Disk space requirements

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I've just finished working on a 45min video in Moviemaker
2, when transfering the completed movie back to DV tape
Moviemaker displays an warning message, stating that there
is not enough disk space to create the necesary temp file.
I'v 8.5Gb free, anybody any suggestion as to how much more
may be needed. Is there a formula one can apply?

Any help or suggestions will be greatfully received....
 
Figure DV-AVI is fixed at about 13 GB per hour... so 45 minutes needs 9.75
GB.

My personal rule of thumb, with everything else going on with your computer
and some of them needing disk space, you should have enough working space
and elbow room by having twice the free space you calculate.... based on
that 19-1/2 GB would work.

You can work with less space but expect to get such messages.... for example
MM2 makes temporary files and then copies them into the DV-AVI file... so at
times you can have double the space needs for some data.... but the needs
vary and the temp files are automatically deleted when MM2 is finished with
them.
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PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org

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Hello there,

One hour of DV-AVI can occupy anything from just under 13GB up to just under
16GB The size is very much dependent on the content just as it is with still
images.

As you do not have enough disk space you could split the project into perhaps 3
pieces and save each piece back to Tape. You will probably get some
interference at the end of one and start of the next so it would be a good ides
to make each third of the project slightly larger than a third.....then when
the day comes where you can join them back together you will have three clips
that overlap giving you the necessary leeway needed when overlapping the edges
etc to get rid of the interference.
 
We're following this thread with interest. We decided to capture in 10
minute lots. Did three and everything was fine. After that machine crashed.
We have 100GB. The interesting thing is the first time we captured we were
able to do a whole hour without any problems. Did the editing and putting on
to DVD, deleted all relevant files, even did a defrag so everything was "nice
and clean" for the next lot of capturing. Unfortunately no end of problems.
We are about to ear our hair out in frustration. Is there anyone in
Auckland, New Zealand, who is following this who would be prepared to talk to
us about our problems?
 
Hello there,

You don't say why your machine crashed. or what the "no end of problems"
are.

I will take a guess and suggest it might be a code issue...One way a
codec issue reveals itself is Movie Maker closing down unexpectedly. Below
my sig is my standard reply for those with codec problems.

If I have guessed incorrectly can you give a fuller account of what
happens and what you were doing prior to the failure.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk

Hello there,

You sound as though you are suffering from a codec problem. There are two
root causes and below you will find the solution for each together with some
notes on other issues.

Option 1)

The one stop solution for that is a program called Rename Codecs and it is
available from my web site (Free). Make sure you check out the FAQ, on the
site, on what it does and how to run it (That will take about one minute of
your time!!) All the info you need is on the web site. The latest version is
1.51.

This reassuringly safe to use program requires no knowledge on your part
about what it is doing or how it is doing it or what it is doing it too!!!
neither do you need to know where any of these files are or whether it is
safe to rename them or not.....and best of all, ITS FREE !!!

Option 2)

If this does not solve your problem then try the following out...it has
proved to be a successful procedure for a variety of problems.

1) Download the full version of DirectX Ver 9.0b, Media Player 9 and Movie
Maker 2.

2) Reboot you computer and Install DirectX

3) Reboot again and install Windows Media Player 9

4) Reboot yet again and install Movie Maker 2

5) Reboot one more time

Yes it sounds very tedious, but if you want to be certain all file locks
are removed so that the correct files can be installed this is the way you
have to go.

It is very important that you only download the full versions of these
programs and that you DO NOT attempt an install over the internet.

Other Notes
===========
Graphic Card Acceleration
-------------------------

There is advice floating around that you should disable the graphics
acceleration abilities of your graphics card if Movie Maker locks up or
crashes out. Doing this is roughly equivalent to taking out your current
graphics card and replacing it with one that is several years old....this is
not the way forward!

The Graphics card on the machine I edit on is a cut above the average, it
has DV In & Out as well as Video In & Out. It does all sorts of clever
things and it is extremely fast. Then the day came when I tried Movie Maker
2 for the first time. It was a disaster. Knowing what the problem was I
immediately logged on to Microsoft and got the latest driver. There was no
change with the performance of the Graphics card with respect to Movie
Maker. After a lot of messing about I went to the cards manufacturer and
downloaded there most recent driver. I was convinced that the one from
Microsoft was in some way defective. It turned out that I was right but for
the wrong reason.

The version of the driver from Microsoft was more recent than the one on my
system AND more recent than the one from the OEM.BUT, the OEM had made minor
changes to how the card worked and these were not taken into consideration
by the Microsoft update!!!

So, do not get the generic update from Microsoft until you have tried the
latest driver from the manufacturer of your card.

Registration
------------

There is in my view some very bad advice floating around that tells you to
unregister the offending codec. If you take this advise be warned that
unregistering any file and doing it wrong will more than likely stop the
program that file belongs to from working all together and may in an extreme
situation cause your entire XP system to fail. This is true whether you make
a mistake using the Registry editor or the registration program itself, one
mistake and you are potentially in deep trouble. Whatever you unregister in
this manner has to be restored and you should take note that the
registration of a codec can often involve more than one registry entry. If
you are expert in these matters you will have no problem.

I have also found that MP3, Mpeg and Jpeg files can cause problems, So...

