disappointed w/ AVAST, back to mcafee?

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Bradley

When the 1 yr license on my Mcafee Pro 7.xx went dry, I uninstalled
and put AVAST in its place. Just updated to most recent defs
yesterday. Found it would not detect the trojan Backdoor-AZV.gen,
even though mcafee states that its defs have been detecting it pretty
far back (versions not in front of me now).

This leaves me questionning the value of the free AVAST and rethinking
the $20 or whatever it is to activate mcafee for another year.

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Bradley
 
Bradley said:
When the 1 yr license on my Mcafee Pro 7.xx went dry, I uninstalled
and put AVAST in its place. Just updated to most recent defs
yesterday. Found it would not detect the trojan Backdoor-AZV.gen,
even though mcafee states that its defs have been detecting it pretty
far back (versions not in front of me now).

This leaves me questionning the value of the free AVAST and rethinking
the $20 or whatever it is to activate mcafee for another year.

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Bradley
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I know there will be some people who will argue this but USE NORTON
ANTIVIRUS!
 
Bradley said:
When the 1 yr license on my Mcafee Pro 7.xx went dry, I uninstalled
and put AVAST in its place. Just updated to most recent defs
yesterday. Found it would not detect the trojan Backdoor-AZV.gen,
even though mcafee states that its defs have been detecting it pretty
far back (versions not in front of me now).

This leaves me questionning the value of the free AVAST and rethinking
the $20 or whatever it is to activate mcafee for another year.

Any thoughts?
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Use Avast as a second-opinion, scanner only. While you're at it, get
AntiVir and AVG as second-opinion scanners as well.

For primary monitor, Get Kaspersky. Get the "lite" edition (same scanner and
monitor as the top of the line).
 
Well what can I say, every one is telling you what to do. I guess you can do
that but why not before you spend money just take a look around and check a
few of the free trials out. NOD32 has a free trial and that can be
impressive if you have never used it. but at least take a look around at the
other products and then make up your own mind what suites your needs. Lurk
here on the side during the trials of and you will soon get an idea of
what's hot and what's not
 
Bradley said:
When the 1 yr license on my Mcafee Pro 7.xx went dry, I uninstalled
and put AVAST in its place. Just updated to most recent defs
yesterday. Found it would not detect the trojan Backdoor-AZV.gen,
even though mcafee states that its defs have been detecting it pretty
far back (versions not in front of me now).

This leaves me questionning the value of the free AVAST and rethinking
the $20 or whatever it is to activate mcafee for another year.

Any thoughts?
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I use AVG6 Free for my active AV, and F-Prot for DOS as my on-demand backup
AV. They work for me.

Jan :)
 
The only virus I ever had was when I was using McAfee. I think all
AV's have missed a virus at one time or another. Probably a good
argument for using two AVs, one active and one manual. NOD32 has the
best VB 100 record, followed by Norton. But Norton has implemented
product activation, so unless you only use one computer, be prepared
to buy multiple copies. I am using NOD32 as the active AV and Avast as
an outgoing E-Mail scanner and manual AV.

Regards, hawk
 
hawk said:
The only virus I ever had was when I was using McAfee. I think all
AV's have missed a virus at one time or another. Probably a good
argument for using two AVs, one active and one manual. NOD32 has the
best VB 100 record, followed by Norton. But Norton has implemented
product activation, so unless you only use one computer, be prepared
to buy multiple copies. I am using NOD32 as the active AV and Avast as
an outgoing E-Mail scanner and manual AV.
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The only virus I ever actually contracted was in October, 2000 - a week
before Norton upgraded its virus definitions for that particular virus. We
have to understand that happening, but I was disappointed to do web
searching at the time and find that the particular virus was known to be in
the wild about a month before I contracted it. Regardless, it was my fault
for having executed the email attachment.

