Do Epson Printers Do an Initial "Charging" of the Printhead?

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Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print head?
Seems my first set of ink cartridges (one is the high capacity black) in my
C84 have already gone down a notch but I haven't printed much on it. My
primary printer is the Canon i560 since I have a lot of black ink for it. I
think I should just get a laser printer =P

Thanks!
 
xNokia3390x said:
Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print head?
Seems my first set of ink cartridges (one is the high capacity black) in my
C84 have already gone down a notch but I haven't printed much on it. My
primary printer is the Canon i560 since I have a lot of black ink for it. I
think I should just get a laser printer =P

Thanks!
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Don't know about Epson, but my Canon does, and a recent check of my
first ink cartridges shows they are at 80% with the printer only being
installed three days and hardly used.

In Canon's case I can turn off the print head cleaning at start up
function which saves on ink (so they say), well will see.

Candide
 
xNokia3390x said:
Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print
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head?

The charging is quite deliberate aimed squarely at your wallet
Tony
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Epson C64/ C84 Lighfast pigmented inks. R200/300,
RX500 (all with 30% more free patent chip)
Canon BCI-3 i560 i750 BCI-6 i865 S-820 / S-900 series.
Specialist ink refill kits... http://www.inkylink.co.uk
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Tony said:
head?

The charging is quite deliberate aimed squarely at your wallet
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What drivel!

Ink will not appear at the nozzle until the head is filled, or charged,
with ink. The volume of the head is a significant proportion of the
contents of a cartridge, so the first cartridge shows a low content very
quickly. Subsequent cartridges do not require the print head to be
charged because, unless you have been stupid enough to over-ride the
protection and run the head completely dry, the head is already filled
with ink from the previous cartridge. If you do that, then the cost of
an ink charge is likely to be the least of your worries! In short, used
correctly, the volume of that first charge of ink stays in the print
head for the life of the printer.

But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
Tony's!
 
Just Allan said:
Endlessly.
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Is it that bad? I'll see how fast it goes through the three set of Epson
OEM ink cartridges I have. One came with the printer, one came with a
second printer I bought (free after rebate) and another from eBay for $30.
Overall cost will be around $50, so if it comes out to be a junk printer
I'll just toss it/donate it.
 
Kennedy McEwen said:
Ink will not appear at the nozzle until the head is filled, or charged,
with ink. The volume of the head is a significant proportion of the
contents of a cartridge, so the first cartridge shows a low content very
quickly. Subsequent cartridges do not require the print head to be
charged because, unless you have been stupid enough to over-ride the
protection and run the head completely dry, the head is already filled
with ink from the previous cartridge. If you do that, then the cost of
an ink charge is likely to be the least of your worries! In short, used
correctly, the volume of that first charge of ink stays in the print
head for the life of the printer.
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That makes sense. I have three sets of ink cartridges (OEM) so I should be
set for a while I hope. It'll be a second printer since I have so much
black ink for my Canon i560. I appreciate the info.
But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
Tony's!
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Ha ha...yeah, I've noticed his shameless plugs which if you don't pay
attention, won't realize that he's self-advertising most of the time =P [no
offense tony]
 
Is it that bad?
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No. The print heads are only charged the first time the printer is used.
If it didn't, there wouldn't be any ink in the system when you use it!
After that it will run a cleaning cycle on certain occasions, such as when
a new cartridge is inserted, but that's not head charging.

Some people complain about cleaning cycles being run when the printer is
switched on or if it hasn't been used for some time. However, I leave my
2200 switched on all the time and sometimes leave it idle for a week or
more at a time and it rarely runs a cleaning cycle.

Jon.
 
xNokia3390x said:
Kennedy McEwen said:
But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
Tony's!
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Ha ha...yeah, I've noticed his shameless plugs which if you don't pay
attention, won't realize that he's self-advertising most of the time =P [no
offense tony]
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I think you are right as I've found Stink-link to be shameless. On the other
hand it is pointless sending advice to the opinionated as they always know
better, and quite pointless not to direct users in need to JetTec cartridges
as they are half the price of Epson. Advice however gathered from several
100 users of JetTec could be valid and count for some feedback at least
equal to chip-on-shoulder lurkers.
In case you've not realised Epson innovated the chip and JetTec (British)
innovated the savings :-)
Tony
PS http://stink-link.com is a bad link whereas http://www.inkylink.co.uk
works...
 
Tony said:
xNokia3390x said:
Kennedy McEwen said:
But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
Tony's!
Click to expand...

Ha ha...yeah, I've noticed his shameless plugs which if you don't pay
attention, won't realize that he's self-advertising most of the time =P [no
offense tony]
Click to expand...

I think you are right as I've found Stink-link to be shameless. On the other
hand it is pointless sending advice to the opinionated as they always know
better, and quite pointless not to direct users in need to JetTec cartridges
as they are half the price of Epson. Advice however gathered from several
100 users of JetTec could be valid and count for some feedback at least
equal to chip-on-shoulder lurkers.
Tony
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Oi Stinky - nobody offering advice on this thread is a lurker and most
have been subscribing to the newsgroup long before juvenile
know-it-all's like you arrived and began corrupting the place with your
continual self advertising. If your product is so good, how come you
have to resort to spam to sell it?