Convert all MP3 to WAV or WMA

Convert all MPeg to AVI

Convert all Jpeg to BMP

Video Conversion
----------------

For Video Conversion you should also check out the Knowledge Base Section
of my "Great Links > Knowledge Base" One of the website's in there called
"Video Help" has the best collection of useful information I have yet come
across on converting between the various formats together with links to the
software needed.

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
---
All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
Waitakere said:
We're following this thread with interest. We decided to capture in 10
minute lots. Did three and everything was fine. After that machine crashed.
We have 100GB. The interesting thing is the first time we captured we were
able to do a whole hour without any problems. Did the editing and putting on
to DVD, deleted all relevant files, even did a defrag so everything was "nice
and clean" for the next lot of capturing. Unfortunately no end of problems.
We are about to ear our hair out in frustration. Is there anyone in
Auckland, New Zealand, who is following this who would be prepared to talk to
us about our problems?
 
Unfortunately I don't know why it crashed. Our problems are we can't do any
more capturing. Thank you for your informative reply. Think we might check
our graphics card.

John Kelly said:
Hello there,

You don't say why your machine crashed. or what the "no end of problems"
are.

I will take a guess and suggest it might be a code issue...One way a
codec issue reveals itself is Movie Maker closing down unexpectedly. Below
my sig is my standard reply for those with codec problems.

If I have guessed incorrectly can you give a fuller account of what
happens and what you were doing prior to the failure.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk

Hello there,

You sound as though you are suffering from a codec problem. There are two
root causes and below you will find the solution for each together with some
notes on other issues.

Option 1)

The one stop solution for that is a program called Rename Codecs and it is
available from my web site (Free). Make sure you check out the FAQ, on the
site, on what it does and how to run it (That will take about one minute of
your time!!) All the info you need is on the web site. The latest version is
1.51.

This reassuringly safe to use program requires no knowledge on your part
about what it is doing or how it is doing it or what it is doing it too!!!
neither do you need to know where any of these files are or whether it is
safe to rename them or not.....and best of all, ITS FREE !!!

Option 2)

If this does not solve your problem then try the following out...it has
proved to be a successful procedure for a variety of problems.

1) Download the full version of DirectX Ver 9.0b, Media Player 9 and Movie
Maker 2.

2) Reboot you computer and Install DirectX

3) Reboot again and install Windows Media Player 9

4) Reboot yet again and install Movie Maker 2

5) Reboot one more time

Yes it sounds very tedious, but if you want to be certain all file locks
are removed so that the correct files can be installed this is the way you
have to go.

It is very important that you only download the full versions of these
programs and that you DO NOT attempt an install over the internet.

Other Notes
===========
Graphic Card Acceleration
-------------------------

There is advice floating around that you should disable the graphics
acceleration abilities of your graphics card if Movie Maker locks up or
crashes out. Doing this is roughly equivalent to taking out your current
graphics card and replacing it with one that is several years old....this is
not the way forward!

The Graphics card on the machine I edit on is a cut above the average, it
has DV In & Out as well as Video In & Out. It does all sorts of clever
things and it is extremely fast. Then the day came when I tried Movie Maker
2 for the first time. It was a disaster. Knowing what the problem was I
immediately logged on to Microsoft and got the latest driver. There was no
change with the performance of the Graphics card with respect to Movie
Maker. After a lot of messing about I went to the cards manufacturer and
downloaded there most recent driver. I was convinced that the one from
Microsoft was in some way defective. It turned out that I was right but for
the wrong reason.

The version of the driver from Microsoft was more recent than the one on my
system AND more recent than the one from the OEM.BUT, the OEM had made minor
changes to how the card worked and these were not taken into consideration
by the Microsoft update!!!

So, do not get the generic update from Microsoft until you have tried the
latest driver from the manufacturer of your card.

Registration
------------

There is in my view some very bad advice floating around that tells you to
unregister the offending codec. If you take this advise be warned that
unregistering any file and doing it wrong will more than likely stop the
program that file belongs to from working all together and may in an extreme
situation cause your entire XP system to fail. This is true whether you make
a mistake using the Registry editor or the registration program itself, one
mistake and you are potentially in deep trouble. Whatever you unregister in
this manner has to be restored and you should take note that the
registration of a codec can often involve more than one registry entry. If
you are expert in these matters you will have no problem.

I have also found that MP3, Mpeg and Jpeg files can cause problems, So...

Convert all MP3 to WAV or WMA

Convert all MPeg to AVI

Convert all Jpeg to BMP

Video Conversion
----------------

For Video Conversion you should also check out the Knowledge Base Section
of my "Great Links > Knowledge Base" One of the website's in there called
"Video Help" has the best collection of useful information I have yet come
across on converting between the various formats together with links to the
software needed.

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
---
All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
Waitakere said:
We're following this thread with interest. We decided to capture in 10
minute lots. Did three and everything was fine. After that machine crashed.
We have 100GB. The interesting thing is the first time we captured we were
able to do a whole hour without any problems. Did the editing and putting on
to DVD, deleted all relevant files, even did a defrag so everything was "nice
and clean" for the next lot of capturing. Unfortunately no end of problems.
We are about to ear our hair out in frustration. Is there anyone in
Auckland, New Zealand, who is following this who would be prepared to talk to
us about our problems?
 
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