 Homepage at

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/default.asp

See the Windows NT Homepage at http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/



NOTE: Please reply to the newsgroup and not directly to me. This allows

others to add to and benefit from these threads and also helps to ensure a

more timely response. Thank you!



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lance

According to your boot.ini, Win2000 is installed on a second hard disk, not
on the second partition of your first hard disk.

If it is installed on your first hard disk in a second partition this would
be a working ARC path:

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT

Best regards

Bjorn
--
Bjorn Landemoo - (e-mail address removed) - http://landemoo.com/
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server - File System)

lance said:
Mark,
first let me thank you and microsoft for allowing us to have acess
to this resource, as an IT professional myself I've had to "wing" things
on my own for years. it's nice to know you guys are out there and can help
in a pinch.
THANKS

That being said, back to the fun!
when I started the subject computer, 98 gave me a bootsec error. i then
sys"ed the c drive loseing 2k's boot record, but 98 was happy again no big-ie
dun this before I proceeded with the following:

I flashed my bios to the new file, ran the recovery console "map" it found
drive 1, partition 1, 2k setup also has the the grace to re enable 2k's boot
record and I was taken back to the selection screen on boot. same problem.
my boot ini:

[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

ARC looks good to me!!
all things being equal this was costing me too much down time, so i readied
myself
for al long night to do a 2k full install under the new bios control.
Setup went without a glitch formated the partition fat32, rebooted re
entered setup no problem. setup finished.
I re started selected 2k,.....and it still wont find ntoskern..
reloaded previous bios and it started right up, of course minus about 4 hrs
worth
of program loading...

any other ideas?

I give..is the prescott realy worth this............?

also i'm sorry if i miss led you about which partition was what, it was only
to
show that the 2 os's were on seprate partitions

thanks for your help
Lance


"Mark Wilson [MSFT]" said:
Hi Lance,

I totally missed the drive letter/partition information included in your
post. Sounds like these are on the same disk then. Your ARC path for 2000
should be:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)

Please note, this is still provided with several assumptions made and
according to the most standard configuration. If you find that some things
are not "jiveing" with what your ARC path(s) are showing the copy/past the
text from your boot.ini into another message on this thread.

Regards,

Mark R. Wilson, MCSA/MCSE
Enterprise Platform Support
Server Setup

Search our Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com/directory

Visit the Windows 2000 Homepage at

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/default.asp

See the Windows NT Homepage at http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/



NOTE: Please reply to the newsgroup and not directly to me. This allows

others to add to and benefit from these threads and also helps to ensure a

more timely response. Thank you!



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you are absolutlely correct, as I said.my original post was only ment to
infer that
the 2 os' were on different partitions. This is my first dealings with this
group,
i was un sure of the level of disclosure and the caliber of the people on
the other
side, I am impressed!!
i have made some headway with this problem,and if it pans out I will post the
resolution if not, HELP!!

Bjorn Landemoo said:
lance

According to your boot.ini, Win2000 is installed on a second hard disk, not
on the second partition of your first hard disk.

If it is installed on your first hard disk in a second partition this would
be a working ARC path:

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT

Best regards

Bjorn
--
Bjorn Landemoo - (e-mail address removed) - http://landemoo.com/
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server - File System)

lance said:
Mark,
first let me thank you and microsoft for allowing us to have acess
to this resource, as an IT professional myself I've had to "wing" things
on my own for years. it's nice to know you guys are out there and can help
in a pinch.
THANKS

That being said, back to the fun!
when I started the subject computer, 98 gave me a bootsec error. i then
sys"ed the c drive loseing 2k's boot record, but 98 was happy again no big-ie
dun this before I proceeded with the following:

I flashed my bios to the new file, ran the recovery console "map" it found
drive 1, partition 1, 2k setup also has the the grace to re enable 2k's boot
record and I was taken back to the selection screen on boot. same problem.
my boot ini:

[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

ARC looks good to me!!
all things being equal this was costing me too much down time, so i readied
myself
for al long night to do a 2k full install under the new bios control.
Setup went without a glitch formated the partition fat32, rebooted re
entered setup no problem. setup finished.
I re started selected 2k,.....and it still wont find ntoskern..
reloaded previous bios and it started right up, of course minus about 4 hrs
worth
of program loading...

any other ideas?

I give..is the prescott realy worth this............?

also i'm sorry if i miss led you about which partition was what, it was only
to
show that the 2 os's were on seprate partitions

thanks for your help
Lance


"Mark Wilson [MSFT]" said:
Hi Lance,

I totally missed the drive letter/partition information included in your
post. Sounds like these are on the same disk then. Your ARC path for 2000
should be:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)

Please note, this is still provided with several assumptions made and
according to the most standard configuration. If you find that some things
are not "jiveing" with what your ARC path(s) are showing the copy/past the
text from your boot.ini into another message on this thread.

Regards,

Mark R. Wilson, MCSA/MCSE
Enterprise Platform Support
Server Setup

Search our Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com/directory

Visit the Windows 2000 Homepage at

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/default.asp

See the Windows NT Homepage at http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/



NOTE: Please reply to the newsgroup and not directly to me. This allows

others to add to and benefit from these threads and also helps to ensure a

more timely response. Thank you!



This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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folks,I threw in the towl, formated and reloaded with another NEW Bios
865l2ba2, all is well now but i did find one issue with dual boot.
when you reload 2k it only appeneds the boot .ini file, any problems in
it are there to stay, this time I deleted the file and the 2k wrote it anew
and its happy.
Thanks for every ones Help
lance
 
lance

Thanks for reporting back.

After a quick format boot.ini usually reappears with the content of your
old installation, plus a line for your new installation, while after a full
format it will be completely rewritten.

Best regards

Bjorn
 
Good deal Lance, sorry for my delayed followup... I was out of the office
for 4 days.

Regards,
Mark R. Wilson, MCSA/MCSE
Enterprise Platform Support
Server Setup

Search our Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com/directory

Visit the Windows 2000 Homepage at

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/default.asp

See the Windows NT Homepage at http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/



NOTE: Please reply to the newsgroup and not directly to me. This allows

others to add to and benefit from these threads and also helps to ensure a

more timely response. Thank you!



This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
 
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