Difference between Canon ip5300 and ip4500 ??

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The ip4300 seems to have replaced the ip5300, and is cheaper. As there are
still ip5300s for sale, I was wondering how they differ?

The specs look pretty similar on the Canon site, and they look pretty
similar too, from the pictures I have seen on the web. Are they basically
the same? Do they take the same cartridges?

I heard that the ip5300 has an IR interface. What is that for, and does the
ip4500 have this too?

Cheers

ss.
 
Synapse Syndrome said:
The ip4300 seems to have replaced the ip5300, and is cheaper. As there
are still ip5300s for sale, I was wondering how they differ?

The specs look pretty similar on the Canon site, and they look pretty
similar too, from the pictures I have seen on the web. Are they basically
the same? Do they take the same cartridges?

I heard that the ip5300 has an IR interface. What is that for, and does
the ip4500 have this too?

Cheers

ss.

All the features are readily available at the Canon site. The main
difference in the IP4500 and related newer MF models is in the print head.
It has more nozzles for slightly finer resolutions and slightly faster
speeds.
 
DanG said:
All the features are readily available at the Canon site. The main
difference in the IP4500 and related newer MF models is in the print head.
It has more nozzles for slightly finer resolutions and slightly faster
speeds.

Thanks for your answer, but I did look at the Canon site, and the specs
appear to be very similar in that regard, hence my question.

PIXMA iP5300
Print Resolution Up to 9600 x 2400 dpi
Print Engine InkJet 5-ink with 1 pl Micro-Nozzles & FINE
print head
Mono Print Speed Up to 31ppm (Max.), 14.8ppm (Standard)
Colour Print Speed Text & Graphics: Up to 24ppm (Max.), 11.6ppm (Standard)

PIXMA iP4500
Print Resolution Up to 9600 x 2400 dpi
Print Engine InkJet 5-ink with minimum 1 pl Micro-Nozzles
& FINE print head
Mono Print Speed Up to 31ppm (max.), 14.9ppm (Standard)
Colour Print Speed Text & Graphics: Up to 24ppm (Max.), 11.7ppm (Standard)


That really is a tiny speed increase.


ss.
 
Synapse Syndrome wrote:

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The specs look pretty similar on the Canon site, and they look pretty similar too, from the pictures I have seen on the web.



All the features are readily available at the Canon site. The main difference in the IP4500 and related newer MF models is in the print head. It has more nozzles for slightly finer resolutions and slightly faster speeds.



Thanks for your answer, but I did look at the Canon site, and the specs appear to be very similar in that regard, hence my question. PIXMA iP5300 Print Resolution Up to 9600 x 2400 dpi Print Engine InkJet 5-ink with 1 pl Micro-Nozzles & FINE print head Mono Print Speed Up to 31ppm (Max.), 14.8ppm (Standard) Colour Print Speed Text & Graphics: Up to 24ppm (Max.), 11.6ppm (Standard) PIXMA iP4500 Print Resolution Up to 9600 x 2400 dpi Print Engine InkJet 5-ink with minimum 1 pl Micro-Nozzles & FINE print head Mono Print Speed Up to 31ppm (max.), 14.9ppm (Standard) Colour Print Speed Text & Graphics: Up to 24ppm (Max.), 11.7ppm (Standard) That really is a tiny speed increase. ss.

I have never seen an IP5300.  In the US I have just seen the IP4500.  Maybe the IP5300 is not an American Model.
 
Synapse said:
The ip4300 seems to have replaced the ip5300, and is cheaper. As there are
still ip5300s for sale, I was wondering how they differ?

The specs look pretty similar on the Canon site, and they look pretty
similar too, from the pictures I have seen on the web. Are they basically
the same? Do they take the same cartridges?

I heard that the ip5300 has an IR interface. What is that for, and does the
ip4500 have this too?

Cheers

ss.
Interesting! I ran into the same thing with the HP C4180 and HP C4150
printers. I have one of each and they are identical, specs are the same
etc. as far as I can tell, except that I paid about $10 more for the
HP4180. Bought them about a year apart.

