Do I need a new board now??

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Magwheelz

Hey,
I got the Sapphire Atlantis 9800 pro and ran the benchmarks. They
are not impressive and others with the same parts are 30% better than
mine without overclocking. While things are running fine I wonder why.
Where is my bottleneck?? Will nForce2 help? It will handle my CPU and
RAM. I hate to have such a nice card being held back. What do I need??

Asus A7V266-C 266fsb, AMD 2400+ 266, 768meg PC2100 ddr
Gotta go,
Magwheelz
 
Magwheelz said:
Hey,
I got the Sapphire Atlantis 9800 pro and ran the benchmarks. They
are not impressive and others with the same parts are 30% better than
mine without overclocking. While things are running fine I wonder why.
Where is my bottleneck?? Will nForce2 help? It will handle my CPU and
RAM. I hate to have such a nice card being held back. What do I need??

Asus A7V266-C 266fsb, AMD 2400+ 266, 768meg PC2100 ddr
Gotta go,
Magwheelz
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Okay... lets begin

Do the games you wish to play, play nice at high enough resolutions
and hot enough eye-candy.

Yes/No

Yes:

In that case, you don't need to upgrade

No:

In that case wait untill the new lines of videocards are out since no
card currently on the market is really much faster

So in both cases, DON"T UPGRADE!

Just be happy with what you have!
 
Your system RAM is possibly the problem at pc2100 it could be holding up the
rest of the system
 
Your system RAM is possibly the problem at pc2100 it could be holding up the
rest of the system
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PC2100 is the best my board will do. I was wondering because other
folk with the same cpu get 20-30% better Aquamark3 scores with the
same card. It appears that the neither the CPU nor the card are
overclocked in most cases. I rank 110 out of 125 at 30,000 marks. So
those worse than me are using pc133??


Gotta go,
Magwheelz
 
Magwheelz said:
Hey,
I got the Sapphire Atlantis 9800 pro and ran the benchmarks. They
are not impressive and others with the same parts are 30% better than
mine without overclocking. While things are running fine I wonder why.
Where is my bottleneck?? Will nForce2 help? It will handle my CPU and
RAM. I hate to have such a nice card being held back. What do I need??

Asus A7V266-C 266fsb, AMD 2400+ 266, 768meg PC2100 ddr
Gotta go,
Magwheelz
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Is this an ALi chipset board? If so, you need a registry tweak to get the
AGP working full speed... I had to do this a while back on Asus board and it
worked.

If you run DXDIAG do you see that AGP is disabled on the DISPLAY tab???
 
Is this an ALi chipset board? If so, you need a registry tweak to get the
AGP working full speed... I had to do this a while back on Asus board and it
worked.
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Chipset Properties
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8366A Apollo KT266A
In-Order Queue Depth 4
CAS Latency 2.5T
RAS To CAS Delay 3T
RAS Precharge 3T
RAS Active Time 6T

Memory Slots
DRAM Slot #1 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #3 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)

AGP Properties
AGP Version 2.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 32 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x
Current AGP Speed 4x
Fast-Write Not Supported
Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled

Chipset Manufacturer
Company Name VIA Technologies, Inc.
Product Information
http://www.via.com.tw/en/apollo/chipsetindex.jsp
Driver Download http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

If you run DXDIAG do you see that AGP is disabled on the DISPLAY tab???
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All directX features are enabled there. I had an ALi board some time
back but changed it to build a DDR system back when PC2100 was fast.

Gotta go,
Magwheelz
 
Magwheelz said:
Chipset Properties
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8366A Apollo KT266A
In-Order Queue Depth 4
CAS Latency 2.5T
RAS To CAS Delay 3T
RAS Precharge 3T
RAS Active Time 6T

Memory Slots
DRAM Slot #1 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #3 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)

AGP Properties
AGP Version 2.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 32 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x
Current AGP Speed 4x
Fast-Write Not Supported
Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled

Chipset Manufacturer
Company Name VIA Technologies, Inc.
Product Information
http://www.via.com.tw/en/apollo/chipsetindex.jsp
Driver Download http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2



All directX features are enabled there. I had an ALi board some time
back but changed it to build a DDR system back when PC2100 was fast.

Gotta go,
Magwheelz
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Change your AGP Aperture size to equal or larger than the amount of memory
installed in your 9800.
 
Hey,
I got the Sapphire Atlantis 9800 pro and ran the benchmarks. They
are not impressive and others with the same parts are 30% better than
mine without overclocking. While things are running fine I wonder why.
Where is my bottleneck?? Will nForce2 help? It will handle my CPU and
RAM. I hate to have such a nice card being held back. What do I need??

Asus A7V266-C 266fsb, AMD 2400+ 266, 768meg PC2100 ddr
Gotta go,
Magwheelz
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The AMD2400 & 9800Pro is a good package... getting a faster system
won't give you SUPER boost...

BUT... what OS are you using? With the AMD XP CPUs and modern
boards... Windows98 suffers about a 20% performance loss compared to
WinXP... but the video card benchark doesn't change much.

Perhaps the Sapphire9800Pro isn't a true pro?
 
Your system should be running awesome. I'd say its a software problem.
You've probably got load of junk in your registry and system tray your
not even aware of. FORMAT and try again :) Or if your brave enough,
use regedit.

Mark
 
Your system should be running awesome. I'd say its a software problem.
You've probably got load of junk in your registry and system tray your
not even aware of. FORMAT and try again :) Or if your brave enough,
use regedit.

Mark
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Format done! Fresh install of WinXP (shows my determination) but no
help.

Gotta go,
Magwheelz
 
The AMD2400 & 9800Pro is a good package... getting a faster system
won't give you SUPER boost...

BUT... what OS are you using? With the AMD XP CPUs and modern
boards... Windows98 suffers about a 20% performance loss compared to
WinXP... but the video card benchark doesn't change much.

Perhaps the Sapphire9800Pro isn't a true pro?
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WinXP sp1a - Cat 3.10 - fresh formatted install. (Sorry, I should
have mentioned my OS from the get go. This is the Aida32 report...

Graphics Processor Properties
Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (R350)
GPU Code Name R350
PCI Device 1002 / 4E48
Transistors 117 million
Process Technology 0.15u
Bus Type AGP
Memory Size 128 MB
GPU Clock 378 MHz
RAMDAC Clock 400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines 8
TMU Per Pipeline 1
Vertex Shaders 4 (v2.0)
Pixel Shaders 1 (v2.0)
DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v9.0
Pixel Fillrate 3024 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate 3024 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type DDR
Bus Width 256-bit
Real Clock 338 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 676 MHz
Bandwidth 21632 MB/s

Graphics Processor Manufacturer
Company Name ATI Technologies Inc.
Product Information http://www.ati.com/products/home-office.html
Driver Download http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html

I set the SMARTGART at 4x and 3d Settings at Optimal Performance in
the ATI display settings.

Gotta go,
Magwheelz
 
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