Disk transfer question

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I want to make sure I proceed correctly in this scenario....user had an IDE
drive in a Wn2K Pro box......wanted to have it available in his
server..........he removed it and installed it in the server on an IDE
channel...it is set to cable select....when booting, errors were detected
and the chkdsk utility ran and completed without issue............he then
opened disk manager and was prompted to write a signature to the
disk......he did ! ! The only option available now to access the drive
data is to format it............any suggestion about recovering the data?
NTFS utilities? TIA
 
Ken ...

Writing a disk signature would not cause the drive to be unreadable. The
disk sig is held in the MBR and is simply a way for the OS to keep track of
the physical drive. I am a bit concerned that something happened either
before he moved the drive or during CHKDSK.

The first suggestion would be to run a quick read-only chkdsk on the drive
from within the OS. The drive gets a letter, correct? Run CHKDSK X:
(presuming X: was the drive letter). What does CHKDSK come back with?

If you do get a drive letter, open up My Computer, right click on the drive
and push EVERYONE FULL CONTROL down the entire drive. Permissions can cause
some odd errors.

As a last resort, pop it back into the Windows 2000 Pro machine and see if
he can see the data.

Hope this helps.
 
Thanks Britten.........the CHKDSK G: returns "The type of file system is
RAW"


Britten Martin said:
Ken ...

Writing a disk signature would not cause the drive to be unreadable. The
disk sig is held in the MBR and is simply a way for the OS to keep track of
the physical drive. I am a bit concerned that something happened either
before he moved the drive or during CHKDSK.

The first suggestion would be to run a quick read-only chkdsk on the drive
from within the OS. The drive gets a letter, correct? Run CHKDSK X:
(presuming X: was the drive letter). What does CHKDSK come back with?

If you do get a drive letter, open up My Computer, right click on the drive
and push EVERYONE FULL CONTROL down the entire drive. Permissions can cause
some odd errors.

As a last resort, pop it back into the Windows 2000 Pro machine and see if
he can see the data.

Hope this helps.

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



Ken F said:
I want to make sure I proceed correctly in this scenario....user had an IDE
drive in a Wn2K Pro box......wanted to have it available in his
server..........he removed it and installed it in the server on an IDE
channel...it is set to cable select....when booting, errors were detected
and the chkdsk utility ran and completed without issue............he then
opened disk manager and was prompted to write a signature to the
disk......he did ! ! The only option available now to access the drive
data is to format it............any suggestion about recovering the data?
NTFS utilities? TIA
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Ken ...

RAW typically lets you know that the bootsector has been deleted or
corrupted.

I would try putting it back in the Windows 2000 Pro machine. If prompted,
choose to IMPORT.

Beyond that, if you are familar with the tool, you could certainly use Disk
Probe to examine the bootsector. If it is NTFS, there is a chance you could
copy over the backup bootsector.

153973 Recovering NTFS Boot Sector on NTFS Partitions
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=153973

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



Ken F said:
Thanks Britten.........the CHKDSK G: returns "The type of file system is
RAW"


Britten Martin said:
Ken ...

Writing a disk signature would not cause the drive to be unreadable. The
disk sig is held in the MBR and is simply a way for the OS to keep track of
the physical drive. I am a bit concerned that something happened either
before he moved the drive or during CHKDSK.

The first suggestion would be to run a quick read-only chkdsk on the drive
from within the OS. The drive gets a letter, correct? Run CHKDSK X:
(presuming X: was the drive letter). What does CHKDSK come back with?

If you do get a drive letter, open up My Computer, right click on the drive
and push EVERYONE FULL CONTROL down the entire drive. Permissions can cause
some odd errors.

As a last resort, pop it back into the Windows 2000 Pro machine and see if
he can see the data.

Hope this helps.

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



Ken F said:
I want to make sure I proceed correctly in this scenario....user had
Click to expand...
an
IDE
drive in a Wn2K Pro box......wanted to have it available in his
server..........he removed it and installed it in the server on an IDE
channel...it is set to cable select....when booting, errors were detected
and the chkdsk utility ran and completed without issue............he then
opened disk manager and was prompted to write a signature to the
disk......he did ! ! The only option available now to access the drive
data is to format it............any suggestion about recovering the data?
NTFS utilities? TIA
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Thanks again Britten......I am 1/2 step ahead of ya.....I put the drive back
in the W2KPro box.......the thing is, it was just a data drive.....the
W2KPro machine booted without incident...it assigns the disk a drive
letter......if I run CHKDSK against the drive, I get the same
error......type of file system is RAW.......the guy must have done something
else to this while it was in the server (from disk management).....he swears
he did not approve a "format" command........it seems that would be true
otherwise I would be seeing some type of access......it was previously NTFS.
Any other ideas before I resign to telling him it is gone?


Britten Martin said:
Ken ...

RAW typically lets you know that the bootsector has been deleted or
corrupted.

I would try putting it back in the Windows 2000 Pro machine. If prompted,
choose to IMPORT.

Beyond that, if you are familar with the tool, you could certainly use Disk
Probe to examine the bootsector. If it is NTFS, there is a chance you could
copy over the backup bootsector.

153973 Recovering NTFS Boot Sector on NTFS Partitions
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=153973

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



Ken F said:
Thanks Britten.........the CHKDSK G: returns "The type of file system is
RAW"


track
of
Click to expand...
see
if
he can see the data.

Hope this helps.

