Does anyone use their computers under 100% stress in a 90F degrees environment?

[ANTant]

Hello.

I am just wondering when you guys build computers. Are you able to keep the computers
stable and not breaking (e.g., a SeaSonic PSU overheated) in a room that is about 90
degrees(F) during heat waves with no air conditions? Computers would be crunching big time
like gaming in this heat. No fancy water cooling setups in the computer cases and no opened
cases either.

I am just wondering and trying to determine what's the best way to keep my boxes stable in
a very hot room (almost like heated indoor garages). In the past, I have seen my computer's
Athlon 64 3200+ (754) CPU go over 160F degrees and ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard go over
120F degrees.

Thank you in advance.
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[kony]

Hello.

I am just wondering when you guys build computers. Are you able to keep the computers
stable and not breaking (e.g., a SeaSonic PSU overheated) in a room that is about 90
degrees(F) during heat waves with no air conditions? Computers would be crunching big time
like gaming in this heat. No fancy water cooling setups in the computer cases and no opened
cases either.
Yes



I am just wondering and trying to determine what's the best way to keep my boxes stable in
a very hot room (almost like heated indoor garages). In the past, I have seen my computer's
Athlon 64 3200+ (754) CPU go over 160F degrees and ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard go over
120F degrees.

First you need to determine what you want the max temp to be
per part. Take temp readings in this environment to
determine what needs changed. might be a heatsink or a fan,
or chassis fans, or adding chassis fans, or even stripping
down the system to cut chassis fan holes.

Usually I prep a case ahead of time, if it looks marginal
I'll make sure it has more potential for cooling that it
would ever need by cutting out fan holes in the front and
rear, and if it were to be in a high temp environment, in
the side panel opposite the video card too (but only if
there is a front intake fan to ensure the HDD rack airflow
isn't decreased by the side fan).

It is useful to have the front intake fans pushing ALL the
air through the HDD rack, not merely having them pointed
directly at it but the rack a few cm back as it always is,
and this means the rack needs be mostly enclosed, not big
gaping slits or holes stamped out all along it. The
difference is not a lot, but I try to tune for lowest noise
too so every bit helps.

If you already have the case and/or don't want to modify one
you may have to accept thicker fans, higher RPM fans (and
more noise) or both.

 

[Rod Speed]

I am just wondering when you guys build computers. Are you able to
keep the computers stable and not breaking (e.g., a SeaSonic PSU
overheated) in a room that is about 90 degrees(F) during heat waves
with no air conditions?

Yes, tho I normally turn the swamp cooler on when it gets over 90F

Computers would be crunching big time like gaming in this heat.

No fancy water cooling setups in the computer
cases and no opened cases either.

I do it with open cases.

I am just wondering and trying to determine what's the best way to
keep my boxes stable in a very hot room (almost like heated indoor
garages). In the past, I have seen my computer's Athlon 64 3200+
(754) CPU go over 160F degrees and ASUS K8V SE Deluxe
motherboard go over 120F degrees.

I use Intel CPUs and they handle that fine.

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Yes, tho I normally turn the swamp cooler on when it gets over 90F



I do it with open cases.


I use Intel CPUs and they handle that fine.

ROTFLMAO! You could heat the house with Intel!

Bobby

 

[Gank]

ROTFLMAO! You could heat the house with Intel!

Bobby

Get with the program, dude. That's changed with Intel's Conroe cpu.

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Get with the program, dude. That's changed with Intel's Conroe cpu.

Dude?

You use the word dude, and want to be taken seriously?

The OP does not have a Conroe...what's your point...Dude?

Bobby

 

[Ed Light]

Is your 3200+ a Venice or Winchester? The previous
ones ran hotter.

It shouldn't go over 60C, better yet, not over 50C.

You can test it by running prime95 torture test overnight.

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[Wes Newell]

Hello.

I am just wondering when you guys build computers. Are you able to keep
the computers stable and not breaking (e.g., a SeaSonic PSU overheated)
in a room that is about 90 degrees(F) during heat waves with no air
conditions? Computers would be crunching big time like gaming in this
heat. No fancy water cooling setups in the computer cases and no opened
cases either.

I am just wondering and trying to determine what's the best way to keep
my boxes stable in a very hot room (almost like heated indoor garages).
In the past, I have seen my computer's Athlon 64 3200+ (754) CPU go over
160F degrees and ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard go over 120F degrees.