I posted a note similar to yours in a couple of places and got several
answers (even one from an HP employee) indicating that there were no
differences - just a manufacturers whim!! Both are great printers!!

BJ
 
watson6918 said:
Interesting! I ran into the same thing with the HP C4180 and HP C4150
printers. I have one of each and they are identical, specs are the same
etc. as far as I can tell, except that I paid about $10 more for the
HP4180. Bought them about a year apart.

I posted a note similar to yours in a couple of places and got several
answers (even one from an HP employee) indicating that there were no
differences - just a manufacturers whim!! Both are great printers!!

BJ

One of the things I've been told is that HP < and other manufacturers
will change the model number because of a difference in included
hardware, and/or the particular model is sold only through a
particular retailer. Say < example only > a HP 930 could only be had
from Microcenter and an HP 932 could only be had from Walmart and one
might come with a software package that the other doesn't.

Otherwise the HP 930 and the HP 932 are exactly the same.

Bill
 
Bill said:
One of the things I've been told is that HP < and other manufacturers
hardware, and/or the particular model is sold only through a
particular retailer. Say < example only > a HP 930 could only be had
from Microcenter and an HP 932 could only be had from Walmart and one
might come with a software package that the other doesn't.

Otherwise the HP 930 and the HP 932 are exactly the same.

Bill
Could very well be the case with mine - since I bought one from Office
Depot and the other from Sam's.

BJ
 
One of the things I've been told is that HP < and other manufacturers
hardware, and/or the particular model is sold only through a
particular retailer. Say < example only > a HP 930 could only be had
from Microcenter and an HP 932 could only be had from Walmart and one
might come with a software package that the other doesn't.

Otherwise the HP 930 and the HP 932 are exactly the same.

It was my understanding that the xx0/xx2 difference related solely to the length
of warranty.
 
Thanks for your answer, but I did look at the Canon site, and the specs
appear to be very similar in that regard, hence my question.

PIXMA iP5300
Print Resolution      Up to 9600 x 2400 dpi
Print Engine      InkJet 5-ink with 1 pl Micro-Nozzles & FINE
print head
Mono Print Speed  Up to 31ppm (Max.), 14.8ppm (Standard)
Colour Print Speed  Text & Graphics: Up to 24ppm (Max.), 11.6ppm (Standard)

PIXMA iP4500
Print Resolution      Up to 9600 x 2400 dpi
Print Engine      InkJet 5-ink with minimum 1 pl Micro-Nozzles
& FINE print head
Mono Print Speed  Up to 31ppm (max.), 14.9ppm (Standard)
Colour Print Speed  Text & Graphics: Up to 24ppm (Max.), 11.7ppm (Standard)

That really is a tiny speed increase.

ss.

Imho, the iP4500 and iP5300 share the same technical specs with
respect to the print engine itself. However, other features are
unique to each model.

The Canon Pixma inkjet photo printers that used individual colour
cartridges were produced in the following series. However, I've
exclude the multi-function MP series (e.g. MP780, MP830, etc.), which
share some of the same print engines. I've tried to arrange them
somewhat vertically by their "equivalent" replacement model as well.
One interesting thing you should notice: any year's iP5x00 model
introduced a new print engine, which made it into the subsequent
year's iP4x00 model. I've include the resolution and number of
printhead nozzles in parentheses after the model number. Note that
the first Pixma's (first line in the chart) were also the last Pixmas
to use the BCI-3 / BCI-6 unchipped cartridges. All of the subsequent
series required the PGI-5 / CLI-8 chipped cartridges.

iP3000 (4800/4/1600) / iP4000*(4800/5/1856) / iP5000 (9600/5/1856) /
iP6000D (4800/6/1536) / iP8500 (4800/8/6144);
/ iP4200 (9600/5/1856) /
iP5200*(9600/5/3584) / iP6600D (9600/6/3072);
iP3300 (4800/4/1600) / iP4300 (9600/5/3584) / iP5300 (9600/5/4608) /
iP6700D (9600/6/3072);
iP3500 (4800/4/1600) / iP4500 (9600/5/4608);

*Note: the iP4000 and iP5200 were also available in a WiFi/Ethernet
model (iP4000R / iP5200R).

