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Does anyone know what happened to the page "Download older versions of
freeware programs that went commercial"? The link:

now gets a "Can't find" from Mozilla.

You had the .com link listed. I changed it to .org, but that has been
down since the 28th.

Once again it's renewal time and they tried to give me the shaft. The
last time it was with another company, which broke it's pledge to keep
the services the same for the same price. This one actually held the
domain hostage (.com) and I bailed and got the (.org) that I have now.
They had a phone loop that would keep you waiting for 15 minutes and
then disconnect. They answered no email. The top guy took the company
funds and left Enron style. There was a class action suit against a
company with no funds.

I started this one (.org) with 100 megs of space and no bandwidth
limit. They changed to a 30 gig bandwidth at some point during the
year. They offer a new package with 2000 megs and a 60 gig bandwidth.
I called twice to make sure that's what I signed up for at renewal on
the 28th.

The site went down at midnight on the 28th, so I figured they were
moving the files. I called yesterday and they had me down for the same
100 meg account. After lengthy discussion (thankfully they made notes
on the calls) I got them to admit I had asked twice for this account
and that's what I'm getting I hope. They wanted to charge me $40 to
"upgrade" while a new customer got the package with no upgrade fee, or
setup charge and with a free domain registration.

The downtime was I think a goofup. They said that it is "propagation
delay for the domain name that should take 24-48 hours." I told them
it's not a new domain, it's just renewal and it's been 3 days (4
today) that the site has been down. They told me they would "expedite"
it earlier today.

These people were great in contrast to FeaturePrice. But the site has
been down unnecessarily and they got the renewal wrong after assuring
me I was in good hands. I see that it's up now. Barring another Enron
style fiasco, I should be OK for another year.

Sheesh, am I the only one this happens to?

The site is back up now.
 
REM wrote in said:
You had the .com link listed. I changed it to .org, but that has been
down since the 28th.

Thanks for keeping it up - and for keeping up with it...

I notice you list Chaos Manager v1.73 and 1.72 on your page.
But a more recent version (1.77) can be found at authors site:
<http://home4.inet.tele.dk/mbresson/cm/index.html>
(Fwiw - just v1.77 installed it to have a look - still freeware,
and still very nice :))

So unless you keep those old versions available for other reasons than
"hard to find" (say like if they are perceived as better/less bloated
etc), you can probably save some on your www quota my removing them.

My guess (but only guessing) is the following explains why you got the
older CM versions listed: It seems the author went without a home for
his programs for a longer period of time: If you look at
<http://home4.inet.tele.dk/mbresson/cm/cwhatnew.html>
there is an entry of 11-mar-01 for 1.72 and a entry of 08-sep-02
for 1.73, and in between those he notes:

"08-sep-02 It's been a while and I have found a new place to
host CM. The previous host suddenly stopped hosting CM without
any notice :-/"

Seems a lot of this is going around...:)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Bjorn Simonsen <[email protected]> wrote:
I notice you list Chaos Manager v1.73 and 1.72 on your page.
But a more recent version (1.77) can be found at authors site:
<http://home4.inet.tele.dk/mbresson/cm/index.html>
(Fwiw - just v1.77 installed it to have a look - still freeware,
and still very nice :))

At one point the author stopped development and I included it. He
wrote me about reviving the project for v1.73 and I got that one. I
didn't realize that he was still going with it.
My guess (but only guessing) is the following explains why you got the
older CM versions listed: It seems the author went without a home for
his programs for a longer period of time: If you look at
<http://home4.inet.tele.dk/mbresson/cm/cwhatnew.html>
there is an entry of 11-mar-01 for 1.72 and a entry of 08-sep-02
for 1.73, and in between those he notes:
"08-sep-02 It's been a while and I have found a new place to
host CM. The previous host suddenly stopped hosting CM without
any notice :-/"
Seems a lot of this is going around...:)

Yes, it seems he had the same hosting frustrations that I have had.
I'm glad to see that he too is still going. I'll probably put a link
to the new site as soon as I finish setting up this machine. I still
don't have my ftp program in yet.

Thanks for the update!
 
Bjorn Simonsen <[email protected]> wrote:
I notice you list Chaos Manager v1.73 and 1.72 on your page.
But a more recent version (1.77) can be found at authors site:
<http://home4.inet.tele.dk/mbresson/cm/index.html>
(Fwiw - just v1.77 installed it to have a look - still freeware,
and still very nice :))

I just added a link to the author's site, which looks like it has
changed since you checked it:

http://home25.inet.tele.dk/mb/cm/index.html

There is a version 1.78 out now, so he's really going with
development.