BTW, I have been using Avast on my home computers for awhile - very
frequently updated, and detects any email virus I've received and tested
against it. I use the free DOS F-Prot for my on-demand second line of
defense. On one machine, I have very recently installed the new version of
EZ Armor Suite for a trial run (free for RoadRunner subscribers).
 
Bradley said:
When the 1 yr license on my Mcafee Pro 7.xx went dry, I uninstalled
and put AVAST in its place. Just updated to most recent defs
yesterday. Found it would not detect the trojan Backdoor-AZV.gen,
even though mcafee states that its defs have been detecting it pretty
far back (versions not in front of me now).
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How did you know the file was Backdoor-AZV.gen if it couldn't be
detected? Might you already have a sample of it? If you do, test other
AV programs with it.

Netuser 58
 
Tom McCune said:
The only virus I ever actually contracted was in October, 2000 - a week
before Norton upgraded its virus definitions for that particular virus. We
have to understand that happening, but I was disappointed to do web
searching at the time and find that the particular virus was known to be in
the wild about a month before I contracted it. Regardless, it was my fault
for having executed the email attachment.
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This is not accurate. Please document. Which virus, what date were the
definitions? You indicate that Norton was at least 5 weeks behind in its
definitions. Like them or not, that's is unlikely.

BTW- if its not documented, it didn't happen.
 
This is not accurate. Please document. Which virus, what date were the
definitions? You indicate that Norton was at least 5 weeks behind in
its definitions. Like them or not, that's is unlikely.

BTW- if its not documented, it didn't happen.
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Before you foolishly call someone a liar again, I suggest you do some
basic research:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=01c040ab%
24963c66a0%240500000a%40nick&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dalt.comp.virus%
2520McCune%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg>
 
Tom McCune said:
Before you foolishly call someone a liar again, I suggest you do some
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First look below:


You Lying ****ing shit!


That was an example of calling someone a liar. Its NOT what I did. And no, I
won't do ' basic research ' before asking for proof of anything.

Your assertation was that NAV was at least 5 weeks behind in defs through no
fault of your own and resulted in your virus infection. I don't believe this
to be true. You need to provide the name of virus, the date of infection and
the date of the virus definitions you had in place.

Sense you apparently can't offer any evidence other that a 'googling' I'll
assume I was correct. The only bit that be gleaned from your search is that
you're infection was Hybris and happened sometime prior to 10/27/2000, but
definitely NOT a week before Norton's definition were updated to detect
Hybris. NAV detected Hybris as of 9/25/2000.
Your virus definitions were out of date. And why the hell would you decide
you should run the 'sexy virgin' executable from a 'Snow White And the Seven
Dwarves' Email?

Since we enjoy 'googling', we can do a little more and find that in NOV of
2000 (you know, the month right AFTER OCT 2000. when supposedly you were
infected with up to date defintions ) YOU decided to remove mcafee on your
older computer and install NAV 2000 on it.
 
ImhoTech said:
...And why the hell would you decide
you should run the 'sexy virgin' executable from a 'Snow White And the Seven
Dwarves' Email?
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To find out what the huge surprise was of course. Inquiring
minds want to know. I'm still wondering about that myself
after all of these years.
 
FromTheRafters said:
To find out what the huge surprise was of course. Inquiring
minds want to know. I'm still wondering about that myself
after all of these years.
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Me too, just in general, not specifically in Tom's case, in the 'peak'
Hybris period I was seeing these machines daily from an amazing assortment
of people. Blue haired little old ladies, 'pillars' of the church, the
'social engineering' to me has always been more impressive than the actual
virus or worm code.
 
ImhoTech said:
Me too, just in general, not specifically in Tom's case, in the 'peak'
Hybris period I was seeing these machines daily from an amazing assortment
of people. Blue haired little old ladies, 'pillars' of the church, the
'social engineering' to me has always been more impressive than the actual
virus or worm code.
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To me, it was less the con job and more the plug-in aspect that
I found interesting. Vecna is a talented coder, but I disagree with
the cyber-terrorist methods on general principle.
 
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