Except for the iP3300/iP3500, all of the above models can print on
printable CD/DVD media. However, if these models were sold in North
America (Canada/USA), the CD/DVD printing option was disabled and the
CD Label-Print software was not included. Note though, that these
North American models can be modified to print on CD/DVD (see
http://pixma-faq.periastron.com). I have modified 3 iP5000's and 2
iP5200's in my family with the proper CD tray, tray rollers (iP5000),
and CD Label Print software. After a bit of simple printer firmware
reprogramming using the buttons on the printer, and voila...they all
print beautiful CD/DVD's. The parts came from Canon Europe, and the
software is available online.

There are the following exceptions to the above:
1. None of the iP3300/iP3500's can print on CD/DVD's.
2. There is no mention of the iP5300 at the US site, so I don't
believe it was available there, but it definitely was available
everywhere else, including Canada.
3. The iP4300/5300/6700D series sold in Canada came equipped to print
on CD/DVD's, just like the rest of the world (again, except for the
US, where it was still disabled). I have two of the Canadian iP5300's
(I live in Ottawa, Ontario), and they were purchased CD/DVD print
ready (see http://www.canon.ca).

For some reason, the newest iP4500 has CD/DVD printing disabled in
Canada once again, just like the US. So if you can still find a new
Canadian iP5300 (and there are still some out there), get it.

Phineas
 
For some reason, the newest iP4500 has CD/DVD printing disabled in
Canada once again, just like the US. So if you can still find a new
Canadian iP5300 (and there are still some out there), get it.


Thanks for the information. So if the iP5300 does use the same print head
and cartridges of the iP4500, maybe I should have got one of those instead,
as it seems to have an infra-red interface, which the iP4500 lacks. Not a
big deal though, as I would have only wanted that to experiment with, and
the iP4500 looks a little nicer anyway.

I live in the UK, so I got the CD printing ability as standard.

Cheers

ss.
 
For some reason, the newest iP4500 has CD/DVD printing disabled in
Canada once again, just like the US. So if you can still find a new
Canadian iP5300 (and there are still some out there), get it.

Seeing I'm getting conflicting reports on this, I noticed Staples in
Canada was offering the iP4500 on sale for $130. These came with CD/DVD
printing function enabled (with the tray) so I went out and grabbed one.

I had already enabled, a year or so ago, my older iP4000 to print on
CD/DVDs. But I wanted the luxury of a second printer capable of this
function.

-Taliesyn
 
Seeing I'm getting conflicting reports on this, I noticed Staples in
Canada was offering the iP4500 on sale for $130.  These came with CD/DVD
printing function enabled (with the tray) so I went out and grabbed one.

I had already enabled, a year or so ago, my older iP4000 to print on
CD/DVDs. But I wanted the luxury of a second printer capable of this
function.

-Taliesyn

You're right. Canon Canada (www.canon.ca) just doesn't mention CD/DVD
printing as being available on the iP4500, but I checked one out at
the local Staples, and it does have the CD/DVD printing feature. Good
Stuff!!!

I suspect they just copied the specs from the USA site...

Phineas
 
You're right. Canon Canada (www.canon.ca) just doesn't mention CD/DVD
printing as being available on the iP4500, but I checked one out at
the local Staples, and it does have the CD/DVD printing feature. Good
Stuff!!!

I suspect they just copied the specs from the USA site...

Phineas

Or perhaps desperate US citizens for CD/DVD capability were
buying/ordering their printers from Canada, and Canon USA asked
Canon Canada to not advertise this workaround for Americans... ;-)

-Taliesyn
 
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