Do threads get removed from here ???

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will

I have noticed at times that threads go missing

I know this NG isn't monitored but it's kinda strange that threads dissapear
without a trace
 
/will/ said:
I have noticed at times that threads go missing

I know this NG isn't monitored but it's kinda strange that threads dissapear
without a trace
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Check the MESSAGE, VIEW and/or THREAD settings, to verify that they are
what you want them to be.
 
The retention time is 60 or 90 days I think.

Make sure you have things set to View | Current View | Show all messages and
also make sure you have the option to download xxx headers at a time
unchecked under Tools | Options | Read.

steve
 
Generally, no they do not get removed (though some spam threads are removed)
regardless of content. What you see has several factors involved, including
how often and how many headers are synched, how often they are purged from
your local store, view settings, etc.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
will said:
I have noticed at times that threads go missing

I know this NG isn't monitored but it's kinda strange that threads
dissapear without a trace
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(It is not strictly true to state that these newsgroups are not
"monitored")
Microsoft can and does remove threads or posts from these newsgroups.
This removal may or may not be honoured by the replicating news server
you may use. However if you are using msnews.microsoft.com or
news.microsoft.com you may see threads/posts removed.
They may be removed for a number of reasons. These include, use of
profanity (although the filters may block these before they even
appear), advertising, personal attacks, off topic or inappropriate
content, posting of confidential or NDA content etc.
Most of this is covered at
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx#EMC
which covered the acceptable use policies for participation in these
Microsoft community services.
 
Slightly wrong. This group is not monitored by Microsoft, but the MVP's can
report inappropriate postings to Microsoft for removal.
 
While they are not managed, these newsgroups do get scanned by MS personnel
at their own convenience. However, don't assume that means reading all the
posts. Mostly MS personnel use keyword searches for items relating to their
product team's projects and features. Using precise technical vocabulary
greatly increases the liklihood of an MS product team member picking up your
post and giving you useful advice.
 
Mike Brannigan has a different opinion to you & considering he works for MS
I tend to believe him.
 
Your opinion conflicts with Mike Brannigan's & considering he works for MS I
tend to believe him.
 
Hi,

What I stated is that generally they don't get removed regardless of
content, except in the case of spam. This is pretty much how it goes, not
much on-topic gets removed except, as Mike has stated, "They may be removed
for a number of reasons. These include, use of profanity (although the
filters may block these before they even appear), advertising, personal
attacks, off topic or inappropriate content, posting of confidential or NDA
content etc." Basically, inappropriate, OT threads. Not much different from
what I stated. Some think that threads that slam MS or that turn into flame
wars get removed, and this is not the case.

In the case of Will (the OP), who cannot see a thread, it may simply be that
his view settings aren't set correctly or that he needs to download more
headers, not that it was removed. On-topic threads are never removed, though
they do eventually expire.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
Maybe you should read more carefully. There was no conflict between their
and Mike's comments.

The points is that whole threads are not showing and that's not due to any
level of censorship. That's due to his WinMail or OE settings.

There is no one nuking threads.

steve
 
Rick said:
Generally, no they do not get removed (though some spam threads are
removed) regardless of content. What you see has several factors
involved, including how often and how many headers are synched, how
often they are purged from your local store, view settings, etc.
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False. Posts are censored and there are filters to filter out profanity.

Alias
 
Alias said:
False. Posts are censored and there are filters to filter out
profanity.
Alias
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Hmm, a bit of irony there, I think. The person who objects to the profanity
has to have a comprehensive knowledge of profane words in order to compile
the kill-list.

;-)

John
 
If you see a post that you want to save, just drag it out of the Win Mail or
OE list, and you can put it anywhere you like and delete it when you're
throught with it.

CH
 
will said:
I have noticed at times that threads go missing

I know this NG isn't monitored but it's kinda strange that threads
dissapear without a trace
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They are not monitored in any official capacity, just unofficially. I
and others have been censored in this and other ms groups before. Below
is a link from one who has been censored before:

http://www.microscum.com/censored/

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
Nina DiBoy said:
They are not monitored in any official capacity, just unofficially. I and
others have been censored in this and other ms groups before. Below is a
link from one who has been censored before:

http://www.microscum.com/censored/
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Yes, children are often told to keep quiet when adults are talking. The
above kid richly deserves to have his posts removed.

Mike
 
Nina DiBoy said:
They are not monitored in any official capacity, just unofficially.
I and others have been censored in this and other ms groups before.
Below is a link from one who has been censored before:
...
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When I removed a number of the posts by the person you mention some
time ago - they were all done within the remit of what I have already
posted as reasons why a post may be removed from a Microsoft
newsgroup.
You should be very careful about your use of the word "censored"
there is a difference between removing things that contravene publicly
stated conditions of a newsgroups use and the emotive imagery and
feeling that accusations of censorship bring up.
 
Perhaps you need to read the post again.
There are two problems with what you wrote.
There is no conflict.
Mike no longer works for Microsoft AFAIK.
 
Mike said:
When I removed a number of the posts by the person you mention some
time ago - they were all done within the remit of what I have already
posted as reasons why a post may be removed from a Microsoft
newsgroup.
You should be very careful about your use of the word "censored"
there is a difference between removing things that contravene publicly
stated conditions of a newsgroups use and the emotive imagery and
feeling that accusations of censorship bring up.
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The reason it makes me feel that it is censored Mike is because these
rules are selectively enforced.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
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