Don't confuse lurkers with those who normally keep Stink in the
killfile, where it belongs.
 
xNokia3390x said:
Kennedy McEwen said:
But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
Tony's!
Click to expand...

Ha ha...yeah, I've noticed his shameless plugs which if you don't pay
attention, won't realize that he's self-advertising most of the time =P [no
offense tony]
Click to expand...

I think you are right as I've found Stink-link to be shameless. On the other
hand it is pointless sending advice to the opinionated as they always know
better, and quite pointless not to direct users in need to JetTec cartridges
as they are half the price of Epson. Advice however gathered from several
100 users of JetTec could be valid and count for some feedback at least
equal to chip-on-shoulder lurkers.
In case you've not realised Epson innovated the chip and JetTec (British)
innovated the savings :-)
Tony
PS http://stink-link.com is a bad link whereas http://www.inkylink.co.uk
works...
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Permajet are far better.
 
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Stinky - nobody offering advice on this thread is a lurker and most
have been subscribing to the newsgroup long before juvenile
know-it-all's like you arrived and began corrupting the place with your
continual self advertising. If your product is so good, how come you
have to resort to spam to sell it?

Don't confuse lurkers with those who normally keep Stink in the
killfile, where it belongs.
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How odd. At 66 I've become juvenile. And killfile (Oh the dread) normally
means you don't read posts which offend your delicate sensibilities: and yet
you reply. Maybe you should get a job ? There must be vacancies for
nit-pickers surely :-)
Practical advice from a huge experience base is given and it sometimes does
contain a signature. That's not considered spam.
Here's a useful URL showing the biggest by being best in Europe... Tony
http://www.jettec.com/reman.asp

Inkylink JetTec UK Quality - Wot others wanna-be
Epson C64/ C84 Lighfast pigmented inks. R200/300,
RX500 (all with 30% more free patent chip)
Canon BCI-3 i560 i750 BCI-6 i865 S-820 / S-900 series.
Specialist ink refill kits... http://www.inkylink.co.uk
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| Inkylink JetTec UK Quality - Wot others wanna-be
| Epson C64/ C84 Lighfast pigmented inks. R200/300,
| RX500 (all with 30% more free patent chip)
| Canon BCI-3 i560 i750 BCI-6 i865 S-820 / S-900 series.
| Specialist ink refill kits... http://www.inkylink.co.uk

But they — and all the others I can find — don't mention anything
about refills for the Epson R series. Once that damned chip is dealt
with, are there any non-Epson ink sites that have quality inks
specifically for the R200, R300, etc.?

Larc



§§§ - Change planet to earth to reply by email - §§§
 
Practical advice from a huge experience base is given...
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Unfortunately, your advice is often misleading or just plain wrong. This
makes the rest unreliable and I, for one, would never trust any advice you
give.

Jon.
 
Jon O'Brien said:
Unfortunately, your advice is often misleading or just plain wrong. This
makes the rest unreliable and I, for one, would never trust any advice you
give.

Jon.
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You've obviously been studying long and hard for this. Possibly you for one
have never bought anything from the site - which means you're trumpeting
through your other end. Proof , then some more proof otherwise your remarks
are not worth bothering with. But - one in a thousand can and does exist.
Tony
 
Tony said:
And killfile (Oh the dread) normally
means you don't read posts which offend your delicate sensibilities:
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In this case you were killfiled for being a persistent spammer who
prefers to deliberately mislead for their own benefit than actually
contribute useful information.
and yet
you reply.
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Yes, having recently cleared out my killfile of old crap, I was
disheartened to find you are still polluting these parts with
misinformation, such as your entrée in this thread. But, fear not, you
will now be returned to linger alone in my fresh killfile. Plonk-er!
Maybe you should get a job ?
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I already have one which, I suspect, pays significantly better than
yours - I haven't been reduced to peddling my wares via spam, as you
persist in doing!
 
You've obviously been studying long and hard for this.
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Huh? The only 'studying' I've been doing is reading the messages in
which you give lousy advice.
Possibly you for one have never bought anything from the site
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What site? I'm talking about the dodgy advice I've seen you giving in this
newsgroup.
Proof , then some more proof otherwise your remarks are not worth
bothering with.
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If anyone wants proof, they only have to look back at the advice you've
posted here in the past.
But - one in a thousand can and does exist.
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There are a thousand ones in a thousand. So what? It's a meaningless
statement which has no bearing on my comment.

Jon.
 
Epson printers, and most inkjet printers do an initial charging of the
head to remove and replace a protective fluid in the head on shipping.
They also so a smaller flushing between cartridges, and on start up
after some hours or days. All of these lower the amount of ink in
yourcartridge.

Art
 
Right on!

I found Tony's message to be very disingenuous and self-serving. As
Kennedy states,. the ink has to be fed through the head to clear it of
fluid and air that are in it from the factory.

Later purges and charges are less long, but are there to prevent air
locks and air causing partial and temporary pseudo-clogs that will spoil
your first print or two otherwise.

The ink cost is one issue, the need for these charges and purges are
quite another.

Art
 
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