If the case temp is going over 120F with a room temp of only 90F then your
case cooling sucks. Fix it. That will also fix the cpu overheating
problem.

 

[kony]

Get with the program, dude. That's changed with Intel's Conroe cpu.

It's now pushing 75W, right? That's not exactly cool
running, actually hotter than many of the Athlons that kids
used to claim were "hot running".

 

[Squibbly]

Hello.

I am just wondering when you guys build computers. Are you able to keep
the computers
stable and not breaking (e.g., a SeaSonic PSU overheated) in a room that
is about 90
degrees(F) during heat waves with no air conditions? Computers would be
crunching big time
like gaming in this heat. No fancy water cooling setups in the computer
cases and no opened
cases either.

I am just wondering and trying to determine what's the best way to keep my
boxes stable in
a very hot room (almost like heated indoor garages). In the past, I have
seen my computer's
Athlon 64 3200+ (754) CPU go over 160F degrees and ASUS K8V SE Deluxe
motherboard go over
120F degrees.

Thank you in advance.
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i have recently more or less attained those temperatures in the current
heatwave and i just went out and bought a new case and two 12cm fans
it has stablised the temperature from reaching the threshold of which i set
the mobo and cpu temperature probe (asus probe since its an asus mobo), the
temperature has now dropped to a "reasonable" temperature that is its gone
down considerably but not as much as i would like to, but maybe that was
because i first used the program in the winter, i never normally used it
because of the specs of my pc werent that good. i had upgraded it springtime
from 768Mb puny ram to 2gb and puny 2.20 ghz p4 non ht to 3.0 p4 ht so that
might of done the temperature inside my old case no good

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

Hello.

I am just wondering when you guys build computers. Are you able to keep the computers
stable and not breaking (e.g., a SeaSonic PSU overheated) in a room that is about 90
degrees(F) during heat waves with no air conditions? Computers would be crunching big time
like gaming in this heat. No fancy water cooling setups in the computer cases and no opened
cases either.

I am just wondering and trying to determine what's the best way to keep my boxes stable in
a very hot room (almost like heated indoor garages). In the past, I have seen my computer's
Athlon 64 3200+ (754) CPU go over 160F degrees and ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard go over
120F degrees.

Thank you in advance.

How well do you function in a 90F room? Your CPU can probably survive
it but how about you. My recommendation is a Sears Plasmaire Air
Conditioner. The Plasmaire's are very quiet. Make sure you get the
Plasmaire, the cheaper ones are much nosier.

 

[Mxsmanic]

How well do you function in a 90F room? Your CPU can probably survive
it but how about you. My recommendation is a Sears Plasmaire Air
Conditioner. The Plasmaire's are very quiet. Make sure you get the
Plasmaire, the cheaper ones are much nosier.

I agree that the solution is air conditioning. It keeps you cooler,
and it keeps your computer cooler ... and both of these make for much
more pleasant gaming (as well as any other use of the computer).

 

[ANTant]

First you need to determine what you want the max temp to be
per part. Take temp readings in this environment to
determine what needs changed. might be a heatsink or a fan,
or chassis fans, or adding chassis fans, or even stripping
down the system to cut chassis fan holes.

Usually I prep a case ahead of time, if it looks marginal
I'll make sure it has more potential for cooling that it
would ever need by cutting out fan holes in the front and
rear, and if it were to be in a high temp environment, in
the side panel opposite the video card too (but only if
there is a front intake fan to ensure the HDD rack airflow
isn't decreased by the side fan).

It is useful to have the front intake fans pushing ALL the
air through the HDD rack, not merely having them pointed
directly at it but the rack a few cm back as it always is,
and this means the rack needs be mostly enclosed, not big
gaping slits or holes stamped out all along it. The
difference is not a lot, but I try to tune for lowest noise
too so every bit helps.

If you already have the case and/or don't want to modify one
you may have to accept thicker fans, higher RPM fans (and
more noise) or both.

I am planning to get one of those Antec ATX mid-tower cases to replace this old
1998 mid-tower ATX generic case. But I am not sure how much that is going to help
if my room is so hot.
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[ANTant]

Is your 3200+ a Venice or Winchester? The previous
ones ran hotter.

I don't know. All I know it's 754 CPU. Which one is that?

It shouldn't go over 60C, better yet, not over 50C.

You can test it by running prime95 torture test overnight.

