DNS Domain controlled with Active Directory and Web Hosting

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guys , i need help here
i have windows 2000 advanced server and windows XP PRO client
siemens router address 192.168.254.254
Server address 192.168.254.239
Client address 192.168.254.99

i have a domain name which is http://www.cheapcardsonline.com with
godaddy.com

i have changed my name servers on the configuration of my account with
godaddy to point to my wan ip address and the server name which is in this
case
cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com , so my server name is
cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com , i made this windowsxp client part of my
domain , so everything is fine , i can log into the domain with no problems
, but i can get my web hosting to work

when i run " nslookup cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com " i get the
following
Server: cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com
Address: 192.168.254.239

Name: cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com
Address: 192.168.254.239

i don't think this is right , isn't the address ofor the second line should
be a wan address , because i ran that from the outside world , i ran that
from my job , and cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com should be a wan address not a
lan address , i think this is my problem

if i type type this address " http://cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com " or "
http://24.223.250.24 " it works fine and i can view my webpage but i can't
get

"http://www.cheapcardsonline.com " to work , when i type this in it errors
out

i was reading in the internet somewhere and someone said that i need
something like 2 servers but i wasn't sure excactly what he was talking
about , anhy inputs from you guys is greatly appreciated all i want here is
to be able to type http://www.cheapcardsonline.com and takes me to my page
at home , so i want to host my own domain from home .Thanks alot in advance
 
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xdrivex said:
guys , i need help here
i have windows 2000 advanced server and windows XP PRO client
siemens router address 192.168.254.254
Server address 192.168.254.239
Client address 192.168.254.99

i have a domain name which is http://www.cheapcardsonline.com with
godaddy.com

i have changed my name servers on the configuration of my account with
godaddy to point to my wan ip address and the server name which is in
this case
cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com , so my server name is
cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com , i made this windowsxp client part of my
domain , so everything is fine , i can log into the domain with no
problems , but i can get my web hosting to work

when i run " nslookup cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com " i get the
following
Server: cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com
Address: 192.168.254.239

Name: cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com
Address: 192.168.254.239

i don't think this is right , isn't the address ofor the second line
should be a wan address , because i ran that from the outside world ,
i ran that from my job , and cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com should be a
wan address not a lan address , i think this is my problem

if i type type this address " http://cheetah.cheapcardsonline.com "
or " http://24.223.250.24 " it works fine and i can view my webpage
but i can't get

"http://www.cheapcardsonline.com " to work , when i type this in it
errors out

i was reading in the internet somewhere and someone said that i need
something like 2 servers but i wasn't sure excactly what he was
talking about , anhy inputs from you guys is greatly appreciated all
i want here is to be able to type http://www.cheapcardsonline.com and
takes me to my page at home , so i want to host my own domain from
home .Thanks alot in advance
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Actually you will need two. One for your private subnet, for your internal
machines to get to it by the private IP addresses, and one to host the
public IP addresses for your Internet users to get to it by. To get to a
"www" name, you'll have to add the "www" as an A record under your domain
zone and give it your WAN IP address. This would be on the server hosting
the public IPs.

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Regards,
Ace

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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
Ace ,
Thanks for reply i really appreciate it .

i'm not sure if i understand this correctly

are you saying that i need to have 2 machines :
one to host the public ip address with www A record entry in the forward
zone and this is going to be on my server that is running W2K advanced
server alread

and the second is for the private subnet for my internal machines

couple of questions :
what operating system the second machine should be ?

can you give me more details about what i need to do on the second machine
and how can i setup the private subnet for internal machines , i'm kind of
confused on what i need to do .Thanks alot

One for your private subnet, for your internal> machines to get to it by the
private IP addresses, and one to host the
public IP addresses for your Internet users to get to it by. To get to a
"www" name, you'll have to add the "www" as an A record under your domain
zone and give it your WAN IP address. This would be on the server hosting
the public IPs.
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"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
 
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xdrivex said:
Ace ,
Thanks for reply i really appreciate it .

i'm not sure if i understand this correctly

are you saying that i need to have 2 machines :
one to host the public ip address with www A record entry in the
forward zone and this is going to be on my server that is running W2K
advanced server alread

and the second is for the private subnet for my internal machines

couple of questions :
what operating system the second machine should be ?

can you give me more details about what i need to do on the second
machine and how can i setup the private subnet for internal machines
, i'm kind of confused on what i need to do .Thanks alot

One for your private subnet, for your internal> machines to get to it
by the private IP addresses, and one to host the
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This OS does not matter if your are using it for your public zone. But you
should keep the private zone on Win2k if this is an AD domain.