"Chaos Manager:

What is this?

Well as a computer is supposed to be a helpful tool I always wanted
to organize some of my mess on the computer. But I really disliked
that if I wanted a phonebook, an appointment manager, a calendar and
a notepad. I would have to install these 5-20mb programs which for
once costs a fortune, second they're usually slow to startup and
takes too long to learn, and have like hundred of buttons/options
you never really use.

So I decided to code my own little simple application which ended
up like this. I also added the option to customize your own color
for the application so it won't be so dull to look at.
Try it out, you might like it and you might not, anyway it's freeware
as long as you don't use it in any kind of commercial/business like
way.

Chaos Manager key features.

+ Appointment manager, plays a random wav-file
when appointment has reached it's deadline.
+ Phonebook/adresse book.
+ Build in notepad that supports multiple topics.
+ Calendar
+ Optional password protection.
+ Standby mode (in system-tray or a small window)
+ Optional data encryption so no one can peak into the data files.
+ Simple and easy to use.
+ Daily/weekly appointments.
+ Customize program colors.
+ Skinable (limited)
+ 32bit code which means Win95/98/W2K/NT40/XP.

Features in detail:

Appointments -

Up to 500 appointments, will pop up with a sound when an appointment
has reached/passed it's deadline (date and time). The played sound
is a random .wav file from the directory where Chaos Manager is
located. When the appointment has pop up you can choose between the
following options:
Delete appointment.
Change appointment deadline.
Mark appointment as read but don't delete.
Add a week to appointment deadline.
Add a day to appointment deadline.

Notepad -

Just a little notepad to type in stuff. It supports multiple topics,
to allow the notepad to be more organized.

Phonebook -

This is more then just a phonebook, it can also contain the persons
address and fax/mobile number, balance (if he/she/it owes you money)
email address, and 5 lines of other comments. The phonebook is sorted
after Name from A-Z. It is possible to add,view,edit,delete entries.

Calendar -

Where you can get an overview of which days you have appointments etc.


Standby mode -

By pressing standby the program will run in the background and can be
found in the system tray (in the lower right corner where the clock
also is). When an appointment deadline has been reached it will
popup. Appointments will also popup if the program is not in standby
mode (unless you enable the option to only popup when in standby
mode).

When the program is put in the system-tray you can left-click it's
icon (in the system-tray) to restore the program to it's normal
state, or right-click it for a popup-menu.

Data encryption -

All text in the datafiles (appointments, phone entries, notepad,
password etc.) are encrypted with multiple keys, so it's impossible
to get any information by looking into the datafiles. You might feel
a slowdown when opening and closing the program due to the encrypting,
but if you got a pentium 75 or higher it probably won't bother you,
if so it's possible to disable encryption in setup.

cont..."
 
REM said:
You had the .com link listed. I changed it to .org, but that has been
down since the 28th.

Once again it's renewal time and they tried to give me the shaft. The
last time it was with another company, which broke it's pledge to keep
the services the same for the same price. This one actually held the
domain hostage (.com) and I bailed and got the (.org) that I have now.
They had a phone loop that would keep you waiting for 15 minutes and
then disconnect. They answered no email. The top guy took the company
funds and left Enron style. There was a class action suit against a
company with no funds.

I started this one (.org) with 100 megs of space and no bandwidth
limit. They changed to a 30 gig bandwidth at some point during the
year. They offer a new package with 2000 megs and a 60 gig bandwidth.
I called twice to make sure that's what I signed up for at renewal on
the 28th.

The site went down at midnight on the 28th, so I figured they were
moving the files. I called yesterday and they had me down for the same
100 meg account. After lengthy discussion (thankfully they made notes
on the calls) I got them to admit I had asked twice for this account
and that's what I'm getting I hope. They wanted to charge me $40 to
"upgrade" while a new customer got the package with no upgrade fee, or
setup charge and with a free domain registration.

The downtime was I think a goofup. They said that it is "propagation
delay for the domain name that should take 24-48 hours." I told them
it's not a new domain, it's just renewal and it's been 3 days (4
today) that the site has been down. They told me they would "expedite"
it earlier today.

These people were great in contrast to FeaturePrice. But the site has
been down unnecessarily and they got the renewal wrong after assuring
me I was in good hands. I see that it's up now. Barring another Enron
style fiasco, I should be OK for another year.

Sheesh, am I the only one this happens to?

The site is back up now.

REM,

Glad you're back up, and really sorry to hear about your problems.

I had your site bookmarked and went to it occasionally. You certainly
should be commended for providing that service.

Be sure and let your fans know if you need any help.

Best regards,

Lakeside
 
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