Yeah, I used cpuburn and it can go very hot but gaming is worse because other
things get hot like my NVIDIA GeForce 6800 card.
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[ANTant]

Hello.

i have recently more or less attained those temperatures in the current
heatwave and i just went out and bought a new case and two 12cm fans
it has stablised the temperature from reaching the threshold of which i set
the mobo and cpu temperature probe (asus probe since its an asus mobo), the
temperature has now dropped to a "reasonable" temperature that is its gone
down considerably but not as much as i would like to, but maybe that was
because i first used the program in the winter, i never normally used it
because of the specs of my pc werent that good. i had upgraded it springtime
from 768Mb puny ram to 2gb and puny 2.20 ghz p4 non ht to 3.0 p4 ht so that
might of done the temperature inside my old case no good

Were the temperatures taken from heavy usage like gaming?
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[ANTant]

General Schvantzkoph writes:

I agree that the solution is air conditioning. It keeps you cooler,
and it keeps your computer cooler ... and both of these make for much
more pleasant gaming (as well as any other use of the computer).

Electrcity used by AC is expensive in this area. Even when AC is on, it doesn't
seem to do well due to its central unit and old age (20-30 years?) Also I don't
own this house (parents').
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[NilEinne]

Hello.

I am just wondering when you guys build computers. Are you able to keep the computers
stable and not breaking (e.g., a SeaSonic PSU overheated) in a room that is about 90
degrees(F) during heat waves with no air conditions? Computers would be crunching big time
like gaming in this heat. No fancy water cooling setups in the computer cases and no opened
cases either.

I am just wondering and trying to determine what's the best way to keep my boxes stable in
a very hot room (almost like heated indoor garages). In the past, I have seen my computer's
Athlon 64 3200+ (754) CPU go over 160F degrees and ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard go over
120F degrees.

Thank you in advance.

90 F is 32 C. These temperatures are resonably common in tropical
countries (e.g. Malaysia) and many people there don't use aircons in
their homes. They do have fans of course so there is an inroom airflow.
However I suspect this doesn't make that much difference for the case
temp. Their computers survive. So so should yours... Just make sure
your CPU fan is working and your preferbly have at least one
ventilation fan and one blowing fan in your comp.

N.B. Some companies (Intel is one I recall), rather bizzarrely suggest
25 C or so maximum ambient temperatures for their products. These
companies are therefore rather bizzarrely suggesting that you should
not run your comp in many countries without an airconditioned room.

 

[NilEinne]

How well do you function in a 90F room? Your CPU can probably survive
it but how about you. My recommendation is a Sears Plasmaire Air
Conditioner. The Plasmaire's are very quiet. Make sure you get the
Plasmaire, the cheaper ones are much nosier.

No need, just get a fan...

 

[Wes Newell]

Electrcity used by AC is expensive in this area. Even when AC is on, it
doesn't seem to do well due to its central unit and old age (20-30
years?) Also I don't own this house (parents').

I had a new compressor unit put in for my central air about 6 tears ago.
last year it developed a freon leak. I already had an old 5000 btu window
unit for backup in my computer room. So as a temp fix I went out and got a
12,000btu unit for the front section of the house. After seeing how well
that cooled the front section I started testing electricity use. In short,
for less than it would have cost to replace the compressor unit again I
purchased seperate 5000btu window units for each bedroom. Total cost of
all window units was under $600 and my eclectric bill was cut by more than
30%. And during those 100F+ days when the central air had a hard time
keeping the house cool, the window units will freeze you out if you turn
them on max. Central air sucks for efficiency. I normally only run 2 of
the four window units at a time That uses about half the electrity the
central unit used and still keeps me more comfortable. The 5000btu room
units are easy to put in in minutes without having to make any permanent
changes to the window. The larger one din't require window changes but
it's pretty heavy and I leave it in year round. Another Plus is that if
one window unit fails, you won't suffer from the heat like you will when
the cenral unit fails.

 

[kony]

I am planning to get one of those Antec ATX mid-tower cases to replace this old
1998 mid-tower ATX generic case. But I am not sure how much that is going to help
if my room is so hot.

OK... but some of the things I wrote may still apply.

On the other hand, 90F isn't exactly comfortable for the
humans in same room, and having one or more gaming systems
will further elevate the room temp if the room isn't
reasonably ventilated. It could be best in the long run to
just get an air-conditioner. Even a basic window unit for
$100 might help (the users).