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LVTravel said:
XP's disk won't have drivers for 2009-10 hardware. Where
would the "drivers are already present if they're needed"
You need to reread the previous para. XP/SP3 (or even 2) has
drivers for a LOT of objects, and simply being dated 09/10(1/4
of anyway) doesn't mean by any means that drivers aren't with
XP. It is true I should have said "may have" the drivers
needed, but I corrected that in the following sentence.
be located if not on the XP disk and as stated I really
don't think new hardware's drivers would be on a disk that
is more than 6 years older than the current hardware.
XP is XP and SP is SP; many drivers will still apply and if
not the cards may well have drivers available. If not, you get
them from the mfr's site; is that too complex for you?
Regardless I'd probably get a new set of drivers for them
anyway. The only drivers that really matter are going to be
the ones for the motherboard; chipset etc.. I haven't yet seen
mainline audio, video et al cards that would only run on 10.
It's just not in their best interests.
I
have a USB wireless network card that was sold after Vista
came out that doesn't have XP drivers available for it from
the manufacturer How would that particular device ever be
used with XP if it was an installed device in the OP's new
computer?
The exception that proves the rule. YOu're out to be a picky
bass turd so that's how you're being treated.
The OP says he wants information to "need to do to get rid
of Win 7" so my comment is correct. Doesn't want Win 7 so
a dual boot is not what the OP wants.
Yeah, it's sure crude to provide full information, isn't it?
It might well be a way for the OP to do an XP install without
putting his whole machine out of commision for the duration of
figuring out the install. Rather than assisting anything you
seem more bent of being negative and leaving out anything that
might be a beneficial piece of information.
Maybe SP 2 does have SATA drivers (SP3 certainly does)
SP2 does have them. In fact, I went back and checked and one
of my SP1 XP machines had SATA connectors on the mobo. And the
manual explains how to install a SATA device and even has
links to learn more about SATA.
but
who knows what SP of XP the person has.
"One" asks if it's relevant. I'd be willing to bet he's at SP2
minimum, best case SP3. SP1 versions are a real mess of
updates these days and such machines are seldom found. I find
a lot more win98 machines than I do XP SP1 machines. Remember
how quickly SP1 came out?
If the OP tries to
install using XP Gold or SP1 on a SATA drive the install
will fail unless he puts the bios for the drive controller
in IDE mode (now granted it is not called that in the
bios.)
Actually, it is called that, on my machine at least, and in
the SATA docs that accompanied the drives. But I suspect it
doesn't mean what you think it does.
But that's a load of hogwash in its scope and breadth.
As you have todo for a clean install of ANY operating system,
in fact.
Exactly what I said. You just used more words.
Not at all. Who knows what you mean by "strip"? There is no
need to "strip" anything; you just go ahead and boot from the
XP media, assuming you have it and it's not a media machine,
in which case you need a specific partitioning disk first.
OK, you were really getting picky here. When the OP is
installing XP he needs a disk. Who cares where he gets it
from. Yes it is the license that can't be transferred with
an OEM license.
Because if you try to use a Pro for a Home installation, it
will fail to activate unless you have a pirated code to use.
And if you try to use a Home for Home install, the same thing
happens; no activation possible.
Again, I said the exact same thing but in a lot fewer words.
NO, you said it "can't be currently installed onto any other
computer", whatever that means.
I currently have 4 computers that have bios locked XP
installation disks. The oldest is a Dell 8500 that was
first created when Windows ME came out. I have recently
found out that the XP OEM disk that Dell sent me for that
computer is bios locked to that computer as I recently
tried to use that disk on a Sony computer. Didn't work but
the OEM Sony disk did. Same SP level. Therefore, bios
locked CDs have been common in the past. They are not
necessarily "becoming more common."
But they arent necessarily locked. My last three Gateways all
came with OEM disk sets, but when those machines went belly
up, I used the XP install disk to do a clean install to
another computer. So I had to make a 5 minute phone call, big
deal. Never had a single problem. Those machines are still
running. I also have two win98 machines running well. Up to
date, stable and all updates saved to DVDs. In process of the
same with XP although I don't trust them to not issue a final
SP4 when all is done and said. But I"m at SP3 so it's not that
much data, really.
I agree with that statement except who cares about the
preceding paragraph. It isn't pertinent to the point that
with a bios locked disk the OP would not be able to use it
anyway.
But not all of them are "locked" as you describe. If it's an
actual XP install disk, then it's not locked at all. The XP
and win7 disks that came with this machine I'm typing on are
legitimate, unbastardized disks, too. I did a quick compare
of it and my previous XP disk and they are identical with the
exception that the latest one has SP3 on it. Usually it's
the Activation" that locks the computers, not the disk. Buy a
machine from one of the popular outlets like Tiger and see
what you get; they're legit XP OEM disks. I have a friend
that has bought & built three of them that way.
Seems like you were very misleading in your post, going off
half cocked and with the facts given by the OP I was right
on in my comments on "What do I need to do to get rid of
Win 7 and put on XP Pro?"
You were pretty half-fast and neglected several points plus
made vague references to things. I simply added some more
facts, useful or not to the OP I don't know, and could not
care less that you let your nose get out of joint. Many of
your sweeping statements only made it seem less likely the OP
could downgrade and you completely left out many things that
could have put a more positive spin on the distinct
possibilities.
Oh, did I forget to mention, I have done the "downgrade" to
two win7 machines and four Vista machines? Yes, I did the
homework first. We lucked out; but then I know to look first
for the chipset drivers and go from there, not just give it a
sweeping mass of why it can't or shouldn't be tried.
Now, since we're so off topic and in the way of the OP and any
actual help he may be able to get, I'm done conversing with
you over this silliness.
HTH,
Twayne`