You can easily use NT4 for your public zones, its hardware requirements are
a lot less than Win2k, for that fact you can use Linux. But NT4 would be
easier, since you can use a lot of the same admin tools from Win2k on NT4.
 
so can i use my existing windows xp client , and what should i excactly do ,
i'm still unclear of what i should do
????????????????


Thanks
 
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xdrivex said:
so can i use my existing windows xp client , and what should i
excactly do , i'm still unclear of what i should do
????????????????
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Leave the private zone on the Win2k DC, so far as your public DNS move that
to another machine. I don't know what other machines you have you can use
BIND for your public DNS if you have a machine you can install it on. It
doesn't require much in the way of hardware and DNS is fairly easy to
secure. So far as that goes you can run BIND on a W9x machine, I suppose.

But all internal machines must use the DC for DNS.
 
Thanks for your reply
i guess i'm still confused
if you can clear up this for me first i aould really appreciate it

what is private zone ? and what is public DNS ?
all the machiens i have are windows 2000 server advanced and windows xp pro
the w2k server is running a DC DNS with Active directory
what is BIND used for ?
do you have any instructions or a tech note i can read on this ?
 
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xdrivex said:
Thanks for your reply
i guess i'm still confused
if you can clear up this for me first i aould really appreciate it

what is private zone ?
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A DNS zone that publishes private IP addresses, if these records get
published to the public namespace your sites won't be accessable by anyone
outside your network
and what is public DNS ?
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A DNS zone that publishes routable IP addresses that can be accessed from
anywhere over the internet.
all the machiens i have are windows 2000 server advanced and windows
xp pro the w2k server is running a DC DNS with Active directory
what is BIND used for ?
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BIND (Berkeley Internet Name Domain) is an implementation of the Domain Name
System (DNS) protocols it is another DNS server that can run on many
different platforms
do you have any instructions or a tech note i can read on this ?
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These are questions that require considerable time to answer just do an
internet search on the subject, if you are asking these you probably
shouldn't be attempting to publish your own DNS yet, or your domains won't
be accessable by anyone but you.
 
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xdrivex said:
Thanks for your reply
i guess i'm still confused
if you can clear up this for me first i aould really appreciate it

what is private zone ? and what is public DNS ?
all the machiens i have are windows 2000 server advanced and windows
xp pro the w2k server is running a DC DNS with Active directory
what is BIND used for ?
do you have any instructions or a tech note i can read on this ?
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Just to add, the private IP ranges are:
192.168.0.0 /16
172.16.0.0 /19
10.0.0.0 /8

These addresses are NOT routable on the Internet and are used for private
networks. You can do what you want with them. Of course, to gain access
you'll need some sort of NAT device, either using Windows or ISA Server or a
hardware solution such as a Linksys, Netgear, etc, box.

You can also choose a public IP range that is provided to you by your ISP.

You would use the one DNS to host your public IPs that people are trying to
look up your domain name and access your website by it's public IP. These
IPs are on this server. The private server is for AD and the internal folks
ONLY. You do not want this data to be accessible from the Internet for
security reasons. If both are on the one machine, besides a security issue,
may cause some things just not work internally and/or externally.

As Kevin pointed out, some of your questions would require lengthy
responses. Most of the answers are actually on the Internet. With the
questions being asked, with all due respect, I would highly suggest to
attend some basica and then advanced classes on these subjects. They would
be very informative and ALL your questions will be answered. You would also
have the instructor as a resource after you complete the course(s).

Hope that helps.

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Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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Xdrive, here's some more info to read up on about DNS:

Domain Name System (DNS) Center:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/communications/dns/

Also, you may want to look at this video:
330511 - Training Understanding and Troubleshooting DNS in Windows 2000:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330511

Howstuffworks How Domain Name Servers Work:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/dns.htm

Windows 2000 DNS and DDNS Resources -good stuff here too:
http://www.labmice.net/networking/DNS.htm

Windows 2000 DNS White Paper:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/howitworks/communications/nameadrmgmt/w2kdns.asp

IIS Answers - DNS for IIS Administrators:
http://www.iisanswers.com/articles/dns_for_iis.htm

324260 - HOW TO Configure DNS Records for Your Web Site in Windows Server
2003 (works for 2000 too]:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324260

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Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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