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I've been at it for 5 hours trying to get Vista set-up with a printerand
access to my home network on my new Lenovo desktop. Little, if anything, I
have encountered thus far is intuative. I was able to get Internet Explorer7
to behave like 6 (i.e. have a menu bar rather than tabs and have a fully
visible set of icons). Still, much of the look and feel of IE 7 is sloppy
and childish. I don't understand the point of tabs, nor do I care. I'm
still not sure what I did to get my new computer to see my home network.
Several tries following the numerous prompts did not work, so I randomly
started changing things and succeeded. Vista was unable to recognize my
Lenovo flat panel correctly, it defaulted to 800x600. I was incorrect in
thinking it would recognize that the montior supported 1440 x 900. The
multiple levels of the "are you sure you want to do this?" each time you try
to change a setting are painful.

By comparison, I found installing and setting up Windows XP Professional,
Windows Me, SUSE Linux and dare I say Solaris 10 (loading from DVD or CD to a
formatted blank hard drive) easier than the pre-intalled version of Vista.
Everthing on Vista should as closely as possible default to an appearance and
behaviour like that of XP. Then, if one is interested in the "new and
improved" features one can go out and find them on their own. Microsoft
dropped the ball with Vista.
 
Actually, if you want Vista to be XP then what you really want is XP. Why
upgrade? Only so you can say you did?

Dale
 
XP_pro_lover said:
I've been at it for 5 hours trying to get Vista set-up with a printerand
access to my home network on my new Lenovo desktop. Little, if anything, I
have encountered thus far is intuative. I was able to get Internet Explorer7
to behave like 6 (i.e. have a menu bar rather than tabs and have a fully
visible set of icons). Still, much of the look and feel of IE 7 is sloppy
and childish. I don't understand the point of tabs, nor do I care. I'm
still not sure what I did to get my new computer to see my home network.
Several tries following the numerous prompts did not work, so I randomly
started changing things and succeeded. Vista was unable to recognize my
Lenovo flat panel correctly, it defaulted to 800x600. I was incorrect in
thinking it would recognize that the montior supported 1440 x 900. The
multiple levels of the "are you sure you want to do this?" each time you try
to change a setting are painful.

By comparison, I found installing and setting up Windows XP Professional,
Windows Me, SUSE Linux and dare I say Solaris 10 (loading from DVD or CD to a
formatted blank hard drive) easier than the pre-intalled version of Vista.
Everthing on Vista should as closely as possible default to an appearance and
behaviour like that of XP. Then, if one is interested in the "new and
improved" features one can go out and find them on their own. Microsoft
dropped the ball with Vista.

Wow, not very encouraging. Maybe Next time.

Alias
 
It's no big surprise that your disappointed, trying to get your network
going by randomly changing things is a good indication of your level of
expertise. Vista is a new OS, it's not going to work perfectly on every PC
without tweaking.
 
The only real disappointment I have with Vista is that the start menu is
cluttered and just about unreadable when trying to find programs in it, and
the fact that my computer refuses to stay sleeping when I command it to do
so. Other than that, I've liked IE 7 and it's tabs since beta of it, the
tabs are very usefull so that I don't have to move my mouse down to the
start bar to switch to another open IE window.

Vista did have problems installing on my computer too. The first attempt
caused a BSOD, before it really got far into the installation, but the
second time worked flawlessly.

I do agree that things do seem less intuitive though Im sure that because
I've been working with XP for a few years now, that may be a bit of the
cause of less intuitiveness. Because Im used to the way that XP works, so
give me some time and Im sure I'll see the intuitiveness in vista as well.
 
XP_pro_lover said:
I've been at it for 5 hours trying to get Vista set-up with a printerand
access to my home network on my new Lenovo desktop. Little, if anything, I
have encountered thus far is intuative. I was able to get Internet Explorer7
to behave like 6 (i.e. have a menu bar rather than tabs and have a fully
visible set of icons). Still, much of the look and feel of IE 7 is sloppy
and childish. I don't understand the point of tabs, nor do I care. I'm
still not sure what I did to get my new computer to see my home network.
Several tries following the numerous prompts did not work, so I randomly
started changing things and succeeded. Vista was unable to recognize my
Lenovo flat panel correctly, it defaulted to 800x600. I was incorrect in
thinking it would recognize that the montior supported 1440 x 900. The
multiple levels of the "are you sure you want to do this?" each time you try
to change a setting are painful.

By comparison, I found installing and setting up Windows XP Professional,
Windows Me, SUSE Linux and dare I say Solaris 10 (loading from DVD or CD to a
formatted blank hard drive) easier than the pre-intalled version of Vista.
Everthing on Vista should as closely as possible default to an appearance and
behaviour like that of XP. Then, if one is interested in the "new and
improved" features one can go out and find them on their own. Microsoft
dropped the ball with Vista.

Everyone said you should have gotten a Mac, now you know why! Macs are
by far cheaper in the long run, for the main reason they WORK, and are
quite a bit more powerful than any Windows based PC.

Give them a try, you'll see why everyone is switching over.

http://www.apple.com/getamac/
 
Everyone said you should have gotten a Mac, now you know why! Macs are
by far cheaper in the long run, for the main reason they WORK

Entirely subjective. My Windows PC runs all the time without problems.
are quite a bit more powerful than any Windows based PC.

Testable claim and proven false. On the same hardware (Mac hardware)
Windows performs better than Mac OS.
Give them a try, you'll see why everyone is switching over.

I'm still waiting for Apple to have open discussion groups where threads
critical of Apple don't get locked and deleted.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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XP_pro_lover said:
I've been at it for 5 hours trying to get Vista set-up with a printerand
access to my home network on my new Lenovo desktop. Little, if anything,
I
have encountered thus far is intuative. I was able to get Internet
Explorer7
to behave like 6 (i.e. have a menu bar rather than tabs and have a fully
visible set of icons). Still, much of the look and feel of IE 7 is sloppy
and childish. I don't understand the point of tabs, nor do I care. I'm
still not sure what I did to get my new computer to see my home network.
Several tries following the numerous prompts did not work, so I randomly
started changing things and succeeded. Vista was unable to recognize my
Lenovo flat panel correctly, it defaulted to 800x600. I was incorrect in
thinking it would recognize that the montior supported 1440 x 900. The
multiple levels of the "are you sure you want to do this?" each time you
try
to change a setting are painful.

By comparison, I found installing and setting up Windows XP Professional,
Windows Me, SUSE Linux and dare I say Solaris 10 (loading from DVD or CD
to a
formatted blank hard drive) easier than the pre-intalled version of Vista.
Everthing on Vista should as closely as possible default to an appearance
and
behaviour like that of XP. Then, if one is interested in the "new and
improved" features one can go out and find them on their own. Microsoft
dropped the ball with Vista.

Once you use Vista for a week or two and become comfortable with it, see if
you still long for a return to XP. Once you get use to the changes I
suspect you will be like several others, there is no going back.

If getting your printer set-up was problematic I suspect that falls on your
printer manufacturer releasing Vista compatible drivers it is not a fault
with Vista. As for networking I have connected to at least 8 different
wireless networks, three wired networks an Aircard connection and all have
been simple. Every other web browser around has had tabbed browsing for ages
so why you would want to go back to non-tabbed IE 6 is beyond me.

If you wanted to stay with XP, why buy a Vista machine? Win Me, Suse and
Solaris hardly look like XP either so why should Vista? Again I suspect
that your views may change after you have used Vista for a few weeks and
become comfortable with it.
 
The implicit claim that there's nothing geeky about a MAC is amusing.
I like the counselor spot - "Maybe you should come in twice a week."
 
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