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



I want to make sure I proceed correctly in this scenario....user had an
IDE
drive in a Wn2K Pro box......wanted to have it available in his
server..........he removed it and installed it in the server on an IDE
channel...it is set to cable select....when booting, errors were detected
and the chkdsk utility ran and completed without issue............he then
opened disk manager and was prompted to write a signature to the
disk......he did ! ! The only option available now to access the drive
data is to format it............any suggestion about recovering the data?
NTFS utilities? TIA
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Just noticed something with Partition Magic..............this was formerly a
Dell drive, so it has a 7MB utility partition........I am still showing that
the drive is 07 (Hex) Unformatted


Ken F said:
Thanks again Britten......I am 1/2 step ahead of ya.....I put the drive back
in the W2KPro box.......the thing is, it was just a data drive.....the
W2KPro machine booted without incident...it assigns the disk a drive
letter......if I run CHKDSK against the drive, I get the same
error......type of file system is RAW.......the guy must have done something
else to this while it was in the server (from disk management).....he swears
he did not approve a "format" command........it seems that would be true
otherwise I would be seeing some type of access......it was previously NTFS.
Any other ideas before I resign to telling him it is gone?


Britten Martin said:
Ken ...

RAW typically lets you know that the bootsector has been deleted or
corrupted.

I would try putting it back in the Windows 2000 Pro machine. If prompted,
choose to IMPORT.

Beyond that, if you are familar with the tool, you could certainly use Disk
Probe to examine the bootsector. If it is NTFS, there is a chance you could
copy over the backup bootsector.

153973 Recovering NTFS Boot Sector on NTFS Partitions
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=153973

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



Ken F said:
Thanks Britten.........the CHKDSK G: returns "The type of file system is
RAW"


Ken ...

Writing a disk signature would not cause the drive to be unreadable. The
disk sig is held in the MBR and is simply a way for the OS to keep track
of
the physical drive. I am a bit concerned that something happened either
before he moved the drive or during CHKDSK.

The first suggestion would be to run a quick read-only chkdsk on the drive
from within the OS. The drive gets a letter, correct? Run CHKDSK X:
(presuming X: was the drive letter). What does CHKDSK come back with?

If you do get a drive letter, open up My Computer, right click on the
drive
and push EVERYONE FULL CONTROL down the entire drive. Permissions can
cause
some odd errors.

As a last resort, pop it back into the Windows 2000 Pro machine and
Click to expand...
see
if
he can see the data.

Hope this helps.

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



I want to make sure I proceed correctly in this scenario....user
Click to expand...
had
an
IDE
drive in a Wn2K Pro box......wanted to have it available in his
server..........he removed it and installed it in the server on an IDE
channel...it is set to cable select....when booting, errors were
detected
and the chkdsk utility ran and completed without issue............he
then
opened disk manager and was prompted to write a signature to the
disk......he did ! ! The only option available now to access the
drive
data is to format it............any suggestion about recovering the
data?
NTFS utilities? TIA
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Ken ...

You *MAY* be able to get the data back using the steps outlined in the
article I sent you ...

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=153973

It sounds like the drive was formatted. You may need to rebuild it
completely. There are 3rd party disaster recovery companies that may be
able to assist with this. Microsoft Support is not in the business of doing
this, but if you called Support for Windows 2000 Server, you may get an
engineer who is comfortable with Disk Probe enough to rebuild your partition
table and check your bootsector.


--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



Ken F said:
Just noticed something with Partition Magic..............this was formerly a
Dell drive, so it has a 7MB utility partition........I am still showing that
the drive is 07 (Hex) Unformatted


Ken F said:
Thanks again Britten......I am 1/2 step ahead of ya.....I put the drive back
in the W2KPro box.......the thing is, it was just a data drive.....the
W2KPro machine booted without incident...it assigns the disk a drive
letter......if I run CHKDSK against the drive, I get the same
error......type of file system is RAW.......the guy must have done something
else to this while it was in the server (from disk management).....he swears
he did not approve a "format" command........it seems that would be true
otherwise I would be seeing some type of access......it was previously NTFS.
Any other ideas before I resign to telling him it is gone?


Britten Martin said:
Ken ...

RAW typically lets you know that the bootsector has been deleted or
corrupted.

I would try putting it back in the Windows 2000 Pro machine. If prompted,
choose to IMPORT.

Beyond that, if you are familar with the tool, you could certainly use Disk
Probe to examine the bootsector. If it is NTFS, there is a chance you could
copy over the backup bootsector.

153973 Recovering NTFS Boot Sector on NTFS Partitions
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=153973

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



Thanks Britten.........the CHKDSK G: returns "The type of file
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
system
is
RAW"


Ken ...

Writing a disk signature would not cause the drive to be unreadable.
The
disk sig is held in the MBR and is simply a way for the OS to keep track
of
the physical drive. I am a bit concerned that something happened either
before he moved the drive or during CHKDSK.

The first suggestion would be to run a quick read-only chkdsk on the
drive
from within the OS. The drive gets a letter, correct? Run CHKDSK X:
(presuming X: was the drive letter). What does CHKDSK come back with?

If you do get a drive letter, open up My Computer, right click on the
drive
and push EVERYONE FULL CONTROL down the entire drive. Permissions can
cause
some odd errors.

As a last resort, pop it back into the Windows 2000 Pro machine
Click to expand...
and
see
if
he can see the data.

Hope this helps.

--
Britten Martin [MSFT]
(e-mail address removed)



I want to make sure I proceed correctly in this scenario....user had
an
IDE
drive in a Wn2K Pro box......wanted to have it available in his
server..........he removed it and installed it in the server on
Click to expand...
an
IDE
channel...it is set to cable select....when booting, errors were
detected
and the chkdsk utility ran and completed without issue............he
then
opened disk manager and was prompted to write a signature to the
disk......he did ! ! The only option available now to access the
drive
data is to format it............any suggestion about recovering the
data?
NTFS utilities? TIA
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
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