does not seem to find any spyware when adware does?

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I run this program and find 0, then I run yahoo and or
adware and find 3? why is this program not finding any
bad stuff, I update this program to make sure all
definitions are up-todate
 
Terry said:
I run this program and find 0, then I run yahoo and or
adware and find 3? why is this program not finding any
bad stuff, I update this program to make sure all
definitions are up-todate
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This program finds bad stuff but not all, keep your Adaware
also.
One important thing is that with MSAS you also have realtime
protection.

I think this is really difficult for MS to decide how much
to remove.

Interesting article about Lavasoft and CA, soon we will have
this
also against MS.

http://www.networkingpipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60401830
 
You may be seeing Cookies/DataMiners.
At this point MSAS does not check for those low risk items.
 
Microsoft is using these criteria to determine whether a program qualifys
for listing for the user by Microsoft Antispyware:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892340

This is a serious issue--the grounds for listing, the descriptions, and the
action to be take need to be something they can defend in court if
necessary. Spyware, increasingly, has some substantial money behind it.

Microsoft has no quarrel with ad-supported software. We might think that a
program whose only purpose is to display ads is something we'd rather not
see on our machines, but there are lots of viewers of home shopping network,
for example, who might argue otherwise.
 
Yo Bill (S):

I think most of us understand that point...different
strokes for different folks. The concerns are not about
liegit Companies trying to do business. I have made the
choice to accept info, e-mails and newsletters from
Microsoft, HP, ATI, Logitech, Java, UbiSoft, etc. Most
people I interact with have not asked for pop-ups,
unsolicited e-mail, adware, dataminers, trackers,
viruses, trojans, worms, etc. Yet once you connect to the
world wide web it seems you are fair game for every
sociopath with a scheme, identity theft con artists and
bored teenager with some computer skills. We wouldn't
let these people into our homes uninvited, so why put up
with these intrusions on the web?

Warm regards and a tip of the hat to you and the helpful
folks out there...:-)

Bob All
 
Right--it is the "into our homes uninvited" piece that is crucial here.

Let's leave aside the issue of security vulnerabilities in the browser or
the OS for the moment.

For the average user viewing the machine as tool or means to an end, and not
as something they are making their lifes work out of understanding--the line
where you are "inviting in" needs some clearer demarcation.

That's one thing that the real-time protection of Microsoft Antispyware
does--it makes it real clear through those big obnoxious popups that you've
chosen to do something or allow some action, that has a risk associated with
it--when you go to that music lyric site and it says--"click here to enter
the site" the next thing you see (may be) a popup from Microsoft
Antispyware about something being added to your startup programs, and do you
want to allow that.

That makes it clearer to the user that they've just opened the front door,
and the guy with his hand out has just shoved a large foot into it.

I live in a city--and we have a neighborhood listserv. There are a number
of characters--perhaps as many as three---presently knocking on doors or
accosting folks on the street with modest hard-luck stories seeking small
hand-outs--under $10 to $20. They are getting it from enough folks--there's
a pretty good economic mix, that they are sticking around--but it is real
clear from the reports on the listserv what is happening, and that the
stories are bogus.

The Spynet reporting function in Microsoft Antispyware, as I'm sure you
know--functions in a way similar to those listserv reports--in the end, the
users get back feedback about particuar entities about whether they are safe
to let in the front door or not.

So--I'm glad that Microsoft decided to make this functionality available at
no additional cost for licensed Windows customers. I think it is an
important improvement in the UI in a sense--makes it clearer to the users
when they've opened the door--and sometimes what the intent is of the person
standing out there.

So what about the browser or OS vulnerabilities? If you've got stuff in
place because you didn't patch in time in the past, or, indeed, something
took advantage of an unpatched vulnerability--Microsoft Antispyware should
clean it. If a new zero day vulnerability in say, the browser, makes it
through your firewall, Microsoft Antispyware should give you an alert as it
tries to set up housekeeping.

I don't think any of this is news to you--although I'd never thought about
the parallel between the neighborhood listserv and spynet 'til I wrote that
paragraph--but this product does try to provide an answer to the "uninvited"
part of your question. And it provides it in some ways parallel to the way
the firewall prevents uninvited worms or viruses that take advantage of OS
vulnerabilities--if the port isn't open, the worm can't use it. Users are
going to have ports open--they will be connecting via email, http, etc.
They will be opening messages, and clicking on prompts at web sites. Those
actions shouldn't allow unwanted code to persist on their systems, and the
real-time protection afforded by Microsoft Antispyware is a step towards
provding that assurance.
 
-----Original Message-----
I run this program and find 0, then I run yahoo and or
adware and find 3? why is this program not finding any
bad stuff, I update this program to make sure all
definitions are up-todate
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Click to expand...
I'm showing 0-Programs Found..
My McAfee is showing the same also..
But McAfee did detect one program the first time I ran
it..I am not a big inter-net "surfer"..so one program
Found does make sense..
After installation and a UP-Date you are most likely
PROTECTED by 100%..
also check your DEVICE Manager for up-dateing your
DRIVERS..and what is Digitally Signed..
That also Fixed alot of SLOW-Running Programs by alot.
 
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